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Anyone know why DeVonte is not going to Northwestern with the team?

Anyone hoping he leaves in hopes that it helps our team is completely misinformed. We’re already thin at guard and he’s one of our better playmakers. How in the world would this help? Especially next year.

And anyone wishing ill will against a 21 year old is a complete loser. Have some class.

Really? He is gone and have not seen anyone wishing ill will against him. Another one of your straw man arguments.
 
true, but only a matter until this gets challenged in court. maybe in pro sports or a corporate firing. get fired for testing positive for weed while working at home depot in colorado? let's see that one play out in court. eventually courts are companies are going to have to fall in line and get used to the idea that it is as legal as beer now
Not likely to happen.
Any addiction can be met with a 30 day rehab that the company may provide, and any mistep during or after that will provide them with the legal authority to just terminate your employment, backed by a higher power attorney than the individual could ever afford. If the company wants you and your problem gone, you're gone.
 
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Not likely to happen.
Any addiction can be met with a 30 day rehab that the company may provide, and any mistep during or after that will provide them with the legal authority to just terminate your employment, backed by a higher power attorney than the individual could ever afford. If the company wants you and your problem gone, you're gone.
what addiction are you talking about?
 
No. If a federal prosecutor wanted to charge you with possessing marijuana in Denver, they can do so. They just don't bother.

In the southern district of Indiana, they don't file possession on 100 pounds of it. They don't care. But it's still illegal--everywhere--by federal statute.
true, but that's not what we are talking about
 
Anyone hoping he leaves in hopes that it helps our team is completely misinformed. We’re already thin at guard and he’s one of our better playmakers. How in the world would this help? Especially next year.

And anyone wishing ill will against a 21 year old is a complete loser. Have some class.
If it opens up another scholarship for a guard then yes it helps. He hasn’t been very good for IU.
 
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what addiction are you talking about?
If you are caught with any illegal substance during a random drug test, it is considered an addiction and you may have the choice of rehab or having your employment terminated. There is no labor union to cry foul to. You obey company policies or be terminated.
 
true, but only a matter until this gets challenged in court. maybe in pro sports or a corporate firing. get fired for testing positive for weed while working at home depot in colorado? let's see that one play out in court. eventually courts are companies are going to have to fall in line and get used to the idea that it is as legal as beer now
(1) Playing college basketball on scholarship is a very different legal status than employment; the scholarship player has to act in accordance with the rules - reasonable rules - that are imposed by the school.

(2) The Home Depot guy in Colorado? His claim would almost certainly be toast. I know of no legal protection based on recreational drug protections.* He almost certainly would be an employee at will, which means that his employment could be terminated for any reason, or no reason at all, except those that are explicitly prohibited by applicable law, which typically means only those classifications that are protected by federal or state statute, or by a local ordinance.

*We could go over to the Cooler and ask CoH, who is a long-time attorney in Colorado. He's never mentioned any protections for employees who smoke pot on their own time . . . .
 
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If it opens up another scholarship for a guard then yes it helps. He hasn’t been very good for IU.
If he failed a drug test then Green did this to himself, by his own choice of action. He let the team and his coaching staff down. Poor decisions have consequences.
 
During the work day.
I never push it, all my managers are ex-military. They are humorless.
You might want to check with your employment attorney . . . if the beer is consumed pursuant to alcohol dependency then the employee might have a disability claim. Unlikely, but it's been done before.
 
If it opens up another scholarship for a guard then yes it helps. He hasn’t been very good for IU.
Well that freshman guard would have to be better than senior Green. How many of those are we recruiting?
 
true, but only a matter until this gets challenged in court. maybe in pro sports or a corporate firing. get fired for testing positive for weed while working at home depot in colorado? let's see that one play out in court. eventually courts are companies are going to have to fall in line and get used to the idea that it is as legal as beer now
Not a chance courts will rule like you said.

It's also "legal" to skip class in college, turn in the minimum number and quality of assignments and be on track with barely enough credits to graduate with the lowest acceptable GPA possible .........if you pay your own way.

On the other hand, if you voluntarily agree to receive a scholarship, room and board, tutoring and medical care for playing sports, the NCAA is free to impose some additional requirements, and that's "legal" too.
 
