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Colvin in the portal....

You got me thinking. The new system makes it easier for players to quit if the going gets tough or they get more money at a school. So there is no interest in those who created this system to develop young men and women. Plus with all these transfers then will less people graduate? So what are the adults in the room doing? No toughness. No loyalty. No love.
So you're saying a player who can move and get hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions more at another school, which for one or two years of playing could be invested and be a safety net and comfortable retirement for the rest of his life, should just stay and "get tough" where he is? Glad you're not my financial advisor. In this sort of thing, always look out for #1 because as soon as your coach thinks he has found someone better than you, you'll be gone without much more than a "thanks for your time."
 
How about 12 boards a game? That makes a ton of sense. Only took six 3’s but made 4. Purdue must have been near the bottom of the NCAA in blocks last year. Rebounding was a problem. Jacobsen and Cuff will help remedy that. Pretty sure Painter can “figure” out how to use these guys and not hurt TKR’s production. We basically played the entire season without a 5 on the floor.
Whoa there Sporto

How bout you keep your promise.
 
Portal may hurt the lowest level kids a bit, they can get bumped out, recruited over, in a hurry.

But anybody mid-level and up (Cupps?) it's only making them more cash right now. Many would be foolish to do anything but move for the money if it's very significant of a difference. Most will not play pro, so this semi-pro money is worth going after.

They can return to graduate later ...
 
You got me thinking. The new system makes it easier for players to quit if the going gets tough or they get more money at a school. So there is no interest in those who created this system to develop young men and women. Plus with all these transfers then will less people graduate? So what are the adults in the room doing? No toughness. No loyalty. No love.
Graduate? They'll have plenty of money to get a degree if they want later.
 
I am good and apparently have a better memory than you.

You thought no one would remember that you said if IU won even one MBB game vs Purdue this past season you would never post here again?

Keep your promise

Take a hike.
Promises are broken every day - I’m sure you wake up everyday and say - “I’m gonna be smart today” - never happens. See it’s easy. I was responding to someone on here who actually knows something about basketball unlike yourself. So how about you take a hike and mind your own business which is sounding dumb, annoying fellow IU fans, seeing how high you can get your post count and obviously not working.
 
I am good and apparently have a better memory than you.

You thought no one would remember that you said if IU won even one MBB game vs Purdue this past season you would never post here again?

Keep your promise

Take a hike.
I say this with all sincerity - I’ve seen many posts where people call you out for compulsive lying amongst a multitude of other issues. You’re not well. Help is just a phone call away. I can provide you with a number if you need it!
 
I say this with all sincerity - I’ve seen many posts where people call you out for compulsive lying amongst a multitude of other issues. You’re not well. Help is just a phone call away. I can provide you with a number if you need it!
The posts you refer to are your fellow pu trolls, not IU people

You promised to stop posting/trolling here if IU won either game with PU. Keep your promise
 
You got me thinking. The new system makes it easier for players to quit if the going gets tough or they get more money at a school. So there is no interest in those who created this system to develop young men and women. Plus with all these transfers then will less people graduate? So what are the adults in the room doing? No toughness. No loyalty. No love.
So you would turn down 1 or 2 million for the glory of old IU?
 
"I will leave you with this and never post here again if IU wins just one of the two games this season. You will have a legit chance at home - maybe 40 percent - I honestly could see an IU win and another court storming 😂 even though a program of your caliber would never do that again"

Keep your promise @SaratogaBoiler1
 
I am good and apparently have a better memory than you.

You thought no one would remember that you said if IU won even one MBB game vs Purdue this past season you would never post here again?

Keep your promise

Take

"I will leave you with this and never post here again if IU wins just one of the two games this season. You will have a legit chance at home - maybe 40 percent - I honestly could see an IU win and another court storming 😂 even though a program of your caliber would never do that again"

Keep your promise @SaratogaBoiler1
Nah - too much fun
 
Camden Heide from Purdue has entered the portal...depth taking a hit in West Lafayette. One could certainly assume the Boilermakers do not have funds to pay depth pieces plus TKR and Braden Smith.
 
Camden Heide from Purdue has entered the portal...depth taking a hit in West Lafayette. One could certainly assume the Boilermakers do not have funds to pay depth pieces plus TKR and Braden Smith.
Or they wanted more minutes and more prominent roles. Seems like that is more likely the case here. And maybe Harris, Cox and Benter were going to eat into those minutes.
 
Camden Heide from Purdue has entered the portal...depth taking a hit in West Lafayette. One could certainly assume the Boilermakers do not have funds to pay depth pieces plus TKR and Braden Smith.


Ran the bank dry paying a low mid major superstar Big in Kluff, now all the rats with no cheddar are jumping ship.
 
Ran the bank dry paying a low mid major superstar Big in Kluff, now all the rats with no cheddar are jumping ship.
Or more opportunity. Not always about the money. We have no idea what the money was. We know what the role was, and he easily wanted and could command a bigger role and more minutes elsewhere.
 
