Another M$U Administrator Bagged

[IndianaHoops]

ESPN didn't blow open the Nasser case, the Indianapolis Star did, so you obviously aren't that familiar with it. ESPN's report on MSU has been widely discredited for a number of factual errors, so yes their credibility is in question. Not long after the MSU piece, ESPN made the claim that Sean Miller orchestrated the "purchase" of a high profile recruit, and that there were FBI transcripts that prove he did via wiretapped phones. Then, they had to walk back a number of their allegations, since dates and other facts were shown to be inaccurate. So yeah, I'm not sure ESPN is the journalistic beacon you make them out to be.

ESPN backtracked that the recruit was Anyton, not that Miller tried to pay for a recruit.

And the only people that have fought the ESPN report on MSU is MSU people. Did ESPN make some of it bigger than what it was? Sure. Is Izzo scum? Yes. Please tell me all these inaccuracies? And why hasn’t MSU sued ESPN? If they can pay 500k to spy on sexual assault victims, surely they would sue for false accusations.

If MSU isn’t fighting ESPN is court, it must be true with your logic.

And Arizona has lost their entire incoming class, I wonder why? Surely not because of the FBI investigation.....

 

[Marthamon]

ESPN backtracked that the recruit was Anyton, not that Miller tried to pay for a recruit.

And the only people that have fought the ESPN report on MSU is MSU people. Did ESPN make some of it bigger than what it was? Sure. Is Izzo scum? Yes. Please tell me all these inaccuracies? And why hasn’t MSU sued ESPN? If they can pay 500k to spy on sexual assault victims, surely they would sue for false accusations.

If MSU isn’t fighting ESPN is court, it must be true with your logic.

And Arizona has lost their entire incoming class, I wonder why? Surely not because of the FBI investigation.....

Sue for false accusations? No, that’s not really how it works. And you’ve never explained why all of this only matters to you now, when it was public knowledge over seven years ago. Feels like your outrage isn’t genuine and more about a way to attack Izzo, even though your real issue should be with prosecutors, whom you don’t criticize.

 

[IndianaHoops]

Sue for false accusations? No, that’s not really how it works. And you’ve never explained why all of this only matters to you now, when it was public knowledge over seven years ago. Feels like your outrage isn’t genuine and more about a way to attack Izzo, even though your real issue should be with prosecutors, whom you don’t criticize.

I’m sure the victim has forgotten about it. “only matters to me”? You sure seemed fired up about it.

Keep trying to change the argument. I loved Izzo before this went down.

I didn’t criticize the prosecutors? I said they didn’t prosecute because Payne and Appling were MSU basketball players. How much more you want?

Are you part of that PR firm MSU hired? If so, how much they paying you? Just curious

 

[IUCrazy2]

No, I'm just a believer that facts need to be credible and precise in matters such as this, and there's obviously plent of open territory in this matter. And we're you up in arms about this 7 seven years ago, when this was widely reported and something well known to anyone who followed Bog Ten sports?

No, you are just the board's professional curmudgeon and troll. Take the exact same set of facts and apply it to IU and you would be taking the exact opposite opinion and screaming for heads to roll at the top of the University.

Your one and only goal on this board is to be a pain in the ass.

 

[76-1]

Here's one of the articles by ESPN being referred to:

http://www.espn.com/espn/story/_/id...on-michigan-state-goes-larry-nassar-case-espn

 

[Courtsensetwo]

You mean ESPN, that little multi billion dollar programming company who covers stories around the world isn't a credible source.

The same little company that blew open the Nasser case.

We're they accurate on that one? Please tell me which stories are inaccurate so I have a better understanding of what is legit and what is some weird, gotcha fake news report for ratings.

Did ESPN go ''we need a good scandalous story to boost ratings. Who should we pick on. Hmmm how about poor ol MSU?'.

Let me guess, you Spartan warriors want to now distance yourself from Nasser? Where is the same, passionate BS defense for him? Oh, he admitted it. Why do I have absolutely no doubt that the same BS defense would come out and be used. None whatsoever.

ESPN 1, MSU apologists 0.

Hey I'm curious, where is that wrongfully accused patron saint and media victim Kieth Appling currently at these days. Oh, he's in jail? Huh well that's a shocker.

I'm sure he was wrongfully accused again. Poor victim.

Arguing With Ordfan is like herding cats. He dodges, deflects, denies and changes the narrative when caught in inaccuracies and lies until you finally walk away from the twisted hypocrisy shaking your head, whereby he claims victory and superiority...calling you stupid. It is a stale act.

One correction to your post here...it was not ESPN who blew open "Nasser". It's Nassar (don't quote his spelling) and the story was built and broken by an IU classmate Mark Alesia along with two colleagues. Enjoy the Ordfan shitshow.

 

[IU Hardcore]

Just because an accusation has been made, does not mean a crime has been committed.

 

[Marthamon]

I’m sure the victim has forgotten about it. “only matters to me”? You sure seemed fired up about it.

Keep trying to change the argument. I loved Izzo before this went down.

I didn’t criticize the prosecutors? I said they didn’t prosecute because Payne and Appling were MSU basketball players. How much more you want?

Are you part of that PR firm MSU hired? If so, how much they paying you? Just curious

This went down over 7 years ago. Why are you suddenly outraged when it happened then and was well known to people who follow sports?

 

[Marthamon]

Arguing With Ordfan is like herding cats. He dodges, deflects, denies and changes the narrative when caught in inaccuracies and lies until you finally walk away from the twisted hypocrisy shaking your head, whereby he claims victory and superiority...calling you stupid. It is a stale act.

