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COVID vaccinations are no longer required by most countries for foreign visitors. Why do think that is?
Because to the extent the vaccine had any utility at all for a subset of the population, it was maybe a three month period during Delta. It is now a useless product intended for an unserious illness.
 
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"Shouting down dissent" has nothing to do with it. Those who doubted the consensus view at the time (not in hindsight) were unable or unwilling to use the scientific method to refine, revise or supplant that view. They were the ones doing the "shouting".
Wrong. They were shouted down and ostracized. Most doctors with differing opinion were afraid to buck Fauci and the other people who fcked up during Covid.
 
Stoll, keep asking myself what did we learn during Covid which we can all agree upon, so we can work together when the next pandemic hits?
Total transparency and not one celebrity calling himself science and running the show. Fauci had too much power. IMO.

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The Stanford professor who faced scrutiny and criticism during the COVID-19 pandemic for challenging the prevailing medical community's wisdom and advocating for different policy approaches is
Dr. Jay Bhattacharya.
Key aspects of his experience and views include:
  • Challenging Lockdown Measures:Bhattacharya was a proponent of focused protection for vulnerable populations, arguing that broad lockdowns were harmful and unnecessary.
  • Santa Clara Study: He co-authored a controversial study on COVID-19 prevalence in Santa Clara County, California.
  • Experienced Censorship: He reported experiencing censorship at Stanford for his views and facing attacks during a seminar.
  • Media Scrutiny: His research, particularly the Santa Clara Study, was met with criticism and alleged interference from inside Stanford and a news site.
  • Advocacy against Censorship:Bhattacharya was a plaintiff in a lawsuit arguing that the federal government censored users on social media for their COVID-19 views.
 
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Total transparency and not one celebrity calling himself science and running the show. Fauci had too much power. IMO.

From AI search:
The Stanford professor who faced scrutiny and criticism during the COVID-19 pandemic for challenging the prevailing medical community's wisdom and advocating for different policy approaches is
Dr. Jay Bhattacharya.
Key aspects of his experience and views include:
  • Challenging Lockdown Measures:Bhattacharya was a proponent of focused protection for vulnerable populations, arguing that broad lockdowns were harmful and unnecessary.
  • Santa Clara Study: He co-authored a controversial study on COVID-19 prevalence in Santa Clara County, California.
  • Experienced Censorship: He reported experiencing censorship at Stanford for his views and facing attacks during a seminar.
  • Media Scrutiny: His research, particularly the Santa Clara Study, was met with criticism and alleged interference from inside Stanford and a news site.
  • Advocacy against Censorship:Bhattacharya was a plaintiff in a lawsuit arguing that the federal government censored users on social media for their COVID-19 views.

Stoll, think you might be right if I read your post correctly.

When the next pandemic strikes, just pick out a researcher whose conclusions and recommendations seem reasonable and follow them.

Or just follow your own gut feelings.
 
Stoll, think you might be right if I read your post correctly.

When the next pandemic strikes, just pick out a researcher whose conclusions and recommendations seem reasonable and follow them.

Or just follow your own gut feelings.
One of the best things that came from the pandemic is the widespread use of mRNA vaccines. They are safe, effective, and can be developed rapidly.







One of the worst things that developed during the pandemic was the anti-science MAGA conspiracy theory faction of the GOP. I used to laugh at the stupid conspiracy theorists among the moonbats, but they're populating the MAGA wingnut faction now as well. I just don't find that as humorous, I find it very embarrassing.
 
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Total transparency and not one celebrity calling himself science and running the show. Fauci had too much power. IMO.

From AI search:
The Stanford professor who faced scrutiny and criticism during the COVID-19 pandemic for challenging the prevailing medical community's wisdom and advocating for different policy approaches is
Dr. Jay Bhattacharya.
Key aspects of his experience and views include:
  • Challenging Lockdown Measures:Bhattacharya was a proponent of focused protection for vulnerable populations, arguing that broad lockdowns were harmful and unnecessary.
  • Santa Clara Study: He co-authored a controversial study on COVID-19 prevalence in Santa Clara County, California.
  • Experienced Censorship: He reported experiencing censorship at Stanford for his views and facing attacks during a seminar.
  • Media Scrutiny: His research, particularly the Santa Clara Study, was met with criticism and alleged interference from inside Stanford and a news site.
  • Advocacy against Censorship:Bhattacharya was a plaintiff in a lawsuit arguing that the federal government censored users on social media for their COVID-19 views.
This is how we should have responded to the COVID-19 pandemic and I said so at the time (I remember Marvin vehemently disagreeing with me):

 
Stoll, think you might be right if I read your post correctly.

When the next pandemic strikes, just pick out a researcher whose conclusions and recommendations seem reasonable and follow them.

Or just follow your own gut feelings.
I certainly have no business making medical decisions for others. During COVID I talked to doctors and pharmacists who weren’t right wing crack pots who had real issues that made sense about the COVID vaccines and treatments.

Transparency and professionals with varied opinions need to be involved.
 
One of the best things that came from the pandemic is the widespread use of mRNA vaccines. They are safe, effective, and can be developed rapidly.







One of the worst things that developed during the pandemic was the anti-science MAGA conspiracy theory faction of the GOP. I used to laugh at the stupid conspiracy theorists among the moonbats, but they're populating the MAGA wingnut faction now as well. I just don't find that as humorous, I find it very embarrassing.

There are opposing opinions regarding mRNA vaccines that aren’t MAGA extremists.
 
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One of the best things that came from the pandemic is the widespread use of mRNA vaccines. They are safe, effective, and can be developed rapidly.







