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Brooks

You are right. One player is never a saviour
for a bball team. IU is building a long term plan for team success and is on the right track. Panicked posters can only look silly looking for an immediate turnaround. Archie is on the right track to sustained success.
Larry Bird was the ISU team in ‘79. Without him they might have won 50% of their games.
 
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It’s not a “try.” It’s an accurate assessment of you based on your posts. You’re not an IU fan. I’ll stand by that.
You want me to send you a picture of my den with my ii stuff? Give me your email please. Believe what you want. I dont care. Email please
 
You seem to be an immediate gratification fan, that rips/gives up on young players without letting them develop over their career. I'm sure you ripped on Watford and TWilliams when they were freshmen, and JSmith the last 2 years. Players improve, and if Damezi stays, he will be a solid contributor as a junior and senior-maybe even as a soph. Yes, I view DA and those other 5 players as cornerstones of the program. I did not write that they will all be stars, but they will be solid rotation players for a top 10 program.

These same guys who are ripping Archie right now would likely be applauding Painter for having guys like Ryan Cline. Which begs the question: what did Cline do his freshman year - besides get busted for passing out in his car with his foot on the accelerator?
 
It looks like the UK basketball recruiting class of 2019 is about to get one more member.

Johnny Juzang — a 6-foot-6 backcourt player from the Los Angeles area — is scheduled to announce his college decision sometime Friday, and he recently narrowed his choices to Kentucky, Kansas, Oregon and Virginia.

Wow he is going to have one crowded backcourt to compete with for playing time.

Kentucky’s forwards for the 2019 recruiting class...

Dontaie Allen (#67) SF 6-6” 200lbs
Johnny Juzang (#34) SF 6-6” 200lbs
Keion Brooks (#28) SF 6-7” 195lbs
Kahlil Whitney (#14) SF 6-6”185lbs

Potential recruit...
Jaden McDaniels (#7) PF 6-9” 185lbs
Crystal ball says Kentucky 85%
 
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Crean wasted 9 years and left the cupboard bare.
The Year 3 comparisons may be interesting...

And he didnt waste 9 yrs - he won 2 B10 Championships. IU decided his ceiling was too low, and tried for an upgrade. Unfortunately Archie has failed to upgrade any aspect of the program so far.
 
Kentucky’s forwards for the 2019 recruiting class...

Dontaie Allen (#67) SF 6-6” 200lbs
Johnny Juzang (#34) SF 6-6” 200lbs
Keion Brooks (#28) SF 6-7” 195lbs
Kahlil Whitney (#14) SF 6-6”185lbs

Potential recruit...
Jaden McDaniels (#7) PF 6-9” 185lbs
Crystal ball says Kentucky 85%
And the drexel transfer. Daddy B said time to be selfish. Lol.
 
You want me to send you a picture of my den with my ii stuff? Give me your email please. Believe what you want. I dont care. Email please
Nothing says that you don't care what he thinks quite liking asking for his email address to send him proof of your fandom. Then following up with another post asking for the email address again. Yep, you sure don't care.
 
Kentucky’s forwards for the 2019 recruiting class...

Dontaie Allen (#67) SF 6-6” 200lbs
Johnny Juzang (#34) SF 6-6” 200lbs
Keion Brooks (#28) SF 6-7” 195lbs
Kahlil Whitney (#14) SF 6-6”185lbs

Potential recruit...
Jaden McDaniels (#7) PF 6-9” 185lbs
Crystal ball says Kentucky 85%
They will all be fighting for mins. Tough time being a Kentucky fan.
 
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Hopefully some of these players like Allen and even Brooks look at possible two year stay. Just the practices alone are going to be preparing these young men for the next step. Playing in games may not be the only appeal for these guys. Yes of course you want PT. But having the oppurtunity to practice and push yourself everyday against the best available players. Add in the enviroment like no other. Hell ya. Thats appealing. You will not be the man. You will be part of a team contributing and learning just like they will once they get. To the NBA. None will be the man once they hit the NBA. The mind set you will need. UK gives these youngmen a early look. The dark side of that. When they leave it may be on potential. Not production on the court during game time. Not saying I like it. Just saying I could see a young man wanting to go to a place like UK. And with or with out game time. Start preparing for the next level at the highest possible level available to him at the time.
 
