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Biden flying illegals into the USA

I’m not sure what’s actually going on is any better. From your link(emphasis mine)-

“But migrants are not being flown into the U.S. randomly. Under a Biden policy in effect since January 2023, up to 30,000 people from Cuba, Haiti, Nicaragua and Venezuela can enter the country monthly if they apply online with a financial sponsor and arrive at a specified airport, paying their own way. Biden exercised his “parole” authority, which, under a 1952 law, allows him to admit people “only on a case-by-case basis for urgent humanitarian reasons or significant public benefit.”

So parole can only be used “on a case by case basis for urgent humanitarian reasons or significant public benefit”.

Biden expects us to believe that the more than 300,000 people flown in under this provision qualify under those conditions?

He’s abusing the law by any reasonable definition.

The question is why?
You do know that the majority of people fleeing "socialist" regimes in Cuba and Venezuela particularly are likely to be right wing GOP voters, right? Obviously Elon Musk is too stupid to know that,when he somehow claims that the Biden admin is bringing in "voters".

So why do YOU feel he is bringing in LEGAL immigrants from coutries like Cuba and Venezuela that are fleeing govts that the GOP in particular has been railing against for the past decade? Like when that idiot Sidney Powell claimed the voting machines were a plot that somehow Chavez concocted to "hurt Trump" before he (Chavez) died in 2013. That is the Govt that immigrants from Venezuela are fleeing.And Musk stupidly claims they are being brought in to the country because they are potential "Dem" voters...

The truth is the OP's original link provides insight into the MAGA xenophobia. They claim that they are for "legal immigration", but in reality they are opposed to immigration in general, not just "illegals". They don't want "those people" here, even when many of those people would likely align with the GOP when it comes to voting. We all already knew this, they're just saying the quiet part out loud and couching it in terms that continue to try and camoflage their duplicity.
 
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Isn't that amazing? I've lost count of all the things should have ended Trump's political career. No matter what he says or does, his MAGA cult has his back.

I mean, Howard Dean's presidential hopefuls were derailed because he yelped at too high a pitch at a rally.

I've said this before, but Trump must have signed his soul away to the devil or something, 'in exchanged for your soul, I'll make sure you have just enough electoral college votes and blindly loyal supporters to do whatever the hell you want and still be president.'
One f#cking thread could you shut up about Trump? The topic is about Biden’s immigration policies. Pick one of the other threads to have your circle jerk about Trump in.
 
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They’re full of shit when it comes to just about everything.

Hillary is under investigation for possible felonies? Holy shit she’s not qualified to be president on that alone.

The orange man has 91 criminal charges? We shouldn’t judge. Let the voters decide.
It's about like when it came to impeachment, the excuse was that the courts should handle it instead.

but then when that came around, the excuse turns into the courts are hyper partisan witch hunts and/or voters should decide, not the courts.

And round and round we go, where the spineless republicans stop no one knows.
 
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One f#cking thread could you shut up about Trump? The topic is about Biden’s immigration policies. Pick one of the other threads to have your circle jerk about Trump in.
Are you not reading the other posts in this thread or do you have some people here hidden? I was replying to a comment made.

Trump is the GOP nominee for president. I'd think his name will come up a lot here from now through November, so you might want to invest in some wrinkle-free panties to keep them from getting in a bind.
 
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Well yeah. The CIS is FOS but the program does exist and is CLEARLY being abused by the Biden administration.

Do you care to address that?
Absolutely, and the MFer should have been impeached for that and for refusing to tell local authorities when, where, and how many were coming.

Claiming this is a 'disagreement as to implementation of the law' is pure horseshit.
 
They're not 'legal' if they weren't admitted "on a case-by-case basis for urgent humanitarian reasons". The original report is much closer to the truth of the matter than your nonsense.
If they are following the guidelines given to them by our govt then I think legal is lot more accurate then whatever hairs you're trying to split.
 
I don’t want millions of Eastern Europeans coming in either each year. Also, if I was going to be prejudice it would be based on their culture, education, and religion. Not their skin tone dummy.
If our concern is that we have too many immigrants, then can we at least stop pretending to care how they got here?
 
The why is for economic reasons in my opinion. They need growth in order to be able to keep spending. We’re in too much debt and Americans aren’t having enough children. Nothing else makes sense.

No question as to the why. For the Dems, maintaining their political power, and hoping to establish what will amount to a one party state ala Mexico for so many decades.........for the corporations and traditional Republicans, cheap labor----not just for the immigrants, but also for our native lower class.
 
