That alone is the final nail.
Nice to have buddies like quinn
What’s an absolute collapse? He is well on his way by my definition!
wouldn't take anyone with any connections to tell you that. not sure a collapse down the stretch would even matter. Sisley is not a loss he's probably better off at Purdue. Harrelson could be a game changer but might just pro-long the pain. next year will be horrible.
Indiana simply cannot get out of its own way with these hires. Purdue will get most of these guys and we will get portal on year players asw we try to " get over the hump". Mind blowing. But like I said it pays to have friends in high places.
if true, then next yr is portal gold...or disaster. Assuming we aren't getting Queen and D Davis.
Exactly…we also have IU fans with head in the sand and can’t see that PU is winning because they have become IU as far as culture and recruiting
The funny thing was the we need to hire an IU guy to get us back to our culture crowd and yet he is the furthest thing from it. Nothing about woodson is like IU was ever in regards to players, culture, etc. In fact has he ever signed one indiana player in three years yet? I do not think he has. Gunn does not count imo he was an archie recruit.
The needing an IU guy as a coach is quite simply the dumbest requirement ever for considering your new coach. Our unhappiness with Davis, Sampson, Crean and Miller had nothing to do when them not being IU guys. We're unhappy with our current IU guy for the exact same reasons we wanted them gone (Sampson obviously left for other reasons). They all lose too many games! Lol.
^This. I could give two cents about it being an IU guy. We need the best coach available.
Yep Joe Hillman who screamed and yelled about having to hire an IU is now upset. How ironic.
I would highly doubt queen come to iu.
I guess the only good news is the you gotta hire an IU crowd will finally shut up after this. They got their IU guy and when he is finally fired in a few years they need to just be quiet.
Those pushing for an IU guy all wanted Alford. He was the only one remotely qualified. They never thought in a million years we'd be dumb enough to hire Woody.
I dont really care where players come from but when you have good players in your own state who want to come to your school you should be able to at least get a few of them.
I agree I am pretty sure that is who hillman wanted but he did not realize quinn was making the decision and quinn hates alford. that is why it seems the guys who graduated after 1987 are not too pleased with where things are at.
Need better talent evaluators. It seems all the good players ranked by Fatjohns and our staff are atrocious.
None to my knowledge xavier johnson seems to mostly be a bust and he was rated a top 20 player.
Players look better when they're coached up. Furst and Kauffman have time left to prove their chops but Romeo wasn't bad. He was a lottery pick. Half the problem is we are just going for the most individual talent as opposed to a cohesive unit that plays like a team.
No idea regarding your buddy, but when I read Sisley's comments from the article about looking for a program that feels like family, it sounded to me like he was talking about Purdue. Sad but true!
We all bought into the romeo hype because he was ranked like 3rd in the country. He was not a good shooter but wasnt the year we had like 6 guys hurt the whole season. Thompson was out for like three months after a concussion from what I remember it was like the walking dead team.
How is this not a collapse already? Zero chance at NCAA and likely 1st round NIT exit..with several 5 star recruits and one substantive incoming player. Woodson would be so better off saving his legacy as a player and walking now. Nothing but negative brand equity for him going another year.
I think he's talking about his conference in high school. Baily has 1 thought, Quinn.
Style of play is losing. If we win they come to IU, but losing at IU really sucks for Indiana kids. Very hard on them.
Would be but he will not his ego will keep him here no doubt. The only way he ever leaves is if they agree to pay him a ton of money to leave but they will never ever fire him.
If Braden Smith is the barometer, then there have been plenty.
You are correct because without quinn woodson would not be the coach and quinn controls when or if he leaves. I cannot say for certian he forced the hire but if it had to be an IU guy alford was way more qualified as a college coach yet they choose quinns buddy. Seeem odd to me.
I don't know about that, but what he also said was he wants to be somewhere that wins a lot, and that isn't IU lately.