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Kentucky’s forwards for the 2019 recruiting class...

Dontaie Allen (#67) SF 6-6” 200lbs
Johnny Juzang (#34) SF 6-6” 200lbs
Keion Brooks (#28) SF 6-7” 195lbs
Kahlil Whitney (#14) SF 6-6”185lbs

Potential recruit...
Jaden McDaniels (#7) PF 6-9” 185lbs
Crystal ball says Kentucky 85%

Sorry, I forgot this player.
Nate Sestina- Bucknell grad transfer to Kentucky
6’9 F 245lbs
15.8ppg
8.5rpg

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/3914279
 
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Nothing says that you don't care what he thinks quite liking asking for his email address to send him proof of your fandom. Then following up with another post asking for the email address again. Yep, you sure don't care.
He wants proof I'll give it to him.
 
Hopefully some of these players like Allen and even Brooks look at possible two year stay. Just the practices alone are going to be preparing these young men for the next step. Playing in games may not be the only appeal for these guys. Yes of course you want PT. But having the oppurtunity to practice and push yourself everyday against the best available players. Add in the enviroment like no other. Hell ya. Thats appealing. You will not be the man. You will be part of a team contributing and learning just like they will once they get. To the NBA. None will be the man once they hit the NBA. The mind set you will need. UK gives these youngmen a early look. The dark side of that. When they leave it may be on potential. Not production on the court during game time. Not saying I like it. Just saying I could see a young man wanting to go to a place like UK. And with or with out game time. Start preparing for the next level at the highest possible level available to him at the time.
I did not see brooks on any mock draft boards. He better have a good year to live the one and done dream.
 
There is plenty of data to suggest we are on the right track, if you actually cared to look for it.

Try kenpom, for starters...
We did not make the tournament and did not make the NIT finals. No shooters recruited in this class. That’s the data I’m looking at
 
We did not make the tournament and did not make the NIT finals. No shooters recruited in this class. That’s the data I’m looking at

Hey, you complained about the lack of data-driven arguments. I provided you with one. Now you decline to look at the data. Make up your mind about what you want.
 
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Once again, you do realize that IU had only two open scholarships last fall. Instead of oversigning with below marginal talent (Gelon, Priller, April), Archie gained commitments from two players prior to their high school season openers. The players were McDAA TJD and 4 star shooting guard AFranklin. Both very solid recruits from the state of Indiana. Everyone on this board was thrilled with these commitments, as it was the opposite of what Crean had been doing. Both were B1G level recruits from instate, no reaches, and no oversigning.

When Forrester and Moore left in the second week of April, Archie upgraded Moore with a 4star red shirt instate junior in Joey Brunk. Archie missed on KBrooks, which hurt and was/is recruiting a shooter for next season. It has only been a month that these scholarships became open, and there is plenty of time to fill one or two of the spots.

One thing Archie won't do, which I applaud, is waste a scholarship on a player that is not potentially good enough to help IU. Crean consistently oversigned, combined with accepting players that could not help us. Archie is cleaning up that mess. Not all players work out, as every team has transfers. But IUs transfers went to LaSalle and Temple, both high mid major programs, where Crean's players went to the State Fair Community College Fightin' Corn Dogs (Gelon), or nowhere at all (April), or took up a scholarship for 4 years with no help(Priller). Crean's oversigning limited IU when players became available in the spring, as IU was consistently in an oversign position and concerned with making players transfer, rather than recruiting talent. Archie is bringing in players with talent to contribute at a B1G level, rather than throwing out/away scholarships to satisfy panicked fans.

