Anyone hear anything on Bryan Haines to Penn State?
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Saying 'interviewed' doesn't sound great. 
Well, I'm guessing he'll stay unless they offer can't refuse level money. If they talk way over 2 mil? Like 2.5+ . He should listen. Doesn't mean he'll go. But Penn State is always going to be loaded with talent and NIL money for football. Good spot for a coordinator. Doubt Franklin is going anywhere soon. And even if he does you won't hurt yourself if you've done well there.
We'll get a good one if he leaves. But I hope he stays. He's good. And I hate the players to have to learn new schemes and terminology, that could be setback for a year or two. And could easily hurt recruiting this year since the new guy wouldn't have been in on the relationship building yet.
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Well, I'm guessing he'll stay unless they offer can't refuse level money. If they talk way over 2 mil? Like 2.5+ . He should listen. Doesn't mean he'll go. But Penn State is always going to be loaded with talent and NIL money for football. Good spot for a coordinator. Doubt Franklin is going anywhere soon. And even if he does you won't hurt yourself if you've done well there.
We'll get a good one if he leaves. But I hope he stays. He's good. And I hate the players to have to learn new schemes and terminology, that could be setback for a year or two. And could easily hurt recruiting this year since the new guy wouldn't have been in on the relationship building yet.
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Agree with "doesn't sound great." Just read an article on a Penn State site talking all about it. Touting our #2 defense and CFP run. Nittany Sports Now if interested. Didn't get a good vibe. Sucks
I get Penn State is a big program and he would get to coach players that have more athleticism/potential. There is more pressure and career risk there, but he may be up for it. State College is pretty crappy, but a football guy probably doesn't care.
The money probably isn't that different, he's had huge pay increases since coming to IU. I was hoping he was part of the core staff that would keep building here and eventually he would take a HC job and that would be cool.
Who knows. Maybe he is tired of Cignetti, I don't know everything behind the scenes.
Bright side is we have a lot of $ to poach our next DC if he leaves.
The money probably isn't that different, he's had huge pay increases since coming to IU. I was hoping he was part of the core staff that would keep building here and eventually he would take a HC job and that would be cool.
Who knows. Maybe he is tired of Cignetti, I don't know everything behind the scenes.
Bright side is we have a lot of $ to poach our next DC if he leaves.
There is a lot of speculation when a team is successful as IU, but we have no idea what IU's assistant coaches want to do.
What confuses me is how many coaches this guys loses. Also, outside of Manny Diaz, who was already a high level coach, none is his assistants have gotten head coaching jobs.
Word is he's been interviewed along with the safeties coach for the Cleveland Browns, who has ties to Diaz, the former DC, and is an up and comer. These seems like correct rumors. Latest on PSU site is that Franklin is in LA talking with the present USC DC. Don't know if that is accurate.
I know the fans really want that guy. I think he comes from the PSU family.
have to give the fans what they want
Yes....but Diaz left for HC position, and the story is that Allen left to be closer to his adult daughters, who both reside in that region. Also, he kept the old OC for a couple of years after the whole fanbase wanted him gone.
Things I've read from USC people is that the DC there is interested in the PSU job.
Apparently he was just doing his top 5 teams and that was his way of saying IU and Penn State were tied at 4/5
Penn St and Texas will both end the season ranked ahead of IU.
We should come in at 6 or 7 which would be an amazing accomplishment for year one.
IU had a great season and should be in the top five but I believe what you said CC Mac.
Actually, at least three other PSU assistants left for HC jobs: Joe Moorhead, OC, hired as HC at Miss St; Brent Pry, DC, hired as HC at Virginia Tech; and Ricky Rahne, OC, hired as HC for Old Dominion. That's 4 HC jobs (including Diaz) from the James Franklin coaching tree.
I thought we were better than PSU, but if I was an independent voter I'd vote PSU over IU given the SMU & Boise St. beatdowns.
Cig doesn't look at ranking. He's just stating the facts according to Cig.
It would piss me off if I was Coach Cig and gave a guy that big a raise to put the off-season issues to bed and dig into next season's training, but then the guy interviews anyway.
I'm sure Cig is all about his guys growing and getting opportunity, he knows their goals, so I'm sure he allows them to interview. Can't just talk the talk.
But still...
Then again, interviews can't really happen until the off season so what can anyone do.
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I'm sure Cig is all about his guys growing and getting opportunity, he knows their goals, so I'm sure he allows them to interview. Can't just talk the talk.
But still...
Then again, interviews can't really happen until the off season so what can anyone do.
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Haines could have said he wanted to look at his options before signing.
Apparently there is no downside to signing because other schools will just pay the buyout as needed.
