I sure can't get excited about Davis. I've seen many high school teams with 2 6'9" kids that were darn good. You would think IU could get more 6'9" to 6'11" kids and kids that can shoot! Recruiting doesn't seem to be Archie's speciality or his assistant coaches. Just another blunder by IU's worthless AD!!
After the Romeo flop...
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Why do so many of the Negative Nancies have lower case usernames? Could it be that many are the same person with different usernames? I think it’s very likely.
They don't know how to capitalize WITHOUT TURNING ON CAPS LOCK. They're just aware enough to know this is frowned on and will get them ignored very quickly.
Why do you keep calling people negative Nancy. You sound like a 8 year old girl. IU has sucked for the past 3 years, this is not being negative it is reality. If IU does not make the tourney this year we should fire the coach.
I do think we will be good this year however, and I think Archie can coach. But if he fails to do so, a good school fires him.
I call them as I see them. The lowercase username posters are almost universally Negative Nancies about IU and have very similar posting styles. I think most of them aren’t IU fans at all and many are the same person with different names..
I agree IU will be better this year and that Miller can coach.
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Most of your post is about sucking and firing the coach. You try to fix it by saying you think we will be good. I'm tired of pointing out the obvious to people about why we are in this position. Shut up about firing the coach and feeding the trolls and other clueless people on here.
A good coach at a school like IU will be successful if we let him do his job.
RL was one of the best freshmen in the Big 10 and he led IU in scoring . . . IU can use more "flops" like him!
5 yrs from now, none of us will remember much of Romeo's one season here. But to his credit, he led the team in scoring, played hurt all season, and carried himself with class on the court. The season was a flop but you can't pin it all on Romeo. There were injuries....and other players who didn't carry their load during the year. And if there were team chemistry issues...that's on the coaching staff to resolve. I can't imagine anyone inside the IU program feels too proud of their individual results from this past year....players OR coaches.
As for Romeo's legacy, this is the reality of the OAD player. They aren't really here long enough to have a legacy. Even OG, who I think is a great person and very talented...seems like he only played in a dozen games here at IU. I hardly remember anything about Vonleh's one season, other than the team looked completed disjointed the entire year.
As for Romeo's legacy, this is the reality of the OAD player. They aren't really here long enough to have a legacy. Even OG, who I think is a great person and very talented...seems like he only played in a dozen games here at IU. I hardly remember anything about Vonleh's one season, other than the team looked completed disjointed the entire year.
Add Gordon to that list. No matter that he was a high quality kid and appreciates his time at IU, it was just a brief stopoff on his way to the NBA.
Hopefully this will be all over soon, the 1&D will be done with, and we'll be able to follow college basketball teams and players who are going to be around long enough for us to get to know them and appreciate them. (I can't imagine what it would be like trying to follow a UK or Duke program over time.)
I’m a Purdue fan and can admit Davis was a good pickup for IU. But without outside shooting I think he can be contained. Like Romeo he will get his points. It’s what the rest of the team can bring for iu to be successful.
We should be a regular participant in the Sweet 16 and be a threat to make it to the Elite 8 and Final 4 on any given year. Archie has to continue to upgrade our roster and change the culture inside the program. IU had become soft mentally and physically.
IU basketball is important nationally and a valuable product despite being down the last several years. College basketball needs IU to be on top.
That seems to be ignored - because of things like ‘he isnt orange’ and ‘he doesnt clap so much’ and ‘he has a system’...mainly mannerisms and personality traits.
However there are some real issues Archie has shown to be poor:
- lack of use or misuse of timeouts
- failure to produce out of timeouts off/def
- lack of offensive direction
- lack of 3pt defense(though improving)
- in game management and adjustments (long scoreless streaks or giving up long streaks to other team - also see misuse of timeouts)
- lack of recognition to teams weaknesses and addressing the weakness w coaching staff changes/upgrades
- communication between staff and players
- creating ‘team togetherness/buy-in’
Poor is a very subjective term that can mean something different to everyone who either uses or hears the term.
