I’d be more interested in seeing you apply your intellect to presenting an argument in favor of some issue based on The values of your opponent.
Did R.E. Lee Commit Treason?
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In the general “social” sense, yes. In the “legal” sense, it’s maybe “not so much.”
On the whole, I agree that letting him go saved thousands of lives, as did his comments that the remaining armies of the Confederacy needed to be surrendered too.
Is anyone actually making that argument? Or are we just saying the 1619 story should be told?
Why the concern about "ranking" these different stories? Shouldn't all these stories, POVs, and historical lenses be explored equally?
Can anyone dispute that we're dealing with the legacy of slavery to this day? Why would we not want to better understand how that has played out since the settlement of British North America?
That last part about the "projects". Do you really contend that those events are based on our values and agenda and don't stand the test of time?
I don’t know what “the legacy” of slavery is. But I do know and understand people will use the phrase “legacy of slavery” to explain the disgrace of poor black education, criminality, and general under performance. I don’t buy that. There are too many other intervening causes. Efforts like the 1619 Project and the concept of our Original Sin is not as much about history as it a way to avoid discussion of why African American young men kill each other.
Wow. This is gonna age like milk.
You are calling a large percentage of our population non-serious thinkers.
I was talking about COH ranking them in terms of importance. In other words, I might think one is more important than you.
Because I can’t wait for the COH’s (or anyone else’s) explanation for “poor black education, criminality, and general underperformance.”
He did but you were too busy being upset to pay attention. I could list some more reasons but you wouldn't like them
I saw statements, no explanations.
I’ll bet a dollar against a donut that he wouldn’t sign his name to that post.
You been hanging out with Cloverdales tonight? You make about as much sense as he does. Seems like he pretty much did sign his name to it and he is right
Lack of both biological parents raising their kids under the same roof.
Everything else is a distant 2nd.
You have the cart before the horse.
Single parent homes lead to poverty.
1. Graduate high school
2. Don’t have kids before you’re married and have a job
3. Stay married
This works 98% of the time.
Agree with all of those things. The starting block for blacks late to the economic party, no inter generational transfer of wealth, and density put them in quick sand tho. We've had poor urban planning for decades. Only the last 20 plus years has it improved
Your first 2 statements put them behind the 8 ball. Once Johnny taxpayer was substituted for father then the ability to get out from behind the 8 ball became damn near impossible.
So promote those intervening causes instead of denigrating the historical record that's being put forward.
I’m more concerned that he doesn’t find the phrase “black criminality” troubling.
It would imply that the black community has some innate criminality component.
Likes are everything.
You haven’t been paying attention in the Co.H. School of Advanced Concervative Studues.
First I don’t denigrate history. Second, I’ve commented on the intervening causes, oh, maybe eleventy thousand times since the new year.
Poverty creates criminality
The failure of liberals to recognize this and change their policies has condemned millions and generations to poverty - and the criminality that goes with it.
The liberal’s greatest fear is a young married black father with a degree and a goob job.
No. I don’t denigrate history. I denigrate and object to the 1619 Project on many levels. Mostly, as many historians have said, it’s simply wrong history. Moreover, it furthers the notion that skin color is density. Finally it’s a scam where Hannah-Jones (Like Kendi and Di Angelo) exploits racial conflict for personal gain of power, influence, and wealth.
Then the phrase should be “poor criminality” and not “black criminality.”
There are many people from poor communities who aren’t criminals. But when you look at the smash and grab and shoplifting videos, you see black youngsters. Gun violence is a national disgrace. That is in the black communities. Gun violence is not found in poor white Appalachia, or poor native reservations, or in the barrios in numbers anywhere close to the Black neighboods of Baltimore, Chicago, or St Louis.
For many, a Black kid who studies, achieves, has a good job, and happy life ain’t Black.
That’s horse shit.
If you look at police reports in rural Appalachia or here in Indiana for that matter, you’ll find plenty of poor white folks burglarizing or otherwise stealing from people. The reason you see smash and grabs in urban areas vs rural areas is because you’re basically anonymous in a city of 1M people. You’d be easy to identify in Bloomfield, IN.
But please tell me more.
i don’t disagree. My example was gun violence— not stealing, which may not even be a crime in some cities any more. The leading cause of death for Black males <45 is homicide. Maybe you think that’s horse shit, but I don’t. I think it’s a disgrace.
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