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B/R's Super-Early Top 25

1. Michigan State
2. Virginia
3. Kentucky
4. Michigan
T-5. Duke
T-5. Gonzaga
7. Villanova
8. Louisville
9. Auburn
T-10. Arizona
T-10. Ohio State
12. USC
13. Marquette
14. North Carolina
15. Maryland
16. North Carolina State
17. Iowa
T-18. Florida State
T-18. Texas Tech
20. VCU
21. Tennessee
22. Indiana
T-23. Florida
T-23. Oregon
25. Texas
 
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I couldn't agree more.....
What I'm waiting on is how soon someone turns it into a dig on the Boilers.
;)
 
Bippy said:
B/R's Super-Early Top 25

1. Michigan State
2. Virginia
3. Kentucky
4. Michigan
T-5. Duke
T-5. Gonzaga
7. Villanova
8. Louisville
9. Auburn
T-10. Arizona
T-10. Ohio State
12. USC
13. Marquette
14. North Carolina
15. Maryland
16. North Carolina State
17. Iowa
T-18. Florida State
T-18. Texas Tech
20. VCU
21. Tennessee
22. Indiana
T-23. Florida
T-23. Oregon
25. Texas
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Boom!!!!! I just raised my expectations big time!
 
The goal of college is to prepare you for your profession. When college basketball athletes go pro, they make more money in one contract than many college grads will make in a lifetime of hard everyday work. Leaving early means college has prepared them for their profession whether it is 1, 2, 3, or 4 years. Today if you are a 4 year college player, then you probably do not have the elite talent to play in the NBA or you are a fringe professional prospect, or you are a late bloomer. The NBA takes the elite talent as soon as they can, regardless of their development. This isn't the 1970s any more. The College basketball talent pool is weaker and more diluted than in the past. And in my opinion not as much fun to watch, and it will get weaker when the one and done rule changes. The most elite HS players will never play College basketball in the future when the NBA early entry rule changes.
 
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We have 3 open scholarships and most of that list will have people coming and going over the next month. i don't see how anyone could predict a top 25 with any accuracy. No love for Purdue, or did they just forget they existed?
 
ufo33 said:
The goal of college is to prepare you for your profession. When college basketball athletes go pro, they make more money in one contract than many college grads will make in a lifetime of hard everyday work. Leaving early means college has prepared them for their profession whether it is 1, 2, 3, or 4 years. Today if you are a 4 year college player, then you probably do not have the elite talent to play in the NBA or you are a fringe professional prospect, or you are a late bloomer. The NBA takes the elite talent as soon as they can, regardless of their development. This isn't the 1970s any more. The College basketball talent pool is weaker and more diluted than in the past. And in my opinion not as much fun to watch, and it will get weaker when the one and done rule changes. The most elite HS players will never play College basketball in the future when the NBA early entry rule changes.
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I don't completely agree. The goal of college is to do two things: Prepare you for a career that requires or is greatly enhanced by a degree; and to educate you to be a more complete citizen. Neither of those things is accomplished by spending a year in college while waiting to play professional basketball

An NBA basketball player doesn't need to attend a 4-year university any more than a plumber or a carpenter. Playing basketball is a trade as much as it is a profession. Having said that, I don't blame the NBA. The league is getting a free farm system. Good for the NBA if universities are willing to supply that free service. What is shameful is the way universities encourage athletes to be shadow students at best by tolerating a system that mostly removes them from the true university experience and isolates them from the student body at large.

There was a time not so long ago when that wasn't the case. There are easy ways to remedy the situation, but there is no will to do so. Television dollars have made college sports as much professional leagues as the NBA and the NFL. The difference is that in college sports, only the coaches and administrators get paid. Players essentially receive room and board, a small stipend, and a few other perks. Their free tuition is of value to some, but for many their exposure to a real education is so limited as to render that benefit of minor value.
 
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ufo33 said:
The goal of college is to prepare you for your profession. When college basketball athletes go pro, they make more money in one contract than many college grads will make in a lifetime of hard everyday work. Leaving early means college has prepared them for their profession whether it is 1, 2, 3, or 4 years. Today if you are a 4 year college player, then you probably do not have the elite talent to play in the NBA or you are a fringe professional prospect, or you are a late bloomer. The NBA takes the elite talent as soon as they can, regardless of their development. This isn't the 1970s any more. The College basketball talent pool is weaker and more diluted than in the past. And in my opinion not as much fun to watch, and it will get weaker when the one and done rule changes. The most elite HS players will never play College basketball in the future when the NBA early entry rule changes.
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Bippy said:
B/R's Super-Early Top 25

1. Michigan State
2. Virginia
3. Kentucky
4. Michigan
T-5. Duke
T-5. Gonzaga
7. Villanova
8. Louisville
9. Auburn
T-10. Arizona
T-10. Ohio State
12. USC
13. Marquette
14. North Carolina
15. Maryland
16. North Carolina State
17. Iowa
T-18. Florida State
T-18. Texas Tech
20. VCU
21. Tennessee
22. Indiana
T-23. Florida
T-23. Oregon
25. Texas
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Who is BR? Not that it matters that much! The important thing is that Indiana has now turned it around. And if the Hoosiers get a couple of quality transfers that should easily vault the Hoosiers into a top 20 program. Happy days are here again!
 
