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Covid restrictions are on the way back

You clearly meant "experts".

Here's some advice. One might want to think twice about following the "experts" advice, when the "experts" are directly profiting off the things they are pushing.
Thanks, but again, I’ll listen to my doctor instead of random internet expert. Will think about the lightbulbs and horse medicine though.
 
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For some it is definitely connected.

My sister is anti-vaccine because that's the stance of her minister and the people who go to her church in Seymour, IN. She actually tried to "explain" to me how the vaccine is (she was told) made out of the cells of aborted babies.

My brother is also anti-vaccine and a follower of that wing nut Rodney Howard-Browne, who claims that prayer protects you from COVID and that nobody in his church in the Tampa FL area has ever had it. My brother's step-son is a faith healer-in-training at that goofball's church. He wants nothig to do with me after I insisted that COVID is real.
Those are examples of cult behavior.

On the other side…we were reluctant to adjust to the realities of the situation.
Some were so entrenched on being “right”.
I worked thru it and gave numerous vaccinations. Originally, they saved lives. But as the virus changed they became less and less “competent” and not as needed.

I will have to see a more virulent strain before I get another covid vaccine…not because I’m afraid but because I don’t see the need to feel like crap for 24 hours.
 
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You've clearly lost your way Aloha. And your next post that has value to anybody other than your fellow TDS cult members will be your 1st.

You should stick to talking your book. Hopefully you remember what that means. It's about all you're good for. BUD says hi.
I love when a lost Trumpster calls others lost.

Your OP is trash. It’s just another ridiculous conspiracy theory, yet you post as if you add something important to the conversation. It would be funny if it wasn’t so sad.
 
Those are examples of cult behavior.

On the other side…we were reluctant to adjust to the realities of the situation.
Some were so entrenched on being “right”.
I worked thru it and gave numerous vaccinations. Originally, they saved lives. But as the virus changed they became less and less “competent” and not as needed.

I will have to see a more virulent strain before I get another covid vaccine…not because I’m afraid but because I don’t see the need to feel like crap for 24 hours.
I think a lot of it depends on people’s reactions. I had no reactions to initial shot or booster, but my Covid case was very light too. I’d rather feel like crap for 24 hours than a week or two with Covid. I’ll wait to see what they say about the new one coming out.
 
Personally No! Just vaxed that died of the vax.
How do you know they died from the vaccination? It’s certainly very rare that can be proven. Was your mother or was it MIL vaxxed? Probably not, since it was early during Covid.
 
Your last paragraph reflects so much of what is wrong with this country at the moment. Just suck it up and do what you're told. It's weak, dumb, and sad. The people/sheep that blindly followed "the science" are the real pussies, imo.

Reread the OP. I didn't state that mask mandates and lockdowns were some insurmountable event. But they were stupid. I hope the people who willingly became sheep understand that now.
In hind sight they were stupid and unnecessary in some cases. Key words "In hind sight". Same blind sheep comment can be said about the OP. It's ridiculous fear porn. Red meat.

It wasn't the "Holocaust" level event people try and make it out to be. Just move on man.

Also I thought "just comply" was a GOP slogan?
 
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How do you know they died from the vaccination? It’s certainly very rare that can be proven. Was your mother or was it MIL vaxxed? Probably not, since it was early during Covid.
There was no vax yet and she died of cancer. The ride they put her through was hell. For us as well. 2 days after she was admitted to the hospital they locked the hospital down. It was very limited, restricted, visiting in the nursing home and no visiting in the covid wing.

How do you know they died from the vaccination?
There were 3 all vaxed, fine health wise and dropped dead. Two in the same family and one of my employees girlfriends. All black, all died suddenly. I've posted their story here before. 1 in her 30's with kids, 1 in her 40's with kids and 1 in his 60's. All fine and healthy, all dead suddenly of heart issues within 6 months of the Vax. And all that young.
 
You clearly meant "experts".

Here's some advice. One might want to think twice about following the "experts" advice, when the "experts" are directly profiting off the things they are pushing.
You realize most of us have our own doctors, right? They don't profit off us getting a free vaccine.
 
Good thing the Internet and some of you online geniuses weren't around years ago. We'd still be regularly dealing with Polio, Small Pox, and Measles.

I don't believe in science but the article my cousin posted is gospel. Lol.
 
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Some super blue counties would lock down but it would be nothing like last time. Too many wouldn’t comply. Cops wouldn’t enforce etc. I’d be in a trickbag as my daughter goes to school in the WOKEST WOKE school district on the planet. I have no idea what she/her would do

Zero chance anyone would follow that up here and I'm in the only state Reagan didn't carry in 84
 
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This Response Team member must never walk into medical facilities. Masks and vaccines are critical for most pharma teams that call on doctors.

In 2023? I haven't been in a single place that required it in well over a year at this point.
 
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For some it is definitely connected.

My sister is anti-vaccine because that's the stance of her minister and the people who go to her church in Seymour, IN. She actually tried to "explain" to me how the vaccine is (she was told) made out of the cells of aborted babies.

My brother is also anti-vaccine and a follower of that wing nut Rodney Howard-Browne, who claims that prayer protects you from COVID and that nobody in his church in the Tampa FL area has ever had it. My brother's step-son is a faith healer-in-training at that goofball's church. He wants nothig to do with me after I insisted that COVID is real.
They are actually made with cells from Chinese hamster ovaries.
 