Camden Heide from Purdue has entered the portal...depth taking a hit in West Lafayette. One could certainly assume the Boilermakers do not have funds to pay depth pieces plus TKR and Braden Smith.
I won't speculate as to why Heidi left because I don't need BoilerN humping my leg, but one thing I read is that much of Moze's NIL is signed outside of PU's budget with Stanley, a shoe company and the NIL store which is a small operation. On one hand this allows a small budget program like Purdue to keep him but also makes much of his NIL $$ portable.

Pretty smart on his part.
 
I won't speculate as to why Heidi left because I don't need BoilerN humping my leg, but one thing I read is that much of Moze's NIL is signed outside of PU's budget with Stanley, a shoe company and the NIL store which is a small operation. On one hand this allows a small budget program like Purdue to keep him but also makes much of his NIL $$ portable.

Pretty smart on his part.
Guess we will never know how much Purdue is paying out. They seem to be doing ok though. Good offseason so far. Losing Heide sucked, but we are talking about maybe the 7th or 8th guy seemingly wanting to play.

It’s just funny that apparently the only reason he left is money. Opportunity makes as much or more sense. But whatever yall have to tell yourself to feel better.
 
Guess we will never know how much Purdue is paying out. They seem to be doing ok though. Good offseason so far. Losing Heide sucked, but we are talking about maybe the 7th or 8th guy seemingly wanting to play.

It’s just funny that apparently the only reason he left is money. Opportunity makes as much or more sense. But whatever yall have to tell yourself to feel better.
Commence the leg hump

Maybe he left for both a bigger role and some NIL. Can't blame any of them. Interesting how the narrative about the "PU culture" has been quickly flushed.
 
Maybe he left for both a bigger role and some NIL. Can't blame any of them. Interesting how the narrative about the "PU culture" has been quickly flushed.
The Purdue culture still seems to be intact. Not sure what you are talking about. They lost two guys that didn’t play and two guys who were likely going to lose minutes to TKR playing more four and Harris playing more. Plus Benter is lurking in the background. And they were both guys who seemingly wanted more minutes and more prominent roles. Not sure how this is a culture issue suddenly.
 
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Guess we will never know how much Purdue is paying out. They seem to be doing ok though. Good offseason so far. Losing Heide sucked, but we are talking about maybe the 7th or 8th guy seemingly wanting to play.

It’s just funny that apparently the only reason he left is money. Opportunity makes as much or more sense. But whatever yall have to tell yourself to feel better.
Another guess is he left for the same reason Gillis left...they want a chance to win a Natty.
 
The Purdue culture still seems to be intact. Not sure what you are talking about. They lost two guys that didn’t play and two guys who were likely going to lose minutes to TKR playing more four and Harris playing more. Plus Benter is lurking in the background. And they were both guys who seemingly wanted more minutes and more prominent roles. Not sure how this is a culture issue suddenly.
Not an expert on PU, but watching them some during the season and quite a bit at the end - Heide was their 3rd best player. Might have been their best athlete and defender. And was becoming a consistent shooter and threat on offense. Benter is not that kind of athlete. To think that he is going to effectively replace some of those minutes is funny. Just accept that you lost your 3rd best player ( with what - 2 yrs of eligibility) and move on.
 
Not an expert on PU, but watching them some during the season and quite a bit at the end - Heide was their 3rd best player. Might have been their best athlete and defender. And was becoming a consistent shooter and threat on offense. Benter is not that kind of athlete. To think that he is going to effectively replace some of those minutes is funny. Just accept that you lost your 3rd best player ( with what - 2 yrs of eligibility) and move on.
Third best player? Does Loyer not exist? Heide looked really good in about the final 10 or so games. Otherwise, he wasn’t close to the third best player. Benter isn’t that kind of athlete, but he probably is the more well rounded player. Heide went on a horrible shooting streak that affected the rest of his game and he started losing minutes I believe. I’d say Harris and Cox were as important or more important as well. Especially going into next year. Heide wasn’t even first off the bench…
 
Third best player? Does Loyer not exist? Heide looked really good in about the final 10 or so games. Otherwise, he wasn’t close to the third best player. Benter isn’t that kind of athlete, but he probably is the more well rounded player. Heide went on a horrible shooting streak that affected the rest of his game and he started losing minutes I believe. I’d say Harris and Cox were as important or more important as well. Especially going into next year. Heide wasn’t even first off the bench…
Loyer? lol
 
You don’t think they are net positive?
I don't think that's obviously true, at this point. Losing Colvin and Heide, I think, is a pretty big blow. Cox and Harris are solid, but they're both on the small side, and won't be much help guarding/rebounding with any guards/wings with length. And as I've said, while Cluff is a very good basketball player... he changes the dynamic a fair bit... kinda back to how they played with Edey/TKR...but Cluff is no Zach Edey... no rim protection, no domination in the post = less double teaming, less open looks for Loyer/Smith/other perimeter guys. Daniel Jacobson, AND guys like Colvin and Heide, were the guys that were going to get Purdue back to being a legitimate top 10 team, like they were under Edey. 2 out of those 3 are gone. And Jacobson got recruited over. He'll still play, but he'll be a 15-20 mpg guy now, tops.