One correction to your post here...it was not ESPN who blew open "Nasser". It's Nassar (don't quote his spelling) and the story was built and broken by an IU classmate Mark Alesia along with two colleagues. Enjoy the Ordfan shitshow.

I’m just offering facts. Of course, you said you were going to ignore me and not keep following me around. Why the change of heart?

 

[Marthamon]

No, you are just the board's professional curmudgeon and troll. Take the exact same set of facts and apply it to IU and you would be taking the exact opposite opinion and screaming for heads to roll at the top of the University.

Your one and only goal on this board is to be a pain in the ass.

No, I’m just a fan of facts. Not everyone, including likely you, cares for that approach.

 

[IUCrazy2]

This went down over 7 years ago. Why are you suddenly outraged when it happened then and was well known to people who follow sports?

Appling and Payne were very much a topic of conversation here when the incident originally occurred. They have been brought back into the conversation because they seem to show a long institutionalized history of sexual misconduct being swept under the rug at MSU. A topic that became very large since MSU employed and covered for a Doctor who sexually assaulted his way across Olympic gymnastics.

You know this, but as mentioned above, you are playing your tired role.

 

[IUCrazy2]

No, I’m just a fan of facts. Not everyone, including likely you, cares for that approach.

You would not know a fact if it punched you in the face.

And do not bother responding, I am ignoring you so I do not get sucked into another one of your hundred post shit fests.

 

[IndianaHoops]

This went down over 7 years ago. Why are you suddenly outraged when it happened then and was well known to people who follow sports?

$300 an hour? Good for you.... lol

 

[TommyCracker]

Arguing With Ordfan is like herding cats. He dodges, deflects, denies and changes the narrative when caught in inaccuracies and lies until you finally walk away from the twisted hypocrisy shaking your head, whereby he claims victory and superiority...calling you stupid. It is a stale act.

One correction to your post here...it was not ESPN who blew open "Nasser". It's Nassar (don't quote his spelling) and the story was built and broken by an IU classmate Mark Alesia along with two colleagues. Enjoy the Ordfan shitshow.

Yup my point about ESPN was more they threw gas in the fire of the Nasser story. It when they got ahold of it when the President and Hollis resigned and the heat was turned on Dantonio and Izzo.

I should have probably worded it better.

The defender, and pretty much every MSU fan is doing the typical circular argument.

Making counter accusations, trying to discredit, deflecting and ignoring actual testimony and now trying to separate from a case that blew up where the same attitude within the same department was so prevalent.

 

[Marthamon]

Appling and Payne were very much a topic of conversation here when the incident originally occurred. They have been brought back into the conversation because they seem to show a long institutionalized history of sexual misconduct being swept under the rug at MSU. A topic that became very large since MSU employed and covered for a Doctor who sexually assaulted his way across Olympic gymnastics.

You know this, but as mentioned above, you are playing your tired role.

This simply isn’t true.

 

[Marthamon]

$300 an hour? Good for you.... lol

More fact free posting from you.

 

[IndianaHoops]

More fact free posting from you.

And it’s free!!!

Hey, can you give me tips for creating alt accounts?

I want in on this MSU PR firm stuff.....

 

[IndianaHoops]

This simply isn’t true.

What’s your favorite color?

 

[Stuffshot]

$300 an hour? Good for you.... lol

Wait a minute. Was that rate for his lawyer or therapist?

 

[Courtsensetwo]

Yup my point about ESPN was more they threw gas in the fire of the Nasser story. It when they got ahold of it when the President and Hollis resigned and the heat was turned on Dantonio and Izzo.

I should have probably worded it better.

The defender, and pretty much every MSU fan is doing the typical circular argument.

Making counter accusations, trying to discredit, deflecting and ignoring actual testimony and now trying to separate from a case that blew up where the same attitude within the same department was so prevalent.

That is the act. We have all fallen for it a time or two, fortunately the mod's are doing a better job of cutting the cancer out of late.

As for the Nassar story, I know ESPN really scaled it up but Mark did a magnificent job prying into dark quiet corners.

 

[76-1]

Thought I'd bump this thread up to give our new found apologist from m$u some light reading material...

 

[iubud]

Better get a better handle on the facts as what you’ve outlined isn’t accurate.

Right! It was last year he had a walk on suspected of sexual assault. Not sure if he was on the team this year.

 

[ufo33]

MSU's answer is to throw $100s of thousands of dollars at the victims and then pull the curtain shut. Telling everyone that there is nothing to see there. Don't look behind the curtain. MSU athletic department sexual violence cover-up is a joke.

 

[mathboy]

You don't suppose Marthamon is one of those guys hired by MSU to plaster over the scandal do you? He seems to act in their defense. He might be earning some good money cruising the internet to find disparaging remarks about MSU.

 

[ORG]

I did watch it. It's disturbing but hardly conclusive in terms of rape. Please provide any support that they weren't charged because they were MSU athletes, or support that Izzo covered it up. Thanks.

Opinions . . . you are both stating opinions. And an opinion is something that can not be proven 100%. If it could be proven 100% it would be called a fact.

You are both entitled to your opinions.

 

[ufo33]

Right! It was last year he had a walk on suspected of sexual assault. Not sure if he was on the team this year.

Michigan State where even the walk-ons are sexual predators.

 

[meenie]

Payne is banned from the NBA. Appling and cleaves are both in prison.

 

[ufo33]

Payne is banned from the NBA. Appling and cleaves are both in prison.

Orange is the new Green.

 

[76-1]

Orange is the new Green.

Bump