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hoosierraven said:
It is way too early to make these predictions with any sense of accuracy. Just about every day more players are announcing for the NBA Draft. Those that don't make the draft may likely go elsewhere to play.
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Yes, way too early. Who knows about Hunter? Who else leaves, gets in trouble, transfers in? The media knows this and publishes this stuff just to publish something.
 
Bippy said:
B/R's Super-Early Top 25

1. Michigan State
2. Virginia
3. Kentucky
4. Michigan
T-5. Duke
T-5. Gonzaga
7. Villanova
8. Louisville
9. Auburn
T-10. Arizona
T-10. Ohio State
12. USC
13. Marquette
14. North Carolina
15. Maryland
16. North Carolina State
17. Iowa
T-18. Florida State
T-18. Texas Tech
20. VCU
21. Tennessee
22. Indiana
T-23. Florida
T-23. Oregon
25. Texas
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“Louisville well-represented in early top 25 rankings for 2019-20.”

How does this happen so fast to a team that has gone through so much controversy?

CBS #7
247 Sports #9
NCAA.com #9
The Sporting News #11
ESPN #15
Sports Illustrated #16
SB Nation #16
The Athletic #17
USA Today #18

https://www.cardchronicle.com/2019/...resented-in-early-top-25-rankings-for-2019-20
 
IULouie said:
“Louisville well-represented in early top 25 rankings for 2019-20.”

How does this happen so fast to a team that has gone through so much controversy?

CBS #7
247 Sports #9
NCAA.com #9
The Sporting News #11
ESPN #15
Sports Illustrated #16
SB Nation #16
The Athletic #17
USA Today #18

https://www.cardchronicle.com/2019/...resented-in-early-top-25-rankings-for-2019-20

Because all they care about is selling copy. How accurate it is pretty unimportant.
We all clicked on it didn't we?
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Same scenario as above. Would you rather beat them during the season and not make the tournament or lose to them during the season and make the tournament? How did they make the tournament? What’s Chris Mack doing that we’re not?
 
Bippy said:
B/R's Super-Early Top 25

1. Michigan State
2. Virginia
3. Kentucky
4. Michigan
T-5. Duke
T-5. Gonzaga
7. Villanova
8. Louisville
9. Auburn
T-10. Arizona
T-10. Ohio State
12. USC
13. Marquette
14. North Carolina
15. Maryland
16. North Carolina State
17. Iowa
T-18. Florida State
T-18. Texas Tech
20. VCU
21. Tennessee
22. Indiana
T-23. Florida
T-23. Oregon
25. Texas
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I thought Penny had Memphis in the Top 10 by now? a recruiting class "for the ages" etc....hmm
 
oldcougar77 said:
Would you rather play with the players Pitino left for Mack, or the players Crean left for Archie ?

And still we beat them in one of the few games we had a semi-healthy roster.
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But, hey, it doesn’t have a damn bit to do with coaching . . . :rolleyes:
 
Pitino left a lot of solid recruits who didn't leave and Mack was already recruiting similar players to those he wanted to bring in?

IULouie said:
“Louisville well-represented in early top 25 rankings for 2019-20.”

How does this happen so fast to a team that has gone through so much controversy?

CBS #7
247 Sports #9
NCAA.com #9
The Sporting News #11
ESPN #15
Sports Illustrated #16
SB Nation #16
The Athletic #17
USA Today #18

https://www.cardchronicle.com/2019/...resented-in-early-top-25-rankings-for-2019-20
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See above post. He had a ready made roster and was already recruiting the same kids. If you wanted Archie to bring the same talent he was in Dayton or to totally remake our roster in 1 recruiting class, you are intentionally not seeing the forest for the trees. Pitino was, for reasons, a much better recruiter than Crean, or will we argue on that, too?


IULouie said:
Same scenario as above. Would you rather beat them during the season and not make the tournament or lose to them during the season and make the tournament? How did they make the tournament? What’s Chris Mack doing that we’re not?
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IULouie said:
Same scenario as above. Would you rather beat them during the season and not make the tournament or lose to them during the season and make the tournament? How did they make the tournament? What’s Chris Mack doing that we’re not?
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too many variables go into one season to really answer that but we'll know more about this if Mack continues to make tourneys and Archie does not...
 
Only two or 3 players played for Pitino - and one was VJ King who played sparingly...
 
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