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If our concern is that we have too many immigrants, then can we at least stop pretending to care how they got here?
No. I am concerned who is coming and the number. Illegal immigration does have negative impacts on U.S. citizens, especially the working class. Also, I want to add more doctors, engineers, and professionals. Most of those immigrants aren’t crossing the border illegally.

Edit: I’ll add if they get the number back to 500k or close to what long term trends were when Obama was in office, it becomes a nonissue for myself.
 
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You do know that the majority of people fleeing "socialist" regimes in Cuba and Venezuela particularly are likely to be right wing GOP voters, right? Obviously Elon Musk is too stupid to know that,when he somehow claims that the Biden admin is bringing in "voters".

So why do YOU feel he is bringing in LEGAL immigrants from coutries like Cuba and Venezuela that are fleeing govts that the GOP in particular has been railing against for the past decade? Like when that idiot Sidney Powell claimed the voting machines were a plot that somehow Chavez concocted to "hurt Trump" before he (Chavez) died in 2013. That is the Govt that immigrants from Venezuela are fleeing.And Musk stupidly claims they are being brought in to the country because they are potential "Dem" voters...

The truth is the OP's original link provides insight into the MAGA xenophobia. They claim that they are for "legal immigration", but in reality they are opposed to immigration in general, not just "illegals". They don't want "those people" here, even when many of those people would likely align with the GOP when it comes to voting. We all already knew this, they're just saying the quiet part out loud and couching it in terms that continue to try and camoflage their duplicity.
If this was on the up and up, why does the Biden administration act like they got caught with their hand in the cookie jar? They still keep the details of this very public issue a secret. So much for transparency.

And where in the hell do we find the money for this anyway? With veterans and homeless living in tents, addicted to God knows what, and badly in need of mental health care, and no money to help these people, we find the dough to bring in millions of homeless migrants, give them free transportation, food, shelter ( in fancy hotels) and other bennies? If you wanna pretend that we need all these third- world refugees, why don’t people organize a bake sale to pay the freight?
 
As always, you missed the point. The real illegals here are the members of the Biden Administration. Our government may freely ignore or abuse the law with no consequences.

I didn't realize how batcrap nuts you were. sorry.

Between Trump and Biden, only Trump has broken the law...numerous times.
 
No. I am concerned who is coming and the number. Illegal immigration does have negative impacts on U.S. citizens, especially the working class. Also, I want to add more doctors, engineers, and professionals. Most of those immigrants aren’t crossing the border illegally.

Here's the thing......the test should be whether immigration/illegal immigration benefits those already here. Favoring illegals over our own citizens for political power or because of the immigrants' circumstances
is pretty Fed up, absent agreement from the citizenry.

Targeting certain professionals for legal immigration has been abused. The clearest example is the Tech H1B Visa. Driving down costs to the tech giants is abuse of immigration law, as is letting in millions of unskilled laborers. We need a balanced system of legal immigration, but politics makes that impossible now.
 
You might disagree with his implementation of the law, but it's still false for Mo or his favorite Twitter blowhard to describe these people as illegals or inadmissibles (or even as secret illegal voters, as some other dipshits are doing).
Whatever stupid semantic game you’re attempting to play is really embarrassing for you.

Biden flew these people in. End of story. It’s an abuse of law.

I’ve lost quite a bit of respect for you watching you be an apologist for the border disaster.
 
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Here's the thing......the test should be whether immigration/illegal immigration benefits those already here. Favoring illegals over our own citizens for political power or because of the immigrants' circumstances
is pretty Fed up, absent agreement from the citizenry.

Targeting certain professionals for legal immigration has been abused. The clearest example is the Tech H1B Visa. Driving down costs to the tech giants is abuse of immigration law, as is letting in millions of unskilled laborers. We need a balanced system of legal immigration, but politics makes that impossible now.

Allowing immigrants into the country is favoring them over people already here?

No one knows the politics of the immigrants. Are you saying we should ask each one whether they like Biden or Trump better and only allow them in equal numbers? lmao

Unless they become citizens, then they can't vote anyway...at least in federal elections
 
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Allowing immigrants into the country is favoring them over people already here?

No one knows the politics of the immigrants. Are you saying we should ask each one whether they like Biden or Trump better and only allow them in equal numbers? lmao

Unless they become citizens, then they can't vote anyway...at least in federal elections
What if they marry a U.S. citizen? What if they have children? What if they build a family life that looks sympathetic to an immigration judge?

