We definitely have a "ruthless" feel. The next thing you will see is a bunch of guys hitting the transfer portal who have been asked to leave. I would not be surprised to see a 50% roster turnover. Coming from JMU he's got a natural place to build a roster from as it's a step up for their top 15 or 20 guys.
Correct. Bill Lynch, Cam Cameron, Tom Allen, Chuck Pagano, Frank Reich, Mike Davis, Tom Crean, Archie Miller. We could go on forever.
Not at all ruthless.
Saban (in Cignetti to Indiana) "... They're not only getting a great coach, they're also getting a coach who does things the right way."
Confused as to what you are saying. He let go guys on his JMU staff go ? Because he is not under any obligation to keep IU people. Also these staff guys did not honor prior commits ?
He fired a good chunk of his staff and did honor prior commits.
Are you referring to his staff at JMU or Tom Allen’s staff? It is fairly common for new coaches to bring in an entirely new staff. So, if you’re referring to Tom Allen’s staff they are fortunate anyone was held over. That doesn’t make him ruthless at all. Brandon Shelby was the only holdover from KW’s staff when TA took over and I doubt anyone views him as ruthless.
I’m not so sure honoring the prior commits is accurate. He’s doing this the way he wants, and he has every right to do that. Even though I’m surprised at some of the decommits.
I assume he is doing that. Any evidence he isn't?
OK, why do you say that?
Nope just going off of posts…it’s hard to tell who actually knows what’s going on and who is guessing or reading into things, but either way I hope we continue to take the high road.
I was saying he did not bring multiple guys from his JMU staff. Most guys who go 11-1 don't fire four coaches at the end of the season (or in this case not hire them at their new job). Cignetti talks about attacking complacency and when you let go of four guys after going 11-1 that shows a really demanding coach. Maybe they all had new homes in Virginia and turned him down on the move for twice the salary, but my guess is they were let go.
Didn't bring multiple guys? He brought damn near his entire staff as well as S & C staff.
Mike Elko appears to be hiring mostly an entire new staff at A&M. Last I read Kevin John’s who we all know from the KW days and was his OC at Duke was going to be interviewed, but he was pursuing a large candidate pool for the OC job. So, there are many examples of coaches who don’t bring over their entire staffs whether because they didn’t want to come or the coach feels he has better options. Whichever is the case for Cignetti he is building his staff his way and I think he has that right. At the end of the day I’m not concerned about names or the process. I’m concerned about the results on the field. If what he is doing is the best path to winning I’m all for it and won’t lose any sleep over how it’s done.
I think it says a lot about Cignetti's trust in his staff bringing over as many guys as he did especially with a much larger budget pool than he enjoyed at JMU. Most the guys he's bringing over have never held job titles higher then grad assistant or quality control at the P5 level.
If LEO is just Tom Allen, Yes, he was let go.
Yea. I gave up trying to interpret.
It worried me some... But the resumes are decent, especially after results at JMU. And the fact that he grabbed Bostad is promising as well. Plus the Colorado State coach happened very fast so he must have already had the respect from coach.
Those men were employed by JMU, and presumably some will continue to be. I don’t know how those contracts work regarding severence pay but I don’t think there is any ethical obligation when you switch Us to bring your staff. Clearly the budget is much higher at IU so the available talent pool is much deeper.
The recruiting coordinator and Bostad are the only confirmed retention (from current IU staff) … He even brought his own strength and conditioning coach.
Who did he drop from HIS staff. The 'retention's' were from Tom Allen's staff. So they are not 'retentions' , but additions to his staff. New hires for him, even if they were under contract to IU prior.
Coyle explained his dumb question, ("You have to deal with NIL now, you haven't had to before.' ... ... 'Oh wait what I had meant, was deal with it at the big ten level obviously') then they assume that meaning of the dumb question should have been known, even though it's made up, and use it to rip on Cignetti for him making it obvious he considered it a stupid question.
He just added his Running backs coach from JMU so it looks like he dropped his o-line coach, two secondary coaches and a rovers coach..
It was said here he would be bringing his O-line coach. Which is why people wondered about Bostad.
My guess is that Wroblewski is JMU's backup plan for Head Coach if they don't get one of their top three hot commodities...
