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Desantis cost Florida a billion dollars to get even with Disney

Guy's looking more and more like a head case.


lol so first people were whining because they actually thought Disney would leave. After quickly realizing that was a farce, they make up scenarios about debt service.

There’s no way that debt couldn’t get absorbed or refinanced to limit the annual impact. Restructuring is dead right now, plenty of smart people could figure it out.
 
LOL Florida is the best run state in the country right now.
Yes people are moving to Fla in droves. Hopefully they won't vote in kind with the blue state taxes and policies they left behind.

I hate all the woke shit but Desantis' war against it just adds fuel to the fire imo. He's the opposite side of it, and not in a good way.

The Disney issue isn't spawned by anything other than retaliation to wokeness. The good of Fla residents had nothing to do with it. It's pandering.

I would vote for DeSantis but he's not what the country needs. He'll just incite other groups. I'm hoping someone better emerges
 
Yes people are moving to Fla in droves. Hopefully they won't vote in kind with the blue state taxes and policies they left behind.

I hate all the woke shit but Desantis' war against it just adds fuel to the fire imo. He's the opposite side of it, and not in a good way.

The Disney issue isn't spawned by anything other than retaliation to wokeness. The good of Fla residents had nothing to do with it. It's pandering.

I would vote for DeSantis but he's not what the country needs. He'll just incite other groups. I'm hoping someone better emerges
I agree- my Republican Party needs to turn away from the divisive shit and just throw everything to the states. Then we all just go live where it best suits us- vote with our feet as it were. It’s one thing to just stand against counter culture Woke BS- it’s another to start resembling totalitarian state legislating how folks live
 
I agree- my Republican Party needs to turn away from the divisive shit and just throw everything to the states. Then we all just go live where it best suits us- vote with our feet as it were. It’s one thing to just stand against counter culture Woke BS- it’s another to start resembling totalitarian state legislating how folks live
For sure. And it's happening. People are voting with their feet. Keep local local.

I don't know how to describe it but I've spent my entire adult life dealing with the public. I genuinely feel like I can read people. DeSantis seems mean. Like he has a nasty mean streak. And he's too paternalistic. Can you imagine him as prez with the progressive caucus. It would be endless low blow bickering.

We need to get rid of Biden. He has to be among the worst first year presidents in history. He's just an unmitigated disaster. And he's still trying to spend. Wtf. Harris shouldn't run a community parade. She's a nonstarter.

Then get someone moderate, Republican or Dem, with a measured approach who will let local govern itself and turn the country's volume down. Politicians need to get out of the culture business. That's my soapbox
 
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For sure. And it's happening. People are voting with their feet. Keep local local.

I don't know how to describe it but I've spent my entire adult life dealing with the public. I genuinely feel like I can read people. DeSantis seems mean. Like he has a nasty mean streak. And he's too paternalistic. Can you imagine him as prez with the progressive caucus. It would be endless low blow bickering.

We need to get rid of Biden. He has to be among the worst first year presidents in history. He's just an unmitigated disaster. And he's still trying to spend. Wtf. Harris shouldn't run a community parade. She's a nonstarter.

Then get someone moderate, Republican or Dem, with a measured approach who will let local govern itself and turn the country's volume down. Politicians need to get out of the culture business. That's my soapbox
So, when did you join the Squad?
:D
 
Yes people are moving to Fla in droves. Hopefully they won't vote in kind with the blue state taxes and policies they left behind.

I hate all the woke shit but Desantis' war against it just adds fuel to the fire imo. He's the opposite side of it, and not in a good way.

The Disney issue isn't spawned by anything other than retaliation to wokeness. The good of Fla residents had nothing to do with it. It's pandering.

I would vote for DeSantis but he's not what the country needs. He'll just incite other groups. I'm hoping someone better emerges
You sure are back and forth on the guy.

Look man F*ck Disney. It's about time someone stuck it up their a$$. The heads of the company coming out saying they are gonna make movies and add lgtbq freaks as characters? Another says they have secretly added crap behind the scenes for years. Desantis has them by the balls. What are they gonna do move their empire? It totally cracks me up to see the Colorado gov (idiot btw, I know restaurant owners that lost their businesses due to his over reach) come out and offer a deal. If Disney did move, someone else would grab that property and make something bigger and better without the mice and their pronouns. I applaud Desantis, again we do not need this hideous support for freaks that cannot figure out what sex they are!
 
You sure are back and forth on the guy.

Look man F*ck Disney. It's about time someone stuck it up their a$$. The heads of the company coming out saying they are gonna make movies and add lgtbq freaks as characters? Another says they have secretly added crap behind the scenes for years. Desantis has them by the balls. What are they gonna do move their empire? It totally cracks me up to see the Colorado gov (idiot btw, I know restaurant owners that lost their businesses due to his over reach) come out and offer a deal. If Disney did move, someone else would grab that property and make something bigger and better without the mice and their pronouns. I applaud Desantis, again we do not need this hideous support for freaks that cannot figure out what sex they are!
No I hate government. Disney can do what it wants. If I don't like it I do t have to go. Their duty is to shareholders. Customers do what they want. None of it should involve gov. If Fla wants to revoke Disney's autonomy for fiscal reasons fine, but I don't like gov in the culture wars, even if I side with DeSantis on it
 
You sure are back and forth on the guy.