The idea that the people coming across the border are not voters or future voters is complete horseshit. You like to roll around in the horseshit don’t you sport?
 
What if they marry a U.S. citizen? What if they have children? What if they build a family life that looks sympathetic to an immigration judge?

The idea that the people coming across the border are not voters or future voters is complete horseshit. You like to roll around in the horseshit don’t you sport?
oh my God, what if these people have a happy life? It would be the end of the world as we know it. Although I thought they were murderers and rapists...but now you're worried they will get married and live the American dream? lol

What if a judge shows empathy? gasp there goes our country. the sky is falling.

what if they move in next door to me? I better go buy another gun.
 
Sure way to reduce/stop illegal immigration: Significant jail time for CEOs and other top management officials whose companies hire said immigrant. Say one month for every one hired.

No effing way congress would pass such a bill.
 
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oh my God, what if these people have a happy life? It would be the end of the world as we know it.

What if a judge shows empathy? gasp there goes our country. the sky is falling.

what if they move in next door to me? I better go buy another gun.
Non-responsive clown.

You were already moved off the ball from claiming they aren’t voters to saying “who cares if they are, they’re good people”.

The quality of their character or family is immaterial unless you suggest anyone who purports to be a good person should have free entry to the U.S.

You have no principles and no ability to reason. It sometimes angers me how dumb you are.
 
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The program has been abused by every administration since it was passed, with the exception of Trump, who tried to greatly rein it in.

But never to the extent to which Biden has abused it. He’s brought in a million of these people since January of 2023. The next highest number I could find was 300,000 in 1990.

It’s a way for Biden to circumvent immigration laws. And he’s taking advantage of it.
Just like he circumvents the SC ruling against forgiving student loans.

If the SC rules against Presidential immunity, I hope some state AG bring a criminal charge against Biden after he's out of office for violating the Constitution, thus violating his oath of office - something the Republican House should be doing today via impeachment.
 
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If our concern is that we have too many immigrants, then can we at least stop pretending to care how they got here?
It’s that we are letting in millions of the wrong type of people. The simpletons will believe it is bc they are brown but in truth it’s changing the makeup of the country by adding more people in need of gov aid when we already have millions.

A jaded person will say biden set to expand the social safety net and gov and what better way to do same.

Finally our gov already discriminates based on how appealing we deem people by way of the EB-5 program
 
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It’s that we are letting in millions of the wrong type of people. The simpletons will believe it is bc they are brown but in truth it’s changing the makeup of the country by adding more people in need of gov aid when we already have millions.

A jaded person will say biden set to expand the social safety net and gov and what better way to do same.

Finally our gov already discriminates based on how appealing we deem people by way of the EB-5 program

TDS had made the Dems go bonkers with poor public policy choices. From immigration policy to criminal justice policy. The period from about 2018-2023 was just a laundry list of poorly thought out ideas driven by ideological wackadoodles within the Dem party apparatus.

Now they are desperately trying to walk a lot of poor choices back.



Big blue cities are embracing conservative anti-crime measures. Here’s why.
San Francisco, Washington and New York City are among the municipalities where policymakers are backing harsher policies.

 
TDS had made the Dems go bonkers with poor public policy choices. From immigration policy to criminal justice policy. The period from about 2018-2023 was just a laundry list of poorly thought out ideas driven by ideological wackadoodles within the Dem party apparatus.

Now they are desperately trying to walk a lot of poor choices back.



Big blue cities are embracing conservative anti-crime measures. Here’s why.
San Francisco, Washington and New York City are among the municipalities where policymakers are backing harsher policies.

Exactly. If they walk them back and make it a vocal part of their campaign it cuts off a significant part of the Republicans’ narrative
 
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It’s that we are letting in millions of the wrong type of people. The simpletons will believe it is bc they are brown but in truth it’s changing the makeup of the country by adding more people in need of gov aid when we already have millions.

A jaded person will say biden set to expand the social safety net and gov and what better way to do same.

Finally our gov already discriminates based on how appealing we deem people by way of the EB-5 program
Okay, then. Let's be honest about that.

This entire thread was started with a cynically dishonest tweet. I'm sick of the cynically dishonest discussions. Let's have a real discussion about immigration.
 
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Okay, then. Let's be honest about that.

This entire thread was started with a cynically dishonest tweet. I'm sick of the cynically dishonest discussions. Let's have a real discussion about immigration.
You are not open to real discussion about immigration as long as you insist the border problem is a product of lack of legislation. And that Biden’s overturning of Trump policy is immaterial.

As long as you do that, you’re just posturing.
 
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