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It looks like the UK basketball recruiting class of 2019 is about to get one more member.

Johnny Juzang — a 6-foot-6 backcourt player from the Los Angeles area — is scheduled to announce his college decision sometime Friday, and he recently narrowed his choices to Kentucky, Kansas, Oregon and Virginia.

Wow he is going to have one crowded backcourt to compete with for playing time.
 
Archie had his chance. Brooks was holding off to see how IU would play. You lose 10/11 and have issues with your team and your 1 and done and recruits will think twice about coming. Not to mention our ever wonderful social media posters, ripping the players and the team. No wonder everyone is going elsewhere.
 
Archie had his chance. Brooks was holding off to see how IU would play. You lose 10/11 and have issues with your team and your 1 and done and recruits will think twice about coming. Not to mention our ever wonderful social media posters, ripping the players and the team. No wonder everyone is going elsewhere.
This makes no sense. If I am Brooks I see immediate playing time and a lot of it at IU. He would see himself as a savior if this was his main goal. We can't know for sure what is in a person's mind. But for some reason he sees UK as the key to his NBA success rather than IU. Of course I am speculating since I am not a mind reader.
 
This makes no sense. If I am Brooks I see immediate playing time and a lot of it at IU. He would see himself as a savior if this was his main goal. We can't know for sure what is in a person's mind. But for some reason he sees UK as the key to his NBA success rather than IU. Of course I am speculating since I am not a mind reader.
How the hell would he be a “savior”? Everyone said that about Romeo last year until they turned on him and blamed him.

They said the same thing about Yogi. About Zeller. About TJD. About every single big name recruit.

And guess what...NONE OF THEM ARE A SAVIOR...whatever that even means. I’m so tired of people using that vague BS as some sort of argument for why a kid should choose IU. Get out of the bubble and breathe some fresh air for once.
 
This makes no sense. If I am Brooks I see immediate playing time and a lot of it at IU. He would see himself as a savior if this was his main goal. We can't know for sure what is in a person's mind. But for some reason he sees UK as the key to his NBA success rather than IU. Of course I am speculating since I am not a mind reader.
See Romeo Langford.
 
Archie had his chance. Brooks was holding off to see how IU would play. You lose 10/11 and have issues with your team and your 1 and done and recruits will think twice about coming. Not to mention our ever wonderful social media posters, ripping the players and the team. No wonder everyone is going elsewhere.


Give me a break with the whole social media thing. The Kentucky fans were ready to run Calipari out of town when he lost in the NCAA this spring. Some people posted some of the comments Kentucky fans were making and they were far worse than the stuff on here. The decision sounded like it have everything to do with how he could best get to the NBA the fastest.
 
Archie had his chance. Brooks was holding off to see how IU would play. You lose 10/11 and have issues with your team and your 1 and done and recruits will think twice about coming. Not to mention our ever wonderful social media posters, ripping the players and the team. No wonder everyone is going elsewhere.

Fickle. Very fickle. The player who needs to be around other "great players" for 10 months before he leaves the team behind anyway.... I don't want those kind at IU ever. I understand that exceptions are sometimes necessary when rebuilding, but overall, those kind of players demonstrate through their actions that they won't ever be leaders.

Give guys like Moye, Oladipo, Fife, Coverdale... there is no ceiling to teams who have players who play team ball and work to be the best they can be. They come in as 3,4, or 5 stars based on talent, but it won't be just talent getting to the top.
 
This makes no sense. If I am Brooks I see immediate playing time and a lot of it at IU. He would see himself as a savior if this was his main goal. We can't know for sure what is in a person's mind. But for some reason he sees UK as the key to his NBA success rather than IU. Of course I am speculating since I am not a mind reader.
How the hell would he be a “savior”? Everyone said that about Romeo last year until they turned on him and blamed him.

They said the same thing about Yogi. About Zeller. About TJD. About every single big name recruit.

And guess what...NONE OF THEM ARE A SAVIOR...whatever that even means. I’m so tired of people using that vague BS as some sort of argument for why a kid should choose IU. Get out of the bubble and breathe some fresh air for once.

Actually Zeller was a bit of a savior, but the orange man couldn't maintain the momentum once Cody left.
 
Actually Zeller was a bit of a savior, but the orange man couldn't maintain the momentum once Cody left.

Because he didn't value experience. He failed to build teams with junior/senior leadership even after gaining success by having played guys for 1000's of minutes. Watford, Hulls, VJiii... all of those guys went through pains of growth to get to be solid players and team leaders.
 
