That is all in the past and some of it WAY in the past.
You didn't answer my other two questions.
Are we in store for a Archie style losing streak?
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That is all in the past and some of it WAY in the past.
You didn't answer my other two questions.
Blue bloods don’t accept second rate NIT bids of such low quality. It would be too demeaning with nothing to gain in doing so. IU will gladly accept a bid if granted one.
Don't be naive. RMK was fired because he was no longer winning at the same level and his abrasive personally wasn't insulated by his success.
Plain and simple.
He wasn't winning B1G titles anymore and if you look at his NCAA lack of success after Calbert/Damon's group left, it was pretty horrible. He lost in the first round of the NCAA tournament nearly every year, sometimes in resounding fashion.
Carsen Edwards was the Edwards I was referring to. I never thought Vince Edwards was all that great. Mentally weak, for sure.
I likely got the order mixed up though.
yeah from 1995 on, the program and RMK himself were not the same. Anyone who refuses to admit that was not watching with objective eyes. Burger boys were fleeing the program. Other high ranked recruits were not panning out. The ship was leaking. It was painful to accept, but it slowly became obvious.
They do, but even Edey wasn't Edey for a couple years. It takes time for a big guy to develop and Edey has turned out to be pretty damn athletic for a big man.
Without Edey, PU isn't even an average team.
I was impressed Edey goes to the floor for a loose ball while Ware just stands and watches. That's embarrassing.
Pretty certain Knight last made a Sweet Sixteen at IU in 1994 beating Ohio and Temple, the latter game when Sherron Wilkerson had spiral fracture of his leg.
No. Sparks was 2nd Team All MAC and he is like a bull in a china shop out there. Great guy and I love his enthusiasm, but he's worse than useless on the court. He's not alone there, but if that's what MAC teams are like, it's no insult.
You're like the people who thought TJD would not make an NBA impact.
What a stupid comment.
And yet he put together the 2002 FF team.
What 'Burger boys' who fled the program did anything after they left?
they didn't do much...hell 2 of them died early and the third almost died. The entire era may have been cursed. (granted I can't remember if they were all 'burger boys").
and we'll never know if that squad would have even sniffed the F4 if RMK were still here.
Does he get the pink slip if we go 6-14 in B1G play? Or 8-12? I'm struggling to find more than 2 or 3 more wins this year.
I would hope so BUT that is one of the issues when you hire a legendary player as coach!
So please educate us, old wise one!
Where do you stand RIGHT NOW and please don't bring up ancient history?
Should CMW be shown the door?
Let me try to make it even clearer for you- I DONT THINK COACH WOODSON SHOULD BE RETAINED. AS COACH OF IU, old something one.
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I have better things to do then play patty cake on a message board with d##ches that add nothing original and post like tough guys.
I'm saying....we'll never know. Not defending CMD and how his career at IU turned out. Just saying, the last 5-6 yrs of RMK wasn't a good vibe here either. So no telling what would have happened. Maybe Jeffries transfers after a season...maybe Coverdale doesn't develop. Maybe FIfe started hitting from outside because he was no longer afraid to shoot. Maybe these kids played better and looser because CMD wasn't RMK. Who knows. It's all speculative.
Pull Buckner off the board and make his ass sit on the bench and help out, lol. This is his baby too.
He should not get another year but he will get it. We all know how this ends. Buckner isn't letting his buddy get fired.
Damon was on that team. Hence why I said, "After Calbert/Damon's group left..."
Unless he chooses to retire (which I could see—he can't be enjoying this), I'd be very surprised. He's getting at least 4 years before his seat heats up.
There were some really dismal tournament efforts in that era. Pepperdine, BC, and Colorado were some of the worst IU tournament games I've ever seen. The St. Johns loss was awful as well.
Yeah. One year RMK had the same kind of issue that this year's team had - a lack of guards. I remember him trying to play Charlie Miller at guard out of necessity. Oof!
Recker did pretty well at Iowa, I think. He averaged over 17 a game over a couple of years and I remember him having a monster B1G tourney one year.
I can't recall Reed or Collier really doing anything after leaving IU though.
Were there any other Burger Boys who left during that period? My memory isn't what it used to be, I'll admit...
I think that was the 3 I was referring to...but 3 in just a couple yrs time.
And not really fair to ask "what did Collier do after he left", because he was the 15th pick in the 2000 draft.
Andre Patterson was always the biggest mystery to me during that era. His last 7-8 games his Sr year, he played like a man possessed and averaged 20/10. He had a hard time playing for RMK. Kid was just too nice and soft spoken. And times were changing.
Fair point about Collier.
I looked it up, and to my surprise, he averaged 17 points a game over 2 years in his post-IU career. I had completely missed that.
GA Tech correct?
My memory of him is that of a true 7 footer who seemed more interested in developing his 3 pt shot than his inside game. In 1997 that was crazy thinking. Today, it's the standard.
Maybe, but doubt Fife has effed up as bad as X, & he’s keeping him around. More than likely he wants his NBA guys
What coach was fired for rough language?
He f’ed up bad enough that other coaches have backed away. Don’t need to rehash this. It’s been 2 years.
Edey's stats from the 21/22 season are pretty in-line with how the standard Purdue big guy performs stat-wise.
So taking all of the years from 2005/6 to 21/22 (17 years) that Painter has been HC, he's had exactly 4 seasons where they have finished outside the top 4 (and one of those was his first year when he inherited a 7-21 team)
MAYBE, next year will be that 1-in-5 chance that they are average-to-bad, but bear in mind that he has done this with a grand total of one 5 star player over that time. He has a top 10 class coming in next year with a borderline 5 star player (Catchings).
I think the odds of Purdue being in the top 4 next year are still pretty good.
RMK amassed enemies through the years due to his lack of a diplomatic demeanor. It was a contributing factor to the outcome.
