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Anyone hear anything on Bryan Haines to Penn State?

HurryingHoosiers said:
This is part of the reason why price of streaming and tv services rise almost annually now. Stations keep renegotiating higher prices that get passed on to us. Thus, even if you don't go to games, the have nots are paying more and more so the haves can get even more.

Guess we should be thankful we apparently have quite a few haves donating to our NIL.
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The TV money involved is insane. Obviously there's a ceiling there somewhere, but I doubt we've hit it yet.

In the mean time, someone has to get "the money". And I think football programs are realizing that coordinators and position coaches are just as important as players and head coaches...if not MORE important in many ways.
 
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IUNorth said:
The TV money involved is insane. Obviously there's a ceiling there somewhere, but I doubt we've hit it yet.

In the mean time, someone has to get "the money". And I think football programs are realizing that coordinators and position coaches are just as important as players and head coaches...if not MORE important in many ways.
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Only way there is a limit is when people in large numbers decide the price hike isn't worth it.
 
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HurryingHoosiers said:
Only way there is a limit is when people in large numbers decide the price hike isn't worth it.
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For sure...but at some point...that'll hit.

Also...how everyone consumes it could change. Blockbuster probably never dreamed their model would be a dinosaur as quickly as it became. Who knows how we'll all consume college sports 10 years from now. And what impacts that'll have on the money side of it?

My gut tells me all the TV and Streaming options, combined with some new VR type ways to experience the games (COSM Bar, Vegas Sphere)...will more and more take demand away from in person, stadium viewing. Maybe the top programs still pack their colossal stadiums, but I bet ticket prices decline over time.

Anyway...I doubt the revenue that's produced goes down any time soon...and again, they have to use that money somewhere. Coordinators are a pretty good return on investment, in my opinion.
 
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Bowlmania said:
In an earlier post (24), I said the claim that Haines was leaving IU to become Franklin’s/PSU’s DC was bullshit. I guess it’s possible he interviewed (increases your value to your current employer) but I’ve seen no credible evidence/reporting of that.

In any event, things are stable in Hoosier Nation and the future is bright.

Go Hoosiers!
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Things are stable at the moment.

I'm not guessing when I said he interviewed. He didn't do it for leverage though... he had already signed his new contract with us. He did it because it's Penn State, who is constantly in the playoff picture year after year.

This will be something that we have to get use to. We've got good coaches that other teams will want. That's a very good thing.
 
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IUNorth said:
For sure...but at some point...that'll hit.

Also...how everyone consumes it could change. Blockbuster probably never dreamed their model would be a dinosaur as quickly as it became. Who knows how we'll all consume college sports 10 years from now. And what impacts that'll have on the money side of it?

My gut tells me all the TV and Streaming options, combined with some new VR type ways to experience the games (COSM Bar, Vegas Sphere)...will more and more take demand away from in person, stadium viewing. Maybe the top programs still pack their colossal stadiums, but I bet ticket prices decline over time.

Anyway...I doubt the revenue that's produced goes down any time soon...and again, they have to use that money somewhere. Coordinators are a pretty good return on investment, in my opinion.
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We need COSM Bars everywhere! Those look cool as shit!
 
Bowlmania said:
In an earlier post (24), I said the claim that Haines was leaving IU to become Franklin’s/PSU’s DC was bullshit. I guess it’s possible he interviewed (increases your value to your current employer) but I’ve seen no credible evidence/reporting of that.

In any event, things are stable in Hoosier Nation and the future is bright.

Go Hoosiers!
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Wonder if he interviews for the ND DC job?
 
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Baller23Boogie said:
Things are stable at the moment.

I'm not guessing when I said he interviewed. He didn't do it for leverage though... he had already signed his new contract with us. He did it because it's Penn State, who is constantly in the playoff picture year after year.

This will be something that we have to get use to. We've got good coaches that other teams will want. That's a very good thing.
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I believe you. You’re a good/serious poster. I just don’t get it. Unless it’s a money grab (Penn Statw is reportedly offering Knowles crazy money), what’s the allure? Yes, it’s Penn State. But Franklin’s rep is firmly entrenched as the guy who can’t win the big one. They’ve reached their ceiling. They made the final four because they had the easiest draw in the tournament (SMU at home, and Boise State). And the DC position there has been a revolving door.

Contrast that with IU. Haines has had a long, positive, and professional relationship with Cignetti. We had an historic season, a great D, and Haines was a Broyles Award finalist. He’ll be a head coach soon if he wants to be. And, most importantly, IU is an “emerging superpower” and an effing rocket ship! Who wouldn’t want to be along for the ride?!
 
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CC Mac said:
Wonder if he interviews for the ND DC job?
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Would be shocked if that hire isn't in-house. Mike Mickens is probably the club house leader for that gig.

Speaking of Notre Dame, an anonymous but highly accurate Twitter account is hinting that IU is in a good spot for two offensive lineman that recently started and transferred from ND; Rocco Spindler and Pat Coogan. Both are rated #1 and #3 IOL in the portal. Would be monumental to land both.
 
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Bowlmania said:
I believe you. You’re a good/serious poster. I just don’t get it. Unless it’s a money grab (Penn Statw is reportedly offering Knowles crazy money), what’s the allure? Yes, it’s Penn State. But Franklin’s rep is firmly entrenched as the guy who can’t win the big one. They’ve reached their ceiling. They made the final four because they had the easiest draw in the tournament (SMU at home, and Boise State). And the DC position there has been a revolving door.