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Fickle. Very fickle. The player who needs to be around other "great players" for 10 months before he leaves the team behind anyway.... I don't want those kind at IU ever. I understand that exceptions are sometimes necessary when rebuilding, but overall, those kind of players demonstrate through their actions that they won't ever be leaders.

Give guys like Moye, Oladipo, Fife, Coverdale... there is no ceiling to teams who have players who play team ball and work to be the best they can be. They come in as 3,4, or 5 stars based on talent, but it won't be just talent getting to the top.
I agree with a lot of this. Cal has the most wins in the NCAA since his time at KY. Wins are important as well as their future. It doesn't have to be mutually exclusive.
 
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It looks like the UK basketball recruiting class of 2019 is about to get one more member.

Johnny Juzang — a 6-foot-6 backcourt player from the Los Angeles area — is scheduled to announce his college decision sometime Friday, and he recently narrowed his choices to Kentucky, Kansas, Oregon and Virginia.

Wow he is going to have one crowded backcourt to compete with for playing time.

Add another to the mix fighting for playing time. Dadd Brooks must be pumped!

Five-star forward Jaden McDaniels has yet to announce to a decision date, but I expect it to come in the very near future. By that I mean in the coming days. I made a Crystal Ball pick for Kentucky two days ago and I think they are strong the leader as we enter the final days of his recruitment. McDaniels is the No. 8 overall prospect in the 247Sports Composite Rankings.
 
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Archie had his chance. Brooks was holding off to see how IU would play. You lose 10/11 and have issues with your team and your 1 and done and recruits will think twice about coming. Not to mention our ever wonderful social media posters, ripping the players and the team. No wonder everyone is going elsewhere.

We actually lost 12 of 13 and looked awful doing it. The offense was a complete mess as well and probably turned off a lot of recruits when they saw what a car wreck it was. It’s no wonder Archie has struggled to recruit since the season ended.
 
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Really excited to get Juzang. I’m sure he will be a very good player. The kids going to uk know what they are getting into. If brooks or anyone else had an issue they would of went elsewhere
 
Really excited to get Juzang. I’m sure he will be a very good player. The kids going to uk know what they are getting into. If brooks or anyone else had an issue they would of went elsewhere
Maybe but Cal also may have not told him he was going to keep recruiting guys who played his same position. It will be interesing to see how much he plays.
 
Maybe but Cal also may have not told him he was going to keep recruiting guys who played his same position. It will be interesing to see how much he plays.
Kid would of not signed if he thought that. Besides, cal doesn’t promise kids anything. They know how he recruits he’s been doing it that way for 10 years now at Kentucky. Personally, if it were me or my kid I would want them to be at somewhere they want to be as well as getting plenty of pt
 
How the hell would he be a “savior”? Everyone said that about Romeo last year until they turned on him and blamed him.

They said the same thing about Yogi. About Zeller. About TJD. About every single big name recruit.

And guess what...NONE OF THEM ARE A SAVIOR...whatever that even means. I’m so tired of people using that vague BS as some sort of argument for why a kid should choose IU. Get out of the bubble and breathe some fresh air for once.

You are right. One player is never a saviour
for a bball team. IU is building a long term plan for team success and is on the right track. Panicked posters can only look silly looking for an immediate turnaround. Archie is on the right track to sustained success.
 
It looks like the UK basketball recruiting class of 2019 is about to get one more member.

Johnny Juzang — a 6-foot-6 backcourt player from the Los Angeles area — is scheduled to announce his college decision sometime Friday, and he recently narrowed his choices to Kentucky, Kansas, Oregon and Virginia.

Wow he is going to have one crowded backcourt to compete with for playing time.
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You are right. One player is never a saviour
for a bball team. IU is building a long term plan for team success and is on the right track. Panicked posters can only look silly looking for an immediate turnaround. Archie is on the right track to sustained success.
Just a few years more we'll be there. People gotta let the serious rebuild reach completion. Just stay calm.
 
You are right. One player is never a saviour
for a bball team. IU is building a long term plan for team success and is on the right track. Panicked posters can only look silly looking for an immediate turnaround. Archie is on the right track to sustained success.
What make you say that? The two missed NCAA tournaments. What did you see last season that tells you he is the guy and we are on the right track?
 
You are right. One player is never a saviour
for a bball team. IU is building a long term plan for team success and is on the right track. Panicked posters can only look silly looking for an immediate turnaround. Archie is on the right track to sustained success.

The problem is, I just don't see anything "building". We have missed the tournament the last 2 years with a new coach. I personally expected at this point that recruiting would be rocking. Instead, it's pretty ho hum.
I'm normally a pretty optimistic guy, but I'm starting to get the same apathetic feeling I had at the end of the Crean era. Not good.
 