If he doesn't get it atleast now you know you have a guy that will take a lateral move regardless of how you treat him. So if I was cig the pay raises would stop and I would make sure I would always have an updated list going for his replacement. I just wish we had one more year of stability.
Regardless, coach cig will get an awesome replacement. Hell, the guy coach cig had as his DC before this guy is now the DC at Miami.
Regardless, coach cig will get an awesome replacement. Hell, the guy coach cig had as his DC before this guy is now the DC at Miami.
I’m calling this story out as bullshit. I never heard of the only guy who is reporting it. Could be a play for clicks, or maybe he’s been played by someone at Penn State. We’ve seen over the last few months that there are people in college football who don’t like IU’s meteoric rise and/or are threatened by it, don’t like CCC’s brashness, and I’m sure there are some who would love to create the appearance of instability in the program.
Haines had a stellar year as IU’s DC, was a Broyles Award finalist, and has three All-Americans returning. I don’t see him leaving IU for anything other than a head coach position. No way he goes to Penn State as DC. If I’m wrong about this, serve me up some crow.
I just read on Football scoop the USC DC signed an extension last night,that can’t be good news.
Sounds like he was using the PS interview to get more money.
Sounds like he was using the PS interview to get more money.
I wonder how close Kamara, Fisher, and Ponds are to Haines? And if their re commitment to the program is any sort of sign in all this?
If he leaves for PSU, this should be smelling salts to snap our focus back in to place on how far "behind" we actually are from the PSU, Michigan, OSU's of the conference. Despite how we performed this season.
If he leaves for PSU, this should be smelling salts to snap our focus back in to place on how far "behind" we actually are from the PSU, Michigan, OSU's of the conference. Despite how we performed this season.
I tend to agree as it's just a lateral move. How much higher profile could he expect in State College than being an instrumental part of raising a CFB program from the ashes to the playoffs. In my mind Franklin is a Q mark in coaching compared to Cignetti. Bird in hand...is
I’d guess even with our progress, PSU is 2x our NIL and OSU/UM are 3x. Their AD revenue is like $50-100M more than us. I’m not complaining IU is doing a great job to improve, but these big FB programs are massive.
Not predicting that Haines will, would, or is leaving for PSU. But it would be a very poignant, symbolic, example of what you laid out. And then that most everything else is just "bigger" in places like Happy Valley. We could win a Natty in the next couple years, and we're still playing "catch up" in a lot of ways.
Yes............I had a sense of what you're talking about when we had our capacity crowds. No matter how enthusiastic you are 52000 does not intimidate like 110000.
Unfortunately maybe,we all know the bottom line is money.
Not much loyalty in the world today.
Penn State's NIL collective funding in 2024 was $13.8 million. Ours was $13.6 million, fourth highest in the conference.
Michigan - - about $16 mill. Ohio State - - $20 mill.
NIL collectives became a big deal as they performed a function that the schools had previously been prohibited from doing themselves. That's changing, though. Beginning with the '25-'26 academic year, revenue sharing will redefine the compensation landscape, with reliance on collectives being significantly reduced. Our estimated revenue sharing in '25-'26 will be $20.5 million, the same as PSU, OSU and Michigan.
But how much more would they spend for a DC than IU knowing his HR assets to the HOOSIERS? If they offer an additional $3-400k IU would be stupid to not match or better.
Any sort of sign in all of what?
We went 1-1 against Michigan and Ohio State, and didn't play Penn State this year. We need to improve significantly at the LOS. If/when that happens, we won't be "behind" anyone.
Those numbers are iffy in terms of accuracy. Even if true, half of ours goes to basketball.
Yes I’m aware of the rev share, it helps us but it’s still rev share + NIL = total payroll.
I think we are making great progress, but we have a ways to go on the NIL and overall AD revenue fronts. And that’s fine, no way we can become OSU or UM in 12 months.
Obviously...any sort of sign that Haines isn't leaving.
And we're a long way away from not being "behind" Michigan, OSU, and PSU, in many ways. I really only care about wins and losses, but those programs are bigger in almost every way. We're inherently "behind" them on a lot of things, and will continue to be, for quite some time.
Chatter from the IU athletic dept, I usually hear it from IU media people I chat with sometimes. It’s hard to find great NIL numbers.
Look at PSU’s roster and ours. Those players cost a lot more.
I’m not being critical of IU, I could not be happier with the progress made. We just aren’t on the same footing as Penn State yet, which is totally fine.
There are, and will continue to be, huge efforts to eliminate the NIL "collectives" once Rev Share goes online. It will be marketed as an attempt to bring "fairness" to the process. Rev Share will provide the "pay for play" money. NIL will revert back to what its original intent was, which is players getting compensated for people and/or companies using their name, image, or likeness.
I think it'll actually get us back to a much less even playing field.
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