Archie is building a program. RobP, RaceT, JHunter, DAnderson, TJD and AFranklin are cornerstones of this plan. All are upper level B1G players, potentially. IU will continue to build on this, in Archie's third recruiting class, with 4 year talents such as Leal, Galloway and Cross and others. I like his plan.


NAILED IT! Nicely written, great post.
 
Once again, you do realize that IU had only two open scholarships last fall. Instead of oversigning with below marginal talent (Gelon, Priller, April), Archie gained commitments from two players prior to their high school season openers. The players were McDAA TJD and 4 star shooting guard AFranklin. Both very solid recruits from the state of Indiana. Everyone on this board was thrilled with these commitments, as it was the opposite of what Crean had been doing. Both were B1G level recruits from instate, no reaches, and no oversigning.

When Forrester and Moore left in the second week of April, Archie upgraded Moore with a 4star red shirt instate junior in Joey Brunk. Archie missed on KBrooks, which hurt and was/is recruiting a shooter for next season. It has only been a month that these scholarships became open, and there is plenty of time to fill one or two of the spots.

One thing Archie won't do, which I applaud, is waste a scholarship on a player that is not potentially good enough to help IU. Crean consistently oversigned, combined with accepting players that could not help us. Archie is cleaning up that mess. Not all players work out, as every team has transfers. But IUs transfers went to LaSalle and Temple, both high mid major programs, where Crean's players went to the State Fair Community College Fightin' Corn Dogs (Gelon), or nowhere at all (April), or took up a scholarship for 4 years with no help(Priller). Crean's oversigning limited IU when players became available in the spring, as IU was consistently in an oversign position and concerned with making players transfer, rather than recruiting talent. Archie is bringing in players with talent to contribute at a B1G level, rather than throwing out/away scholarships to satisfy panicked fans.

Archie is building a program. RobP, RaceT, JHunter, DAnderson, TJD and AFranklin are cornerstones of this plan. All are upper level B1G players, potentially. IU will continue to build on this, in Archie's third recruiting class, with 4 year talents such as Leal, Galloway and Cross and others. I like his plan.
Is this serious or sarcasm?
 
No way Brooks goes after one year.
Jerome Hunter is absolutely his equal..
Their games mirror each other..Physically Hunter is together..
Knock on Brooks is he doesn't like to play with any little nagging injuries ..Which is a given in college by mid late January..
That said...Brooks would have been a monster get by Archie if it would have happened.
 
No way Brooks goes after one year.
Jerome Hunter is absolutely his equal..
Their games mirror each other..Physically Hunter is together..
Knock on Brooks is he doesn't like to play with any little nagging injuries ..Which is a given in college by mid late January..
That said...Brooks would have been a monster get by Archie if it would have happened.

Tired of seeing posts about how great Hunter is going to be. No way anyone outside the program has any idea how his recovery is going, if he'll get back to 100% and how good his 100% would have translated. Strictly folks hoping and grasping at straws. I too hope he can contribute, but it's silly to make comments like this based on what's transpired.
 
You are right. One player is never a saviour
for a bball team. IU is building a long term plan for team success and is on the right track. Panicked posters can only look silly looking for an immediate turnaround. Archie is on the right track to sustained success.
Ha!
 
It's as serious as your Donovan to Indiana 100% guarantee, you chickensh!t coward.

How you have the audacity to call out anyone on this board shows your 100% lack of any self-awareness or shame.

Jesus you really need to STFU.
I got one thing wrong. You’ve had dozens. Quiet in the back, kid.
 
No way Brooks goes after one year.
Jerome Hunter is absolutely his equal..
Their games mirror each other..Physically Hunter is together..
Knock on Brooks is he doesn't like to play with any little nagging injuries ..Which is a given in college by mid late January..
That said...Brooks would have been a monster get by Archie if it would have happened.
Brooks is head and shoulders better than a healthy Hunter. And Hunter isn’t healthy. That said, Hunter can be a solid player if he’s able to play and develop.
 
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