This makes no sense. If I am Brooks I see immediate playing time and a lot of it at IU. He would see himself as a savior if this was his main goal. We can't know for sure what is in a person's mind. But for some reason he sees UK as the key to his NBA success rather than IU. Of course I am speculating since I am not a mind reader.

time to be selfish
 
Glass is handing out participation trophies to players for an NIT performance. Until IU rids itself of Fred Glass expect more of the same. CAM is not the problem,McRobbie and Glass are the root of IU's struggles.

I have seen statements like this before and I have asked the same question without any informative answers. Maybe you have one.

Just exactly how is McRobbie a negative for the athletic department? I know some BTN money was spent on an academic building. Besides that is there any proof of the administrations holding the athletic department back?
 
The problem is, I just don't see anything "building". We have missed the tournament the last 2 years with a new coach. I personally expected at this point that recruiting would be rocking. Instead, it's pretty ho hum.
I'm normally a pretty optimistic guy, but I'm starting to get the same apathetic feeling I had at the end of the Crean era. Not good.

Once again, you do realize that IU had only two open scholarships last fall. Instead of oversigning with below marginal talent (Gelon, Priller, April), Archie gained commitments from two players prior to their high school season openers. The players were McDAA TJD and 4 star shooting guard AFranklin. Both very solid recruits from the state of Indiana. Everyone on this board was thrilled with these commitments, as it was the opposite of what Crean had been doing. Both were B1G level recruits from instate, no reaches, and no oversigning.

When Forrester and Moore left in the second week of April, Archie upgraded Moore with a 4star red shirt instate junior in Joey Brunk. Archie missed on KBrooks, which hurt and was/is recruiting a shooter for next season. It has only been a month that these scholarships became open, and there is plenty of time to fill one or two of the spots.

One thing Archie won't do, which I applaud, is waste a scholarship on a player that is not potentially good enough to help IU. Crean consistently oversigned, combined with accepting players that could not help us. Archie is cleaning up that mess. Not all players work out, as every team has transfers. But IUs transfers went to LaSalle and Temple, both high mid major programs, where Crean's players went to the State Fair Community College Fightin' Corn Dogs (Gelon), or nowhere at all (April), or took up a scholarship for 4 years with no help(Priller). Crean's oversigning limited IU when players became available in the spring, as IU was consistently in an oversign position and concerned with making players transfer, rather than recruiting talent. Archie is bringing in players with talent to contribute at a B1G level, rather than throwing out/away scholarships to satisfy panicked fans.

Archie is building a program. RobP, RaceT, JHunter, DAnderson, TJD and AFranklin are cornerstones of this plan. All are upper level B1G players, potentially. IU will continue to build on this, in Archie's third recruiting class, with 4 year talents such as Leal, Galloway and Cross and others. I like his plan.
 
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How the hell would he be a “savior”? Everyone said that about Romeo last year until they turned on him and blamed him.

They said the same thing about Yogi. About Zeller. About TJD. About every single big name recruit.

And guess what...NONE OF THEM ARE A SAVIOR...whatever that even means. I’m so tired of people using that vague BS as some sort of argument for why a kid should choose IU. Get out of the bubble and breathe some fresh air for once.

I think your are over the top in your criticism sometimes but this is 100% correct. The only way 1 person could ever be the "savior" of a program is the coach. A kid who is going to be a game changer in college you are lucky to have for more than a year. You get them 4 tops. That was Crean's issue, if players are going to be the "savior" of your program, you have to bring in at least one new "savior" (usually more) every year.

If you cannot do that then you have to be able to coach well. And in each case, it is not the players being "saviors", it is the coaches, either through recruiting prowess, coaching acumen, or a combination of both.
 
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Once again, you do realize that IU had only two open scholarships last fall. Instead of oversigning with below marginal talent (Gelon, Priller, April), Archie gained commitments from two players prior to their high school season openers. The players were McDAA TJD and 4 star shooting guard AFranklin. Both very solid recruits from the state of Indiana. Everyone on this board was thrilled with these commitments, as it was the opposite of what Crean had been doing. Both were B1G level recruits from instate, no reaches, and no oversigning.

When Forrester and Moore left in the second week of April, Archie upgraded Moore with a 4star red shirt instate junior in Joey Brunk. Archie missed on KBrooks, which hurt and was/is recruiting a shooter for next season. It has only been a month that these scholarships became open, and there is plenty of time to fill one or two of the spots.