I can get behind that thinking. Was just hoping you weren't in the camp who says only 1 team a year is successful
Well I'm speaking for myself here but IMO every year is a new team and should have a different bar set for it. 2 and 3 years ago I would've said top 2 of the conference and sweet 16s should be the minimum. Last year I thought top 5 in the conference and 7 seed who got to the 2nd round of the tournament. This years team I'd put that same thought on but I haven't seen a game from them yet so idk how they look together yet.
I guess I would say top 4/5 in the conference and comfortably in the tournament every year is my general expectation. Once in the tournament anything can happen.
Don't be so hard on yourself. I think most of us will agree that the majority of your other posts are much more ignorant than this one.
Thats where my expectations lie - top 4 of conference yearly - make the tourney 4/5 years ...
win a tourney game,or more occasionally, w advancement on big years.
But ABSOLUTELY NEVER miss the tourney 3 years in a row when you were blessed with being named the coach of INDIANA UNIVERSITY!
agree completely. Even the great RMK has some "down" years in the 70s/80s/90s, but we have to get back to conf top 4 and avoid these multiple years of being NIT-at-best type of teams. Impossible to maintain recruiting momentum in that environment.
Just rewatched the IU Duke first half:
- 1 timeout used in first half
IU playing at crazy road atmosphere with a ‘young’ team, especially w 2 big Zion dunks early.
Juwan gets 2nd foul 3 min into game.
14 first half turnovers.
10 pt run to close the first half.
53-29 deficit.
Coach K only called 1 TO, w 1:54 to go in the half.
So Archie’s Game Management - there was nowhere he could think in that 24 point deficit to settle the team, adjust the gameplan w Morgan in foul trouble, limit the turnovers etc.
Saw similar mismanagement and coaching ‘concern’ in Louisville ending, Oh St ending, Maryland, Minnesota, and Rutgers...
Its been pretty sweet following UK over the past ten years. Of course I would love to have AD or Wall for more then a year. But its also pretty sweet to see UK guys live their dreams at the highest level. Plus. When they return for games or Big Blue madness. Helps recruiting and keeps the UK brand at the top. I remember when Crean was hired. All IU fans talked about was Wade helping with recruiting to IU. So dont kid yourself. You would love to be in UKs or Dukes position. Just because a kid was at your program for a year. If the culture and fans give them the support and love they deserve. They will do more for the program for years. Every summer and at big games old UK players have a huge presence. You can still be a fan and get to know a young man if he has left for the NBA. I can only think of one old UK player in Cals era that fans show no love today. And he has never returned or still calls UK his second home and family. This idea a kid has to commit mind , time and soul to a school before the school and fan base see him as a true member of the IU family. Is rediculous. And probably has cost IU in recruiting. Times and young men have changed. This old mind set like back in BK day. Just wont fly with top talent today. Even if the OnD desolves. The best of the rest will still be looking for a program to build their skills and supports the young man if he leaves to chase his dreams. OnD will never disapear. Just a handful of kids will go straight to the draft. Kids will still leave after a year if the oppurtunity is there. Not much will really change. So maybe stop hoping and waiting for the rules to change. And maybe change and adapt at IU. That may work better for IU.
Not surprised that a UK fan doesn’t know the concept of paragraphs.
Ther isn’t a program in the country that I have less desire to emulate than UK’s.
Sorry crappy phone. Hard enough just typing.
And you would love to of had UKs success in the past ten years.
Stop it. What UK has accomplished is what all programs strive for. Most wins in that period of time. A NC win. Multiple final fours and eights.
Crazy talent and good young men coming through and repping your program at the highest level.
More highly drafted young men then any other school.
Ya just stop. You look foolish and bitter.
UK has done it the right way. And UK and players have given this fan base so much success and memories. Most UK fans have become spoiled.
You want your school to spoil you with great wins and memories.
Thats exactly what has happened at UK. And thats exactly what you want.
Just remove the UK. If that helps you agree on the success and how you would like your program to be in that position and level today.
It’s not “love to of,” it’s “love to have.”
UK is the last college basketball program I’d want IU to emulate. The very last.
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