Beard

[Pryght]

What if she attacked him first?

Even if she attacked him first, it doesn’t justify his alleged response. Strangulation (from behind), biting, and hitting, as reported in the police account, are excessive and disproportionate. Self-defense is meant to neutralize a threat, not escalate to what amounts to assault. What’s more, the physical evidence—the bruises and bite marks observed by police—aligns with her original report, not with a scenario where he was simply defending himself.

 

[dbmhoosier]

I don’t know why anyone brings up Beard. Our administration would never hire him in a million years.

 

[Vern Pain]

I remember Perry, the former governor of Texas, described Austin as The blueberry in the red tomato soup.

That's the guy who took to wearing glasses because it

Who says it’s for the better? Take a stroll past Peoples Park. Well maybe not stroll, better stay in your car and keep moving. That’s not better than when I graduated in 1980.

Walked past peoples park today. What's your issue? In the Summer, every Thursday afternoon there's a free concert there. We often stop for an hour of that, then walk down Kirkwood to have dinner at Goodfellas or Fat Dan's.

 

[Vern Pain]

I don’t know why anyone brings up Beard. Our administration would never hire him in a million years.

Exactly. Now when is somebody going to bring up Alford? There hasn't been an Alford thread in months.

 

[CriticArisen]

Even if she attacked him first, it doesn’t justify his alleged response. Strangulation (from behind), biting, and hitting, as reported in the police account, are excessive and disproportionate. Self-defense is meant to neutralize a threat, not escalate to what amounts to assault. What’s more, the physical evidence—the bruises and bite marks observed by police—aligns with her original report, not with a scenario where he was simply defending himself.

His report states that she was trying to hit him in the privates and he stopped her from doing so. This was after she acknowledged initiating the encounter by grabbing his glasses out of his hand and smashing them. On her assault victim report she indicated shallow breathing for about 5 seconds during the “strangulation” but the police did not note any signs of strangulation on her neck.

 

[Pryght]

His report states that she was trying to hit him in the privates and he stopped her from doing so. This was after she acknowledged initiating the encounter by grabbing his glasses out of his hand and smashing them. On her assault victim report she indicated shallow breathing for about 5 seconds during the “strangulation” but the police did not note any signs of strangulation on her neck.

 

[CriticArisen]

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Yes, I have read it and hence my last comments.

His statement is a separate document.

 

[Pryght]

Yes, I have read it and hence my last comments.

Choking

• Placed his arm around her neck from behind, impeding her ability to breathe for approximately 5 seconds.

• The victim reported feeling unable to move or do anything during the choking.

Throwing

• Threw her off the bed onto the floor.

• Dragged her back onto the bed, causing additional injuries.

Biting

• Bit her right forearm, leaving visible teeth marks and redness.

Slapping

• Slapped the glasses off her face.

Intimidation

• Moved his face within inches of hers after choking her, described as aggressive and threatening behavior.

Left her with visible injuries, including:

• A bite mark on her forearm.

• Abrasions to her right eyebrow/temple area.

• Abrasions and bruises on her left leg (from her knee to her foot).

• A cut on her left thumb, which was bleeding.

Look, if you find these actions acceptable, it’s clear we were raised with very different values. If someone did these things to my mother, sister, or daughter, it would undeniably cross a line. But that’s just me. It’s also clear that we’re not going to see eye to eye on this, so there’s no point in revisiting previous arguments or continuing a circular debate.

 

[CriticArisen]

Choking

• Placed his arm around her neck from behind, impeding her ability to breathe for approximately 5 seconds.

• The victim reported feeling unable to move or do anything during the choking.

Throwing

• Threw her off the bed onto the floor.

• Dragged her back onto the bed, causing additional injuries.

Biting

• Bit her right forearm, leaving visible teeth marks and redness.

Slapping

• Slapped the glasses off her face.

Intimidation

• Moved his face within inches of hers after choking her, described as aggressive and threatening behavior.