Look man F*ck Disney. It's about time someone stuck it up their a$$. The heads of the company coming out saying they are gonna make movies and add lgtbq freaks as characters? Another says they have secretly added crap behind the scenes for years. Desantis has them by the balls. What are they gonna do move their empire? It totally cracks me up to see the Colorado gov (idiot btw, I know restaurant owners that lost their businesses due to his over reach) come out and offer a deal. If Disney did move, someone else would grab that property and make something bigger and better without the mice and their pronouns. I applaud Desantis, again we do not need this hideous support for freaks that cannot figure out what sex they are!
Ridiculous on so many levels.

F*ck Disney? Obviously you have no concept of what Disney does for the Florida economy. Or for Florida government. It generates more than $5 billion annually in state and local tax revenue.
 
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No I hate government. Disney can do what it wants. If I don't like it I do t have to go. Their duty is to shareholders. Customers do what they want. None of it should involve gov. If Fla wants to revoke Disney's autonomy for fiscal reasons fine, but I don't like gov in the culture wars, even if I side with DeSantis on it
Correct their duty is to shareholders so they should have never come out and made such idiotic statements in regards to the Parental Rights in Education bill. Just keep your mouth shut and move on. Since they opened their mouth the stock has been spiraling downward. Its time to stop the nonsense! I catch a freak in the bathroom with my daughter and they are gonna be re-arranged by me and her brothers for the rest of their life. God Damned idiots!
 
You sure are back and forth on the guy.

Look man F*ck Disney. It's about time someone stuck it up their a$$. The heads of the company coming out saying they are gonna make movies and add lgtbq freaks as characters? Another says they have secretly added crap behind the scenes for years. Desantis has them by the balls. What are they gonna do move their empire? It totally cracks me up to see the Colorado gov (idiot btw, I know restaurant owners that lost their businesses due to his over reach) come out and offer a deal. If Disney did move, someone else would grab that property and make something bigger and better without the mice and their pronouns. I applaud Desantis, again we do not need this hideous support for freaks that cannot figure out what sex they are!
Gay people are freaks?
 
Ridiculous on so many levels.

F*ck Disney? Obviously you have no concept of what Disney does for the Florida economy. Or for Florida government. It generates more than $5 billion annually in state and local tax revenue.
Does that mean it shouldn’t have to follow state and local regs like other businesses? Disney World isn’t going anywhere, everyone knows that.
 
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You sure are back and forth on the guy.

Look man F*ck Disney. It's about time someone stuck it up their a$$. The heads of the company coming out saying they are gonna make movies and add lgtbq freaks as characters? Another says they have secretly added crap behind the scenes for years. Desantis has them by the balls. What are they gonna do move their empire? It totally cracks me up to see the Colorado gov (idiot btw, I know restaurant owners that lost their businesses due to his over reach) come out and offer a deal. If Disney did move, someone else would grab that property and make something bigger and better without the mice and their pronouns. I applaud Desantis, again we do not need this hideous support for freaks that cannot figure out what sex they are!
Not sure the phrase “LGBTQ freaks” is gonna help the discussion.
 
Gay people are freaks?

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Ridiculous on so many levels.

F*ck Disney? Obviously you have no concept of what Disney does for the Florida economy. Or for Florida government. It generates more than $5 billion annually in state and local tax revenue.
You don't read very well do you Mr. Communication. Any major player could fill that void. Disney is sinking themselves with all their B.S.
 
I agree- my Republican Party needs to turn away from the divisive shit and just throw everything to the states. Then we all just go live where it best suits us- vote with our feet as it were. It’s one thing to just stand against counter culture Woke BS- it’s another to start resembling totalitarian state legislating how folks live
So you support what Desantis did. It was a state issue they handled at the state level.

Frankly, I think this utopia you all envision where the GOP comes in and just sticks to governing type of stuff is a fantasy. If you do not engage on the culture issues, you are surrendering the culture to the left. Politics is downstream of culture.

There is a more aggressive right that is rising up and it has a heavily populist bent. I would crawl over glass to vote for Desantis today. You want that version of what you want the GOP to look like back, you are going to have to fight to get the country back to a place where that is conceivable.
 
No I hate government. Disney can do what it wants. If I don't like it I do t have to go. Their duty is to shareholders. Customers do what they want. None of it should involve gov. If Fla wants to revoke Disney's autonomy for fiscal reasons fine, but I don't like gov in the culture wars, even if I side with DeSantis on it
It doesn't matter what you like. The government is in the culture wars. As is corporate America. If Disney's duty was to their shareholders, they would STFU about this stuff. They were in the minority on this bill. Disney and the government are mostly populated with leftists. They believe it is their solemn duty to advance the narrative on all fronts at all times and to use everything available to them to do it.