The context of all of this is if they want to be top 10, Final Four competitive. They'll continue to be top 4-5 in the B10, I'm sure.
 
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Third best player? Does Loyer not exist? Heide looked really good in about the final 10 or so games. Otherwise, he wasn’t close to the third best player. Benter isn’t that kind of athlete, but he probably is the more well rounded player. Heide went on a horrible shooting streak that affected the rest of his game and he started losing minutes I believe. I’d say Harris and Cox were as important or more important as well. Especially going into next year. Heide wasn’t even first off the bench…
Colvin and Heide were PU two best athletes hands down. Loyer is a good player, can't guard and I believe he is a good defender away from a scoreless game. The problem with Loyer or a guy like say Goode is they can't really create and as you get to a certain level of play that matters.

Also the big kid from South Dakota is not in the same ballpark as Edey, plus I thought TKR was much worse with Edey in the game or at least the numbers say so? Who knows Painter is a really good coach and they have a good roster but I do not think they are better now than last year as far as talent.
 
I don't think that's obviously true, at this point. Losing Colvin and Heide, I think, is a pretty big blow. Cox and Harris are solid, but they're both on the small side, and won't be much help guarding/rebounding with any guards/wings with length. And as I've said, while Cluff is a very good basketball player... he changes the dynamic a fair bit... kinda back to how they played with Edey/TKR...but Cluff is no Zach Edey... no rim protection, no domination in the post = less double teaming, less open looks for Loyer/Smith/other perimeter guys. Daniel Jacobson, AND guys like Colvin and Heide, were the guys that were going to get Purdue back to being a legitimate top 10 team, like they were under Edey. 2 out of those 3 are gone. And Jacobson got recruited over. He'll still play, but he'll be a 15-20 mpg guy now, tops.

The context of all of this is if they want to be top 10, Final Four competitive. They'll continue to be top 4-5 in the B10, I'm sure.
They weren’t actually. Heide and Colvin, two bench guys, weren’t make or break. And your sentiment on cluff is dumb. Over recruiting Jacobson is dumb. Jacobson will get plenty of minutes next year as he continues to improve and work on his body. His coming off of injury. Jacobson is a freshman. You are creating a narrative here…

You claim he brings no post defense. But yet, it literally cannot get worse than last year. And he brings rebounding, purdues biggest weakness. And as far as I can see, TKR is still in the post and still unstoppable. Cluff is also a good offensive player. Offense, I’m not worried about at all. Purdue lost a couple streaky shooters and 1 good rebounder. But gained a better rebounder and got more size. The roster is clearly better.

Unless you think painter is going to have cluff and TKR hold hands in the paint to clog the lane. But then idk what to tell you.
 
Colvin and Heide were PU two best athletes hands down. Loyer is a good player, can't guard and I believe he is a good defender away from a scoreless game. The problem with Loyer or a guy like say Goode is they can't really create and as you get to a certain level of play that matters.

Also the big kid from South Dakota is not in the same ballpark as Edey, plus I thought TKR was much worse with Edey in the game or at least the numbers say so? Who knows Painter is a really good coach and they have a good roster but I do not think they are better now than last year as far as talent.
I’ve literally never compared cluff and Edey. Not sure where this came from.

Also not sure what you mean by Loyer cannot create his own? He score 10 points off the dribble against Houston. A team that should have been able to “shut him down”. Maybe vs a final 4 team known for defense in the ncaa tournament isn’t a level of play that matters?
 
I don't think that's obviously true, at this point. Losing Colvin and Heide, I think, is a pretty big blow. Cox and Harris are solid, but they're both on the small side, and won't be much help guarding/rebounding with any guards/wings with length. And as I've said, while Cluff is a very good basketball player... he changes the dynamic a fair bit... kinda back to how they played with Edey/TKR...but Cluff is no Zach Edey... no rim protection, no domination in the post = less double teaming, less open looks for Loyer/Smith/other perimeter guys. Daniel Jacobson, AND guys like Colvin and Heide, were the guys that were going to get Purdue back to being a legitimate top 10 team, like they were under Edey. 2 out of those 3 are gone. And Jacobson got recruited over. He'll still play, but he'll be a 15-20 mpg guy now, tops.

The context of all of this is if they want to be top 10, Final Four competitive. They'll continue to be top 4-5 in the B10, I'm sure.
Players that leave suddenly become shitty...they have made this clear.
 
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