Left her with visible injuries, including:

• A bite mark on her forearm.

• Abrasions to her right eyebrow/temple area.

• Abrasions and bruises on her left leg (from her knee to her foot).

• A cut on her left thumb, which was bleeding.

Look, if you find these actions acceptable, it’s clear we were raised with very different values. If someone did these things to my mother, sister, or daughter, it would undeniably cross a line. But that’s just me. It’s also clear that we’re not going to see eye to eye on this, so there’s no point in revisiting previous arguments or continuing a circular debate.

Sorry but ridiculous to accuse me of unethical upbringing when all of my statements are factual. She admittedly initiated the situation and he claims he was restraining her as she tried to hit him in the privates. Her ASV further indicates shallow breathing breathing during the “strangulation” of 5 seconds that is consistent with restraining her rather than strangling her. I consider ethical behavior and judicious upbringing to provide consideration that both parties statements should be evaluated and all the evidence considered. This was the case with the Prosecutor in Austin and he determined reasonable prosecution not possible. You must question his upbringing if you apply the same standards.

 

[trailrunner]

I believe Mississippi plays Louisville this week. Ole Miss has lost one game to Purdue by a bucket. My research indicates a 3.5 million buyout for Beard to exit his contract after this season. I would hope Dolson interviews the man. Even coach Norman Dale got a second chance!

 

[trailrunner]

Choking

• Placed his arm around her neck from behind, impeding her ability to breathe for approximately 5 seconds.

• The victim reported feeling unable to move or do anything during the choking.

Throwing

• Threw her off the bed onto the floor.

• Dragged her back onto the bed, causing additional injuries.

Biting

• Bit her right forearm, leaving visible teeth marks and redness.

Slapping

• Slapped the glasses off her face.

Intimidation

• Moved his face within inches of hers after choking her, described as aggressive and threatening behavior.

Left her with visible injuries, including:

• A bite mark on her forearm.

• Abrasions to her right eyebrow/temple area.

• Abrasions and bruises on her left leg (from her knee to her foot).

• A cut on her left thumb, which was bleeding.

Look, if you find these actions acceptable, it’s clear we were raised with very different values. If someone did these things to my mother, sister, or daughter, it would undeniably cross a line. But that’s just me. It’s also clear that we’re not going to see eye to eye on this, so there’s no point in revisiting previous arguments or continuing a circular debate.

You are assuming these are facts.

 

[JBT Assoc]

I'd go after Pearl and have him get the ship righted and then bring in a young talent behind him.

That was the plan in hiring Woodson.

I’d prefer IU hire a guy who could be great for 10-15 years. (Though I’d take Pearl, for as long as he’s up to it.)

 

[trailrunner]

Yeah, he'd be like 85.

But what's your point? The world has evolved over the last 50 years or so, and for the better.

In some ways perhaps but many things have gotten worse.

 

[JBT Assoc]

She decided it was probably better to say she lied than her husband lose his very lucrative career. Case closed.

This is my belief.

 

[Harpo Marxist]

To the detractors of Beard......If he is guilty, he's guilty. And, if he's innocent, he's guilty? Got it.

 

[hozo4ultimate]

This is my belief.

Honey, I am really sorry about what happened. Our attorney is here, he wants to talk about a couple of things.

 

[JBT Assoc]

It will be the biggest name possible. That's why I'm certain that none of my picks will be considered.

Not necessarily - Dolson scored with his unknown football hire, he could go the same route in BB.

 

[trailrunner]

Not necessarily - Dolson scored with his unknown football hire, he could go the same route in BB.

That’s how we got RMK.

 

[JBT Assoc]

Honey, I am really sorry about what happened. Our attorney is here, he wants to talk about a couple of things.

Namely….my ability to earn a great living in the future. 😳

 

[Hank Reardon]

Wrong. No reason he can’t. Bball is an easier hire. We have the big resources, we just need someone who can use them effectively.