One of the worst things that developed during the pandemic was the anti-science MAGA conspiracy theory faction of the GOP. I used to laugh at the stupid conspiracy theorists among the moonbats, but they're populating the MAGA wingnut faction now as well. I just don't find that as humorous, I find it very embarrassing.
One of the worst things that happened was the failures of our gov agencies that suck up billions of dollars and were grossly negligent. Caught off guard yet literally charged with not getting caught off guard.

The other terrible thing was how it was politicized to shut society down based on manipulated half truths created by your party of Dems
 
This is how we should have responded to the COVID-19 pandemic and I said so at the time (I remember Marvin vehemently disagreeing with me):

^ Johnny come lately. Aloha’s first demonstrated support for the GBD is in 2022.
 
Stoll, keep asking myself what did we learn during Covid which we can all agree upon, so we can work together when the next pandemic hits?
People learned that governments and their institutions aren't effective and dishonest. Covid will go down as the turning point from a prolonged period of centralization to the era of decentralization. It was long overdue.
 
I certainly have no business making medical decisions for others. During COVID I talked to doctors and pharmacists who weren’t right wing crack pots who had real issues that made sense about the COVID vaccines and treatments.

Transparency and professionals with varied opinions need to be involved.
how did you know they weren't right wing crack pots? Did you ask them? Did they not wear their MAGA hat to work?
 
People learned that governments and their institutions aren't effective and dishonest. Covid will go down as the turning point from a prolonged period of centralization to the era of decentralization. It was long overdue.

SC, always believed we the people chose who governs us. Therefore we are in charge.

Are you saying until the swamp is cleaned as in removing woke bureaucrats per DOGE, we the people through our elected representatives aren't really in charge?
 
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People learned that governments and their institutions aren't effective and dishonest. Covid will go down as the turning point from a prolonged period of centralization to the era of decentralization. It was long overdue.
How will decentralization solve the problem? Do you believe your local institutions are more effective and honest?

That might be true in Indiana. I can assure you it is not true in Chicago.
 
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it was brutal for kids all over the country. they lost a lot. for no reason. dishonesty. people lost what they built. businesses. livelihoods. lord knows you've never built a thing in your life w2
Why do you continue to argue with hickory?

Place on Ignore him and and a handful of others that you get nothing out of, and your experience here will be so much more pleasant.
 
it was brutal for kids all over the country. they lost a lot. for no reason. dishonesty. people lost what they built. businesses. livelihoods. lord knows you've never built a thing in your life w2
brutal is an exaggeration and covid was deadly.

Lockdowns ended when vaccinations helped make covid less deadly. exactly as it should have been. Some conservatives were premature in opening back up and politicized the pandemic lockdowns because they found they could easily rile up their rubes. Fortunately Holcomb wasn't among the nutcases that didn't take covid seriously.
 
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brutal is an exaggeration and covid was deadly.
brutal. because of vapid sheep like you who couldn't read and understand the negligible risk to kids and wore masks like a political dunce cap

AI Overview
COVID-19 pandemic massively set back learning, especially ...
The COVID-19 pandemic significantly disrupted children's education and development, leading to both academic and behavioral setbacks. Some children struggled to adapt to remote learning and experienced a decline in their academic progress. Additionally, there were reports of increased behavioral issues and challenges with classroom routines, as well as a rise in absenteeism rates.
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One of the worst things that happened was the failures of our gov agencies that suck up billions of dollars and were grossly negligent. Caught off guard yet literally charged with not getting caught off guard.

The other terrible thing was how it was politicized to shut society down based on manipulated half truths created by your party of Dems
You missed my criticism of shutting down for COVID-19 apparently. I was vehemently opposed then and said so. I just linked the Great Barrington Declaration which is what I supported soon as it was released and said so here. My party was in charge nation-wide at the beginning of COVID, and screwed it up.
 
How will decentralization solve the problem?
The problem was lockdowns. There is less chance of it happening when governments have less power.
Do you believe your local institutions are more effective and honest?
Maybe, maybe not. The important part is it's much more difficult for a local health office or school board member to enforce lockdowns. Individuals can decide what they want to do.
That might be true in Indiana. I can assure you it is not true in Chicago.
I wouldn't ever live in Chicago because I don't like Democrat policies or governance. Also, you still have the ability to leave the state, which is what a lot of people did during Covid.
 
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yea, because people died from the shutdowns lmao.

Being stuck inside with your family must have been brutal.
Lockdowns killed

Deaths associated with alcohol, drugs, and suicide took the lives of 186,763 Americans in 2020, a 20 percent one year increase in the combined death rate and the highest number of substance misuse deaths ever recorded for a single year, according to a report released today by Trust for America’s Health (TFAH) and Well Being Trust. In addition, provisional data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention show drug overdose deaths continued to increase in 2021.

While alcohol, drug, and suicide deaths have been increasing for decades, the 2020 increase was unprecedented and driven by a 30 percent increase in the rate of drug-induced deaths and a 27 percent increase in the rate of alcohol-induced deaths. Combined rates of alcohol, drug, and suicide deaths increased in all 50 states except New Hampshire, and for the first time two states – West Virginia and New Mexico – surpassed 100 deaths per 100,000 state residents from alcohol, drugs, and suicide combined in a single year
 
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And remember still. The lefties like aloha collect gov checks. They don’t care. What businesses do they need to keep open. They aren’t worried about payroll and future revenue
You are 100 percent wrong on my position. I said then, and I say now, that closing businesses was absolutely the wrong policy.
 
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