Dickinson to Kansas
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Hogwash.
Edey was a 25k NIL guy all last off season and to begin the season most likely.
Once it was determined he was able to hold his own and play more than 20 mpg and Purdue had that preseason tourney success, his NIL assuredly jumped.
But you are talking early to mid Dec before deals rolled in and were finalized. By mid March and the Fairly comical Tourney exit, no new deals were coming in as his draft/portal status were unknown.
No way Edeys NIL arc from Dec through Feb went from 25k to a million $ based in West Laffy at Purdue in that span.
Sane people would agree he likely was able to get 200-300k in that span max.
His payday will be if he returns and the NIL affiliates get nearer 12 months from his services/image.
Sorry, but that is what was reported! I know it doesn't meet the IU spin or narrative!
Narrative?
You do realize that it’s not a badge of honor for a player (or program) to make more NIL?
As an IU fan- The less he makes the more I respect him (and PU). The more the boosters pay (in the pay for play scheme), the dirtier you are.
NIL Top 100 per On3.
They have TJD at 28 and Edey at 32 based on last years info, which is for all sports.
Rankings for basketball, where TJD is 4th and Edey is 6th:
They have TJD at 28 and Edey at 32 based on last years info, which is for all sports.
Rankings for basketball, where TJD is 4th and Edey is 6th:
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Those are value estimates not deals.
Edey could get that much...somewhere that has that kind of stroke.
I guess now it is Dingle or bust. After that it may time to hold open tryouts for the last two spots.
Good grief. Do you put this much drama into the rest of your life? 🤦♂️
It’s not. He’s right. On3 isn’t very accurate. Very little gets shared about deals.
I see weirdos everywhere I go. Bloomington, Kentucky etc…you think Lawrence Kansas isn’t a creep haven?
Again, come up with something better if you don't like On3.
On3 uses a.i. to generate the numbers not facts. It’s click bait. Nobody really knows true numbers. Some get publicized like the one Miami deal for pack but others don’t. On3 is a bad example. So there is no other examples. It’s all private money so they don’t have to report it. Notice they all say “valuation”. These are very tough estimates not backed up by anything.
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Courtsense insists that Purdue could not pay Edey top dollar, and you are more or less are saying that we could not possibly know that to be true for which I totally agree. Simply stated: If Courtsense has clear evidence that Purdue can't pay Edey market value then I'd like to see what he bases this opinion upon.
It's not precisely the same thing but Purdue and IU have very similar endowments.
Endowment Rankings: Financial: About IUF: Indiana University Foundation: Indiana University
See the Indiana University Endowment Rankings.
The endowments managed by the IU Foundation have nothing to do with athletics NIL compensation.
That’s a really bad example. IU paid more players and really did pay more than Purdue and it’s not disputed by Purdue. We just don’t know the numbers. The Hoosiers for good did publish numbers but it was what they paid out in total. We know TJD got the most followed by race. It was in the six figures for both just off that one endorsement. We do know IU donors and alums are on the NIL wagon(Purdue is trailing) That’s about all we know. I don’t take any stock in any published NIL value from sites like on3. Neither should you.Courtsense insists that Purdue could not pay Edey top dollar, and you are more or less are saying that we could not possibly know that to be true for which I totally agree. Simply stated: If Courtsense has clear evidence that Purdue can't pay Edey market value then I'd like to see what he bases this opinion upon.
It's not precisely the same thing but Purdue and IU have very similar endowments.
Endowment Rankings: Financial: About IUF: Indiana University Foundation: Indiana University
See the Indiana University Endowment Rankings.iufoundation.iu.edu
I believe the figures listed by the author on On3 are better researched than by anyone that posts here. Personally I think these NIL payments will be the end of college sports as being of much interest to any of us in a few years.
So you don't know crap! Spouting no facts, no figures, but you KNOW! Purdue doesn't dispute what? Why in the Hell would they care about what IU does or IU care about what Purdue does! Sometimes it feels like some here are in race to nowhere!
For those that would like to see how on3 comes up with their NIL formula, here's how they do it.
www.on3.com
About On3 NIL Valuation, Roster Value and NIL
The On3 NIL Valuation, Post Value and the NIL 100 set the standard market value for student-athletes and their NIL deals.
And this is key @rsomm @Bill4411For those that would like to see how on3 comes up with their NIL formula, here's how they do it.
About On3 NIL Valuation, Roster Value and NIL
The On3 NIL Valuation, Post Value and the NIL 100 set the standard market value for student-athletes and their NIL deals.
“While the algorithm includes deal data, it does not act as a tracker of the value of NIL deals athletes have completed to date, nor does it set an athlete’s NIL valuation for their entire career. The On3 NIL Valuation calculates the optimized NIL opportunity for athletes relative to the overall NIL market and projects out to as long as 12 months into the future.”
How Much is Zach Edey’s NIL Deal Worth?
The Purdue Center Zach Edey is one of the most promising prospects in basketball, and he recently made headlines for signing a NIL deal with the Purdue Collective.
www.sportskeeda.com
He also can't profit off his name for NIL under his visa so they have to get creative for his NIL.
Boilermaker Alliance announces NIL deal with Edey
Junior center Zach Edey can’t profit off his name, image and likeness in the United States because of his visa restrictions.
On3 is just guessing at what these kids are worth.
You can tell who’s paying by who the teams get. I know that’s not the whole picture but the ones that paid before are still paying. Nil still won’t stop the under table stuff either.How Much is Zach Edey’s NIL Deal Worth?
The Purdue Center Zach Edey is one of the most promising prospects in basketball, and he recently made headlines for signing a NIL deal with the Purdue Collective.
He also can't profit off his name for NIL under his visa so they have to get creative for his NIL.
Boilermaker Alliance announces NIL deal with Edey
Junior center Zach Edey can’t profit off his name, image and likeness in the United States because of his visa restrictions.www.purdueexponent.org
On3 is just guessing at what these kids are worth.
It’s an evaluation that isn’t based on real monetary value. On3 literally states this in their explanation. On3 NIL evaluation for Nijel Pack is $94k. We know for a fact that John Ruiz gave Nijel Pack $800k. Using On3 to try and decipher the real value of a player is pointless because there’s no real data used in the evaluation. It’s akin to somebody trying to guess that value of something inside a box based on the size, shape, and color of the wrapping without actually seeing what’s inside.
Which is why I have a problem with Courtsense saying there is no way that Edey got $800k. He has no idea nor do I other than what is published and/or what is stated on these message boards. The rumor is that Kansas has a package for Dickinson for 2 million dollars for next year-but again nothing but rumor. BTW TJD is worth a lot more than Dickinson, if he would have wanted to shop himself around like Big Dick did, I'm sure he could have gotten even more.
FWIW I think Edey made close to his NIL evaluation. But I would never use On3’s evaluation tool to try and make that argument because On3 explicitly states their evaluation algorithm doesn’t factor in actual signed NIL deals. It’s nothing more than an appraisal based on social media and on-court performance.
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His total payout approached $900k last year. If he returns, his deal will be around $1.5 mil including an insurance policy. Purdue will pay if a guy contributes to the school. Basically, everyone on the team gets the same and as they contribute more, their NIL money increases. Any deal they can secure on their own, is extra for them.
They won't pay to recruit a kid, which is a good thing. Judging by their 2024 class, it's not hurting them.
Can you actually report those figures? Other than the Hammer and Rails article citing his On3 evaluation?
On3 at least attempted to organize the NIL monies by player, which I presume they are more or less neutral in slant.
I can tell you that I am familiar with Purdue's collective... and that concerning men's basketball and volleyball (women's obviously), I know what I'm talking about.
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