Closer than most would think. You need to add runer-up in 2002. Worst 2 decades and it’s still that close.
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That's nice. You said twenty five years, another poster said ten. Ten, I'll give you. From the time Crean's recruiting fell off the cliff, which was around 2014, Purdue has been the better program. Until that time both programs were on pretty equal footing.
I don’t care to get into this debate, but have to say, for as bad as the last 25 years have been, we aren’t that far off Purdue.
If we can dodge the Edey era bullet and get our program fixed, that would be great.
If we can dodge the Edey era bullet and get our program fixed, that would be great.
He’s on BTB. I can‘t vouch for him personally, but he’s been pretty spot on in the past. Based on what Sisley himself said he was looking for in a program….it sure didn’t seem to describe the current situation at IU.
Purdue will just reload and make another run the next few years. Easily top 25 next year, but with super athletic guards and forwards coming.
Seems like "wins a lot" is the thing missing right now. IU would absolutely be the better college experience in nearly every other way.
Unfortunately they will return a ton and have a great recruiting class coming in.
Not sure family would describe IU either. They don’t play like a very connected group. And next season is likely to be a mishmash of portal fill ins.
Yea, have to hope losing 2x NPOY gets them out of the top-5 and somewhere less dangerous like #10-20. Who knows.
so in what has been a pretty miserable 25 year stretch for IU, we've been barely worse than PU and accomplished 2 things (title game appearance, in addition to a F4) they haven't in 40+ years?
if you've read any of my posts, I've actually complimented Edey on focusing on getting out of the lane on 3 second calls and been critical of those who complain about it, and also that I think he does a good job of not fouling when defending and blocking shots. "Over the back" is a foul, they just don't use that specific term, even though it's jargon that specifies the exact violation I'm referencing, and is known to everyone, vs "impeding an opponents movement" or "displacing a primary rebounder". I see illegal/moving screens called multiple times each game, just rarely on the biggest guy I see doing it most often. They don't have to call it anymore frequently on him, just call it at the same rate.
His stock was literally as high as it can get last year, and he didn't go pro. This is because his game does not translate to the NBA. Edey is way closer to Tacko Fall and Isaac Haas than it is Kevin Durant or any other player in the league that can exist more than 5 feet away from the basket.
There is a clear foul disparity. There are way too many games where Zach Edey only has like 1 foul: that is absolute BS.
and yet you still don't see the irony that the biggest, strongest most physical guy on the floor gets called for some of the fewest fouls? MN's frontcourt was called for 16 fouls and Purdues 7 (I'm being lenient and calling Gillis a frontcourt player, because he does defend some... only 4 if you take away his 3 fouls). You guys complained for years/decades about the "Hall of Calls" when RMK's stated goal was to make more FTs than the opponent took. You guys are nearly doubling up many of your opponents, or worse (NW: 46-8??? C'mon Man!)... all with the biggest most physical guy (who's still kind of awkward and gangly) who barely gets called. I bet Matt blew a gasket last night when they called him for 4!
Edey fouled way more last night than most games. You’d have to get nit picky to find 5 fouls a game on Zach.
No doubt Edey stock has risen. How much? Who knows until draft day. In his case staying was a no brainer and with the draft class being weaker will help much like zeller back in ‘13. He is better that I must admit.
Wake me up when he actually does something in the NBA. A junior "national player of the year" doesn't stay in the minors unless he can't hack it in the majors.
I mean, he hasn’t had a chance to do anything yet, so… You have no idea how he will fare in the NBA.
He'll hang around on rosters for a while. He'll never be a star, and probably never a regular starter. However, having a 7'4" backup center can dictate the opposing coach's substitution pattern, and a savvy head coach will figure out how to incorporate 2-3 good minutes a quarter.
You don’t know that as you haven’t seen him in the NBA or participate in a draft. Which is your metric.
I know what his skill set is, what skills are required in the NBA, and that Edey removed himself from the draft. Edey can't even exist more than 5 feet from the bucket in college. There was a really good possibility he wouldn't have been drafted last year.
Basically. Big bro has had two broken legs, a broken arm and multiple heart procedures…and lil bro was only barely better, while still not sniffing a FF.
in fairness, they sniffed a F4 in 2019, barely losing to eventual champion UVA to go to the F4. I don't remember the details well, but didn't they miss a sealing FT late or something? Maybe an OT game?
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Hard to say until the NBA shows what they think. Per you. But you are wrong on existing outside of 5 feet. He will probably show off more range shooting wise in the NBA. He just doesn’t need to at Purdue. But, like you’ve said, we just don’t know until we see what the NBA says.
They missed a free throw, cline I think, then fouled Virginia with 5ish seconds left. Virginia hit the first, missed the second, then haarms tipped the ball across half court, the Virginia freshman guard made a great pass to diakite who made a one handed hook shot. Luckiest sequence I’ve seen to end a game tbh. Bad luck for Purdue. Replay that exact situation 100 times, Purdue wins 96 times.
Well, more like Big Bro on his own choices, broke his legs, broke his own arm, stabbed himself in the heart, surviving, but family is seriously worried about his mental competence.
And lil bro was only barely better. But at least won't be committed.
Yeah, I know.... I just wanted to make one of you Boilers recount it!
Heeheeheee... the levels we have to resort to in a crappy season!
You might as well blame IU’s misfortune on a sexually frustrated butterfly sneeze somewhere on the slopes of Sumatra. If only Brad Stevens hadn’t jilted us at the alter…the “ifs” and “buts” of Christmas, eaten as candied nuts before a crackling fire. If we could realize alternative histories, none of us would be where we are today.
Mike Davis, et al, are the product of a deeply-seeded problem within the IU administration for which we have yet to identify in hope of recovery. Until we flush the culprit out, we’ll remain mired in this muck of mediocrity.
As a freshman Edey played in 28 games averaged 5.1 minutes per game, committed 64 fouls averaging 2.3 fouls per game
Purdue free throws vs opponent‘s last four years:
2021-22 - 506 - 476
2021-22 - 800 - 480
2022-23 - 720 - 389
2023-24 - 642 - 358
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