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Curry Kirkpatrick sporting the unfrozen caveman hair.
Forgot how much he and SI hated RMK.
I'm betting RMK and "The Anchorman" don't send each other holiday cards.
Forgot how much he and SI hated RMK.
I'm betting RMK and "The Anchorman" don't send each other holiday cards.
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I've seen this, but it's been awhile. It's really a good and fare piece that Rather does. I think he presents Knight in mostly a positive light and also allows an opposing viewpoint with Kirkpatrick. It really gives you the feel of what IU basketball was like in around 1980. Woodson should show this to his team so they can get a feel as to what it was like for when he played and what IU basketball is all about. Also, Knight did admit they wouldn't tolerate him if he was losing and many have said that in 2000 if he had had the program like it was in the early 90's he would've never been fired.
I think the two classes first of Eggers and Mandeville, then the second class of Patterson and Miller really hurt the program. These were supposed to be great players who for whatever reason never quite lived up to the expectations. This would have been in the mid 90's.
If we had a history lesson or a book/ video that documented the start of the pussification of US men, this interview would be back towards the beginning. 60 minutes, Dan Rather placing a spin, pushing towards softness to what should be strong men of strength and character is pathetic. I wouldn't be surprised if Dan Rather actually breast feed something. ... As a clarification for any of you males debating your identity, Breast feeding isn't a manly quality. It is a very admiral thing for females though. They have their jobs, we have ours and they are not a competition, they actually complement each other.
You seem confused. This is a BB forum - the psych ward is on a different floor.
You're an idiot .. please STFU and continue to do so.
What you don't like hillbilly philosophy and frontier wisdom?
Depends - didn't see evidence of either and find deep-stupid somewhat nauseating.
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I’m sure those criticizing you think men should grow breasts and get all the national records in every NCAA sport also. How dare you suggest that men and women are different. You ignorant caveman!!
Are you saying you don't find bleating macho ignorance an "admiral" quality ?
Don't have the time - too busy looking for that escape goat. 🍏
He did pique my interest with the commentary on breastfeeding.
" What about me, Greg ? I've got nipples - could you milk me ?"
A lot to like in this, particularly RMK dusting Rather for an easy lay-up (and subsequently stealing the ball from him).
RMK's suggestion to the Sports Illustrated editors about what they could do with the Time-Life Building was on point.
It's also another example of the remarkable access to the program that Knight gave the media.
RMK's suggestion to the Sports Illustrated editors about what they could do with the Time-Life Building was on point.
It's also another example of the remarkable access to the program that Knight gave the media.
It was Sherron Wilkerson, Steve Hart, Robert Foster and Mandeville and the stud that never was Monte Maraconi? Then folling year with Patterson, Reed, Miller, Herman, EGGERS and the departure of Rob Hodgson. I agree! These two back to back classes, one very good and one VERY VERY good one set the tone for the downfall.
Charlie was supposed to be the second coming of Calbert which was never fair to him. Patterson was just soft
I can only imagine how Knight gave it to his players in the late 70s early 80s. He was in great shape and could do all the things he was teaching. I would also bet every dollar I have he did it with rage we have never seen from a human. Best teacher at IU indeed
THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ and yes, Knight was a great coach, but not sure on him evaluating talent. Delray Brooks comes to mind and he hyped Bailey so high, that even though he had a great career, it never seemed enough.
No doubt Patterson's preference for singing over BB questioned his dedication as far as his coach viewed commitment to IUBB. Hard for me to believe he laid 39 on Duke but didn't sing the National Anthem before the game.
I think his take was closer to IU not tolerating anyone that was not winning not just him although the question was clearly aimed at BK and his style.
BK is correct that IU won't keep a loser although the BOT tried with Crean.
Yup '93 was a big bust. Eggers and Mandeville were not Big Ten level players. Steve Hart could jump like Oladipo, but flunked out of school, Rob Foster never played 1 minute, and we all know what became of Sherron.
'94 was supposed to be a great class. Miller and Patterson had a few nice games, but overall had disappointing careers. Neil Reed and Michael Herman-no comment on either.
Forgot about the Marcaccini kid. Signed but never enrolled at IU. He played a yr at Pepperdine as a frosh, started and averaged almost 10 ppg. Then transferred to UVA to play with his brother, and never got back on track. Played 2 uneventful yrs in euro ball. Now he sells gellato in LA:
Linked in cracks me up. Mother ****ers in suits acting like they just stepped off a yacht. Then have a green circle around the picture, open to work.
To be fair, I am sure there are about 5-10 people in the world banking on Gellatto. Maybe he is one of them.
I think the loss of Luke Recker was the ultimate nail-in-the-coffin for Bob, figuratively speaking in mortuary terms here. Recker was one of those rare players who seemed to have it all, well respected and a crowd favorite, like Steve Alford. His unexpected departure really blindsided Knight and all of Hoosier Nation. If you look at his Wiki page, it was quite impressive in basketball accomplishments. He was lucky to have not been killed in the auto accident, or paralyzed for life like his girlfriend. I'm sure it must still haunt him to this day.
I still remember Patterson hitting the game winner to win the preseason NIT and thinking we had another title run coming...
it was for me...as many long-time fans must have as well, I could sense the downward trajectory begin in the mid 90s and more so in the latter 90s. Was always hoping it was just a blip on the radar, even as 5 stars like Collier and Reed washed out and we struggled to win 20 games and above .500 in the conference. But when Recker left- Mr Basketball, rah-rah Recker, it was the first time I started to believe that the IU RMK glory days might really be over.
Sad part about it is that even though Recker made it through 2 yrs with RMK, he wanted out long before the 1st yr was over.
i don't remember the gamewinner but I do remember him going apeshit vs Duke and singlehandedly running them out of MSG.
And you knew this as fact, based upon latest science of the day, just how?
Let’s not valorize that prima donna now please…
read a Recker story yrs ago that he tried to discuss the topic of leaving with RMK after yr 1 but RMK convinced him to stay. Can't recall where I read it. Remember reading that Recker announced his transfer to RMK and staff after soph season via fax.
no reason to get snippy. If you require I'll go do some digging and try finding the article.
edit- the fax story may be half true. Sounds like he call Doniger to let him know (Knight was at a coach's clinic in Cuba- yes Cuba- and unreachable). Recker told the media via fax.
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He hit a game winner in the semis to beat Evansville then went off in the championship against Duke.
not doing that...just saying, I tried convincing myself that Collier and Reed were the problem when they left. But when Recker left, I guess it finally sunk in that there was a much bigger problem within the program, and it might not recover. Too many 5 stars were walking out the door.
The problem was that Collier was a pussy and Recker was a prima donna who thought he was special and should be treated as such. That’s it in a nutshell for ya’…
Snippiness was not an emotion of mine felt at the time. I was merely jesting in response to all the "based on science" claims of the Climate Changers and Holier-Than-Thou Mask-wearers...a reach of great length, I know.
Now, you do realize you've curtailed your story from the original post...
Sad part about it is that even though Recker made it through 2 yrs with RMK, he wanted out long before the 1st yr was over.
I thought maybe you were a personal friend of his to be privy to such information. I'm just picking hairs here and don't need any more proof or non-proof. The bottom line is that those from that era will all agree it was a sad moment in IU basketball history, both for fans and Coach Knight.
never met Recker. Don't know him. Read a story about him several yrs ago where he went into detail his departure from IU, the crash, his disbelief that RMK never reached out to him while he was in the hospital. He said he tried to transfer after yr one, his request caught RMK off guard, they talked, RMK put on the hard sell, Recker stayed. But it didn't change anything and by Feb his soph yr he was counting the days.