For some it is definitely connected.

My sister is anti-vaccine because that's the stance of her minister and the people who go to her church in Seymour, IN. She actually tried to "explain" to me how the vaccine is (she was told) made out of the cells of aborted babies.

My brother is also anti-vaccine and a follower of that wing nut Rodney Howard-Browne, who claims that prayer protects you from COVID and that nobody in his church in the Tampa FL area has ever had it. My brother's step-son is a faith healer-in-training at that goofball's church. He wants nothig to do with me after I insisted that COVID is real.

If only they were scientists and could make stupid statements instead of non-scientists making stupid statements.
 
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all dead suddenly of heart issues within 6 months of the Vax. And all that young.
Hmmm... hard to see why the world's most common cause of death, heart disease, would take anyone's life. 6 months? Why so sure of a connection?

My brother died of a sudden heart attack at age 57. No warnings. He was an MD and a good athlete (he ran marathons). Shit happens. This was 2014? or so. No vaccine connection, obviously. But he had a bowl of Orville Redenbacker popcorn the week before. That must be it. I'm SURE of it!
 
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They are actually made with cells from Chinese hamster ovaries.
Yep, CHO cells are used to crank out many proteins.

The erronious connection to abortion with vaccines comes from the fact that many drugs are tested for toxicity or efficacy on human cell types. It's not easy to culture human cells, though, as you know. But some human cells that behave quite well are various forms of cancer cells (they grow grow grow) and also fetal cell lines, cells grown in a laboratory based on aborted fetal cells that were collected >50 years ago.
 
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Yep, CHO cells are used to crank out many proteins.

The erronious connection to abortion with vaccines comes from the fact that many drugs are tested for toxicity or efficacy on human cell types. It's not easy to culture human cells, though, as you know. But some human cells that behave quite well are various forms of cancer cells (they grow grow grow) and also fetal cell lines, cells grown in a laboratory based on aborted fetal cells that were collected >50 years ago.
I think I asked you this before and forgot your answer, so apologies. Out of curiosity, what is your profession? I assume you are in the medical field based on your knowledge surrounding the vaccines. Thanks.
 
I think I asked you this before and forgot your answer, so apologies. Out of curiosity, what is your profession? I assume you are in the medical field based on your knowledge surrounding the vaccines. Thanks.
I am a medicinal chemist, IU PhD in chemistry. I used to be a research group leader in pharma. Now I have my own research group in academia. I work with project teams looking for new types of small molecule drugs (not vaccines or biologics). My largest reaearch grant is part of an NIH antiviral drug discovery (AViDD) center.
 
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Being Christian conservative has jack squat to do with a person’s vaccination status. Don’t tie this anti-vax nonsense to Christianity or conservatism. It’s a wingnut thing. I preferred when it was more of a moonbat thing. I don’t enjoy having so much stupidity on my side of the political spectrum. It’s embarrassing.
Stop it. If someone didn’t get vaccinated for Covid it doesn’t make them a moonbat, dumb, or anything else.
 
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How dumb was a healthy 37 year old for not getting vaccinated? How about a 25 year old who already had Covid?

Dumb enough to risk increased chances of infection and/or transmission to others who might be more susceptible to severe disease.
 
Dumb enough to risk increased chances of infection and/or transmission to others who might be more susceptible to severe disease.
The vaccine didn’t stop transmission and susceptible people could get vaccinated. So, no, they are still not dumb.
 
The vaccine didn’t stop transmission and susceptible people could get vaccinated. So, no they are still not dumb.

It didn't stop it, but it slowed it down. People who were less sick and sick for a shorter duration were less likely to be infectious than those who were sicker or sick longer. And a lot of susceptible people didn't get the jab (like my elderly next door neighbor) and ended up dying. I'd hate to be the younger healthy unvaccinated family member who most likely infected her, but I suppose you could say she had it coming.
 
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Has it been reported what strain of Covid is circulating and if this year’s influenza vaccine is a good match?
I think it's the indicment5 strain. The vaccine won't work, but they won't let that out until after the next election. I mean it won't be proven untill after the next election. That is what I meant.
 
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The vaccine didn’t stop transmission and susceptible people could get vaccinated. So, no, they are still not dumb.
All vaccines are part of a group effort. You get the vaccine even if you don't need it so that you can add a tiny little bit to the giant pool of protection that, as a whole, helps minimize harm and protect those who most need protected. If you are young and healthy, and you forego a vaccine because you don't need it, that's not dumb. It's just selfish.
 
I am a medicinal chemist, IU PhD in chemistry. I used to be a research group leader in pharma. Now I have my own research group in academia. I work with project teams looking for new types of small molecule drugs (not vaccines or biologics). My largest reaearch grant is part of an NIH antiviral drug discovery (AViDD) center.
Got it. Thanks!
 
Sorry, I misunderstood your question.

I heard that expectations are for a rough flu season and southern hemisphere is seeing both A and B.


The "scientist" aren't very good at picking what to vaccinate for....
 
This Response Team member must never walk into medical facilities. Masks and vaccines are critical for most pharma teams that call on doctors.

Wrong. Pfizer has waivers that are fairly easy to get. Chick was pissed that her husband's job mandated, but she, working for the manufacturer, had an easy out.

At a regional meeting in New Orleans couple weeks ago it was announced the new vax would roll out around 9/1, with a 40% spiff (which I guess is high?) for units moved.

We'll see.
 
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