You may not want the fight but it is there. If you ignore it then your viewpoint loses. That is why we are at where we are today. By and large the GOP response has been to cry about the culture war but never use the levers available to them to do anything about it. So the media went left. The schools went left. The government went left (and I don't mean elected officials, the military, FBI, CIA, etc, etc are all going that way at an organizational level), corporations are swinging left...and they are imposing that viewpoint on you. Twitter doesn't want to sell to Musk because of culture war politics.

Sometimes you don't get to choose the battle, the battle chooses you. That is where we are. So you either fight for the viewpoint and the culture you want or you just have to accept that all the things that you complain about are the way it is going to be. The middle ground you want doesn't exist. This is a win or lose proposition. You don't get a truce without inflicting pain for your position.
 
Ridiculous on so many levels.

F*ck Disney? Obviously you have no concept of what Disney does for the Florida economy. Or for Florida government. It generates more than $5 billion annually in state and local tax revenue.
And they aren't going anywhere. I don't care what reason it was done for, Desantis broke up a crony capitalist deal that gave Disney an unfair advantage in the Florida market. The showed themselves to be out of step with the people of the state of Florida so the trust that they could operate as their own quasi-government in Florida was ended.

At a certain point, corporate America is going to learn that about 50% of the country is just as effective at hitting them in the pocketbook as the other half is.

Disney is a lesson. Let's see who learns it.
 
It doesn't matter what you like. The government is in the culture wars. As is corporate America. If Disney's duty was to their shareholders, they would STFU about this stuff. They were in the minority on this bill. Disney and the government are mostly populated with leftists. They believe it is their solemn duty to advance the narrative on all fronts at all times and to use everything available to them to do it.

You may not want the fight but it is there. If you ignore it then your viewpoint loses. That is why we are at where we are today. By and large the GOP response has been to cry about the culture war but never use the levers available to them to do anything about it. So the media went left. The schools went left. The government went left (and I don't mean elected officials, the military, FBI, CIA, etc, etc are all going that way at an organizational level), corporations are swinging left...and they are imposing that viewpoint on you. Twitter doesn't want to sell to Musk because of culture war politics.

Sometimes you don't get to choose the battle, the battle chooses you. That is where we are. So you either fight for the viewpoint and the culture you want or you just have to accept that all the things that you complain about are the way it is going to be. The middle ground you want doesn't exist. This is a win or lose proposition. You don't get a truce without inflicting pain for your position.
"If Disney's duty was to their shareholders, they would STFU about this stuff." No you just disagree with the message. That doesn't bear on their duty. Their duty is always to the shareholders. Shareholders delegate power to shitcan the CEO to the board. If the shareholders don't like what's going on they have remedies. Gov isn't it.

You and i are aligned in our views; where i deviate from you is in the role of gov and influence on corporations. Corporations can do what they like. If Adidas wants to promote trans athletes that's their right; just as it's mine to buy Umbro instead. I want companies to do what they want and I want gov to stay out of our lives
 
You sure are back and forth on the guy.

Look man F*ck Disney. It's about time someone stuck it up their a$$. The heads of the company coming out saying they are gonna make movies and add lgtbq freaks as characters? Another says they have secretly added crap behind the scenes for years. Desantis has them by the balls. What are they gonna do move their empire? It totally cracks me up to see the Colorado gov (idiot btw, I know restaurant owners that lost their businesses due to his over reach) come out and offer a deal. If Disney did move, someone else would grab that property and make something bigger and better without the mice and their pronouns. I applaud Desantis, again we do not need this hideous support for freaks that cannot figure out what sex they are!
NASCAR not any better! I quit watching and going to any of their Woke races.
 
"If Disney's duty was to their shareholders, they would STFU about this stuff." No you just disagree with the message. That doesn't bear on their duty. Their duty is always to the shareholders. Shareholders delegate power to shitcan the CEO to the board. If the shareholders don't like what's going on they have remedies. Gov isn't it.

You and i are aligned in our views; where i deviate from you is in the role of gov and influence on corporations. Corporations can do what they like. If Adidas wants to promote trans athletes that's their right; just as it's mine to buy Umbro instead. I want companies to do what they want and I want gov to stay out of our lives
But in this case murt its different. How many corps govern their own cities (municipalities) within state boundaries?
 
But in this case murt its different. How many corps govern their own cities (municipalities) within state boundaries?
I don't remember enough of the public admin/fiscal stuff on how this will play out with bonds etc. If I were a betting man it won't happen. It's a political stunt, and that's my problem with it. June of 23 is when it's supposed to occur and I bet it doesn't happen.

As for your take that I'm "back and forth" on the guy - you're right. Lots of good and bad with Desantis imo
 
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