Contrast that with IU. Haines has had a long, positive, and professional relationship with Cignetti. We had an historic season, a great D, and Haines was a Broyles Award finalist. He’ll be a head coach soon if he wants to be. And, most importantly, IU is an “emerging superpower” and an effing rocket ship! Who wouldn’t want to be along for the ride?!
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It's still Penn State, who is always in playoff talks, especially with it being at 12 teams.

We are definitely improving, but Penn State still has allure that coaches respect.
 
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Bowlmania said:
I believe you. You’re a good/serious poster. I just don’t get it. Unless it’s a money grab (Penn Statw is reportedly offering Knowles crazy money), what’s the allure? Yes, it’s Penn State. But Franklin’s rep is firmly entrenched as the guy who can’t win the big one. They’ve reached their ceiling. They made the final four because they had the easiest draw in the tournament (SMU at home, and Boise State). And the DC position there has been a revolving door.

Contrast that with IU. Haines has had a long, positive, and professional relationship with Cignetti. We had an historic season, a great D, and Haines was a Broyles Award finalist. He’ll be a head coach soon if he wants to be. And, most importantly, IU is an “emerging superpower” and an effing rocket ship! Who wouldn’t want to be along for the ride?!
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You are probably right and state the reasons he is staying put (at least for the moment).
 
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Bowlmania said:
I believe you. You’re a good/serious poster. I just don’t get it. Unless it’s a money grab (Penn Statw is reportedly offering Knowles crazy money), what’s the allure? Yes, it’s Penn State. But Franklin’s rep is firmly entrenched as the guy who can’t win the big one. They’ve reached their ceiling. They made the final four because they had the easiest draw in the tournament (SMU at home, and Boise State). And the DC position there has been a revolving door.

Contrast that with IU. Haines has had a long, positive, and professional relationship with Cignetti. We had an historic season, a great D, and Haines was a Broyles Award finalist. He’ll be a head coach soon if he wants to be. And, most importantly, IU is an “emerging superpower” and an effing rocket ship! Who wouldn’t want to be along for the ride?!
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Funny thing is....if Penn State does end up hiring Jim Knowles, we'll probably have to go through this again with Ohio State. Haines is an Ohio guy and sure someone they will at least express interest in.
 
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Bowlmania said:
I believe you. You’re a good/serious poster. I just don’t get it. Unless it’s a money grab (Penn Statw is reportedly offering Knowles crazy money), what’s the allure? Yes, it’s Penn State. But Franklin’s rep is firmly entrenched as the guy who can’t win the big one. They’ve reached their ceiling. They made the final four because they had the easiest draw in the tournament (SMU at home, and Boise State).
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Everyone can have an opinion.
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And the DC position there has been a revolving door.
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Before Allen, the previous two DCs moved on to become head coaches at P5 schools. Someone may consider the position a favorable stepping stone opportunity.
 
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Pazhoosier85 said:
Now do we have to worry about Haines to OSU?This never ends.
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Maybe. Haines might be short on experience for this sort of job? It’s a pressure cooker and I’ve heard their DL coach is pretty influential within the staff. Perhaps they poach someone from some other big program who has dealt with the tricky/challenging big program dynamics before. Idk.
 
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Knowles made a base salary of $2.2 million last season, and his compensation got close to $3 million with bonuses in the wake of Ohio State's national title run. The Buckeyes extended an offer to Knowles, sources told ESPN, that would have made him the highest-paid coordinator in the country, ahead of Michigan's Wink Martindale and LSU's Blake Baker, who are both set to earn $2.5 million next season.

Move to PSU for a push or maybe 10% over OSU offer? I am not moving to lesser program for a 10% move to a rival.
 
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Sonap said:
Knowles made a base salary of $2.2 million last season, and his compensation got close to $3 million with bonuses in the wake of Ohio State's national title run. The Buckeyes extended an offer to Knowles, sources told ESPN, that would have made him the highest-paid coordinator in the country, ahead of Michigan's Wink Martindale and LSU's Blake Baker, who are both set to earn $2.5 million next season.

Move to PSU for a push or maybe 10% over OSU offer? I am not moving to lesser program for a 10% move to a rival.
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Apparently he's a Philadelphia boy. That might matter.
 
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Sonap said:
Knowles made a base salary of $2.2 million last season, and his compensation got close to $3 million with bonuses in the wake of Ohio State's national title run. The Buckeyes extended an offer to Knowles, sources told ESPN, that would have made him the highest-paid coordinator in the country, ahead of Michigan's Wink Martindale and LSU's Blake Baker, who are both set to earn $2.5 million next season.

Move to PSU for a push or maybe 10% over OSU offer? I am not moving to lesser program for a 10% move to a rival.
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It’s not a secret that Knowles and Larry Johnson didn’t get along. Larry was upset with the lack of pressure the DL was getting in Knowles scheme. Supposedly Knowles was pissed that Day sided with LJ. He was going somewhere, whether it was OU or Penn St.
 
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rrdd2021 said:
This 100%
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What is ironic about this is the fact that LJ was right. The defense did a 180 after their bye week. Knowles to his credit made adjustments on how they used Caleb Downs and let LJ have his way with the DL.

Knowles is a weird guy. Not CTA weird but very reserved. From my understanding, he doesn’t leave his office or interact with staff. His players seem to like him though. He immediately turned OSU’s D around though. His first year did come with growing pains so I don’t expect Penn St’s D to become 2024 OSU D over night. They don’t have a Caleb Downs on their roster. (Well, not yet anyway, anything is possible with the portal).
 
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