If you don’t think we can hire a good coach, give up, you’re not really an IU fan anyway.

Yeah. I mean, it's not as if we have a near 25 year history of being unable to hire a good basketball coach, or anything like that.

 

[Tammany Hall]

Yeah. I mean, it's not as if we have a near 25 year history of being unable to hire a good basketball coach, or anything like that.

We all know this. What’s your point?

The search committee that hired Davis is not here. Herbert is not here. Glass is not here. Quinn is done next year. Maybe, if left alone to do his job, Scott can get the bball hire right. It’s not impossible.

 

[Hank Reardon]

We all know this. What’s your point?

The search committee that hired Davis is not here. Herbert is not here. Glass is not here. Quinn is done next year. Maybe, if left alone to do his job, Scott can get the bball hire right. It’s not impossible.

My point is that you’re suggesting that anyone skeptical of the program’s likelihood of making a good hire is somehow not a True Fan when we’ve hired 5 crappy ones in a row. Multiple AD’s, multiple administrations, multiple everything. Yet zero success. But we’re supposed to be wildly optimistic now?

Someday when we make another coaching change I hope we get it right. But until we do I’ll remain less than convinced.

 

[Tammany Hall]

My point is that you’re suggesting that anyone skeptical of the program’s likelihood of making a good hire is somehow not a True Fan when we’ve hired 5 crappy ones in a row. Multiple AD’s, multiple administrations, multiple everything. Yet zero success. But we’re supposed to be wildly optimistic now?

Someday when we make another coaching change I hope we get it right. But until we do I’ll remain less than convinced.

No, that's not what I'm suggesting. I'm simply saying it's possible we hire a good coach, and if someone doesn't think it's possible, there isn't much point to following IUBB.

Skepticism and concern is fine. I'm worried about donors and maybe trustees get involved again -- admin/trustees/donors meddling with the hire (it's the AD's job) is a common thread over the last 25 years of bad hires. I'm also worried Scott might just get it wrong. But maybe he gets it right, he did a good job with football. That would be great. We're likely not going anywhere with Woody unfortunately.

 

[jet812]

The coach we could have all gotten onboard with passed away 2 months ago on the operating room table (or soon thereafter) down in South Florida. He would have been a perfect choice.
I really have no idea what the AD/BOT will come up with.

Who?

 

[BradStevens]

Even if she attacked him first, it doesn’t justify his alleged response. Strangulation (from behind), biting, and hitting, as reported in the police account, are excessive and disproportionate. Self-defense is meant to neutralize a threat, not escalate to what amounts to assault. What’s more, the physical evidence—the bruises and bite marks observed by police—aligns with her original report, not with a scenario where he was simply defending himself.

She says she did. Do you think that impossible? The report I read said he tried to subdue her with his arm around her neck, not his hands. It’s possible that’s not disproportionate. I don’t know.

Of course, now that you’re falling back on proportionate vs. disproportionate, you’ve made the case for this being something none of us can really know without more.

FWIW, I went to UT and have a lot of friends still in Austin in the legal field. It’s pretty well known down there that Beard and his fiancé both had a drinking problem.

 

[stollcpa]

People's Park (Kirkwood & Dunn) or Seminary Park (2nd & Walnut/College)?

2nd and Walnut/College is what I am referring too. World Food is across street. I guess I am referring to Seminary as People’s. My wife and I call it People’s Park when we drive by. I stand corrected on name.

 

[stollcpa]

Even if she attacked him first, it doesn’t justify his alleged response. Strangulation (from behind), biting, and hitting, as reported in the police account, are excessive and disproportionate. Self-defense is meant to neutralize a threat, not escalate to what amounts to assault. What’s more, the physical evidence—the bruises and bite marks observed by police—aligns with her original report, not with a scenario where he was simply defending himself.

You have no idea what the physical evidence is.

 

[steelyvan]

Who?

Amir Abdul-Rahim at U South Florida.
Built Kennesaw State and USF into tourney teams in a New York minute.