One thing Archie won't do, which I applaud, is waste a scholarship on a player that is not potentially good enough to help IU. Crean consistently oversigned, combined with accepting players that could not help us. Archie is cleaning up that mess. Not all players work out, as every team has transfers. But IUs transfers went to LaSalle and Temple, both high mid major programs, where Crean's players went to the State Fair Community College Fightin' Corn Dogs (Gelon), or nowhere at all (April), or took up a scholarship for 4 years with no help(Priller). Crean's oversigning limited IU when players became available in the spring, as IU was consistently in an oversign position and concerned with making players transfer, rather than recruiting talent. Archie is bringing in players with talent to contribute at a B1G level, rather than throwing out/away scholarships to satisfy panicked fans.

Archie is building a program. RobP, RaceT, JHunter, DAnderson, TJD and AFranklin are cornerstones of this plan. All are upper level B1G players, potentially. IU will continue to build on this, in Archie's third recruiting class, with 4 year talents such as Leal, Galloway and Cross and others. I like his plan.
You must be watching a different team. Things are not going well and recruiting has gone south
 
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Once again, you do realize that IU had only two open scholarships last fall. Instead of oversigning with below marginal talent (Gelon, Priller, April), Archie gained commitments from two players prior to their high school season openers. The players were McDAA TJD and 4 star shooting guard AFranklin. Both very solid recruits from the state of Indiana. Everyone on this board was thrilled with these commitments, as it was the opposite of what Crean had been doing. Both were B1G level recruits from instate, no reaches, and no oversigning.

When Forrester and Moore left in the second week of April, Archie upgraded Moore with a 4star red shirt instate junior in Joey Brunk. Archie missed on KBrooks, which hurt and was/is recruiting a shooter for next season. It has only been a month that these scholarships became open, and there is plenty of time to fill one or two of the spots.

One thing Archie won't do, which I applaud, is waste a scholarship on a player that is not potentially good enough to help IU. Crean consistently oversigned, combined with accepting players that could not help us. Archie is cleaning up that mess. Not all players work out, as every team has transfers. But IUs transfers went to LaSalle and Temple, both high mid major programs, where Crean's players went to the State Fair Community College Fightin' Corn Dogs (Gelon), or nowhere at all (April), or took up a scholarship for 4 years with no help(Priller). Crean's oversigning limited IU when players became available in the spring, as IU was consistently in an oversign position and concerned with making players transfer, rather than recruiting talent. Archie is bringing in players with talent to contribute at a B1G level, rather than throwing out/away scholarships to satisfy panicked fans.

Archie is building a program. RobP, RaceT, JHunter, DAnderson, TJD and AFranklin are cornerstones of this plan. All are upper level B1G players, potentially. IU will continue to build on this, in Archie's third recruiting class, with 4 year talents such as Leal, Galloway and Cross and others. I like his plan.
Anderson is a cornerstone? Wow.
 
Anderson is a cornerstone? Wow.

You seem to be an immediate gratification fan, that rips/gives up on young players without letting them develop over their career. I'm sure you ripped on Watford and TWilliams when they were freshmen, and JSmith the last 2 years. Players improve, and if Damezi stays, he will be a solid contributor as a junior and senior-maybe even as a soph. Yes, I view DA and those other 5 players as cornerstones of the program. I did not write that they will all be stars, but they will be solid rotation players for a top 10 program.
 
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You really seem to be an immediate gratification fan. I'm sure you ripped on Watford and TWilliams when they were freshmen, and JSmith the last 2 years. Players improve, and if Damezi stays, he will be a solid contributor as a junior and senior-maybe even as a soph. Yes, I view DA and those other 5 players as cornerstones of the program. I did not write that they will all be stars, but they will be solid rotation players for a top 10 program.
Lol ive been waiting 17 uears for another elite 8. I guess i need more patience. I call it like i see it.
 
You really seem to be an immediate gratification fan. I'm sure you ripped on Watford and TWilliams when they were freshmen, and JSmith the last 2 years. Players improve, and if Damezi stays, he will be a solid contributor as a junior and senior-maybe even as a soph. Yes, I view DA and those other 5 players as cornerstones of the program. I did not write that they will all be stars, but they will be solid rotation players for a top 10 program.
So what year can I expect this top ten program? Year 5? Year 8?
 
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You really seem to be an immediate gratification fan. I'm sure you ripped on Watford and TWilliams when they were freshmen, and JSmith the last 2 years. Players improve, and if Damezi stays, he will be a solid contributor as a junior and senior-maybe even as a soph. Yes, I view DA and those other 5 players as cornerstones of the program. I did not write that they will all be stars, but they will be solid rotation players for a top 10 program.

IU is going to struggle to be a top 5 program in the Big Ten.
 
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