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true, but only a matter until this gets challenged in court. maybe in pro sports or a corporate firing. get fired for testing positive for weed while working at home depot in colorado? let's see that one play out in court. eventually courts are companies are going to have to fall in line and get used to the idea that it is as legal as beer now

You can't be under the influence of beer while working at home depot either. lol
 
He's 4th in points, 4th in rebounds, 1st in assists, second in steals. But if you think he is a slacker dragging down the team's effort it could be a good subtraction.
 
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During the work day.
I never push it, all my managers are ex-military. They are humorless.

Are they still upset about the Christmas party a few years back where you brought the hooker and blow? I told you, you should have shared.
 
If you are caught with any illegal substance during a random drug test, it is considered an addiction and you may have the choice of rehab or having your employment terminated. There is no labor union to cry foul to. You obey company policies or be terminated.
doesn't make it right or even remotely based on fact. we can start with you can not get physically addicted to marijuana. unlike legal alcohol
 
(1) Playing college basketball on scholarship is a very different legal status than employment; the scholarship player has to act in accordance with the rules - reasonable rules - that are imposed by the school.

(2) The Home Depot guy in Colorado? His claim would almost certainly be toast. I know of no legal protection based on recreational drug protections.* He almost certainly would be an employee at will, which means that his employment could be terminated for any reason, or no reason at all, except those that are explicitly prohibited by applicable law, which typically means only those classifications that are protected by federal or state statute, or by a local ordinance.

*We could go over to the Cooler and ask CoH, who is a long-time attorney in Colorado. He's never mentioned any protections for employees who smoke pot on their own time . . . .
as i previously said, in my opinion they are coming. the wheels of justice turn slowly. is that the expression? and in our country, the justice system is irredeemably corrupt so justice and what is fair and right don't come into play. all i'm saying is eventually the court challenge is coming and after several failed lawsuits state legislators will change laws to protect people engaged in legal activities. don't forget, airlines used to be able to fire women for being pregnant or even 10 lbs overweight
 
that's different. you are now talking about drinking on the clock

Under the employment-at-will doctrine, an employer can generally fire an employee for any reason or for no reason at all. However, employers cannot fire employees for reasons that would violate anti-discrimination laws. I don't think recreational weed smoking applies.
 
Under the employment-at-will doctrine, an employer can generally fire an employee for any reason or for no reason at all. However, employers cannot fire employees for reasons that would violate anti-discrimination laws. I don't think recreational weed smoking applies.
ok. how about this? an employee with a severe form of epilepsy takes prescription marijuana. tests positive. gets fired. now?
 
as i previously said, in my opinion they are coming. the wheels of justice turn slowly. is that the expression? and in our country, the justice system is irredeemably corrupt so justice and what is fair and right don't come into play. all i'm saying is eventually the court challenge is coming and after several failed lawsuits state legislators will change laws to protect people engaged in legal activities. don't forget, airlines used to be able to fire women for being pregnant or even 10 lbs overweight
Thank you for proving my point, with that comment about firing women. The legal protection for them is statutory.

How drunk are you?
 
Not a chance courts will rule like you said.

It's also "legal" to skip class in college, turn in the minimum number and quality of assignments and be on track with barely enough credits to graduate with the lowest acceptable GPA possible .........if you pay your own way.

On the other hand, if you voluntarily agree to receive a scholarship, room and board, tutoring and medical care for playing sports, the NCAA is free to impose some additional requirements, and that's "legal" too.
then why don't they test for alcohol because you are talking about a morality "clause"
 
ok. how about this? an employee with a severe form of epilepsy takes prescription marijuana. tests positive. gets fired. now?

what part about recreational did you not understand? My guess is if the employee has epilepsy it would fall under a "disability."
 
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Not a chance courts will rule like you said.

It's also "legal" to skip class in college, turn in the minimum number and quality of assignments and be on track with barely enough credits to graduate with the lowest acceptable GPA possible .........if you pay your own way.

On the other hand, if you voluntarily agree to receive a scholarship, room and board, tutoring and medical care for playing sports, the NCAA is free to impose some additional requirements, and that's "legal" too.
how would you feel if they imposed a ban on alcohol consumption of all athletes in all sports?
 
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