Their achievements in the ACC were amazing. I still don't know how they won so many conference titles.
I'll let those with more knowledge than me debate how much style dictates success. I remember my wise old uncle telling me every year when I was a kid, in the Super Bowl to pick the team with the best defense, and damn, he was right almost every year. I don't believe WI or UVA had near the talent of those other programs, but they had very nearly the same level of success. if you give those guys the same caliber of athlete, I think they elevate to the top levels of success vs any program. If no one paid attention to UVA, how come everyone knows they disappointed in the tourney all those years?
I’m a fan of seeing teams outperform the talent that they have. In other words, seeing a well coached team that is greater than the sum of their parts.
18-10 on average? One elite eight? We coulda kept Crean and have that.
I'd talk to Brownell. Clemson is probably the toughest bball coaching job in the ACC. They are all fball all the time, and they are a bottom quarter conference program. No idea on their NIL and overall budget, but I can guess both are bottom 2-3 in conference. And, have you been to Clemson? Not easy to get to and it's in the sticks. It would feel like Deliverance to kids from major cities.
It really doesn't. Archie got 3 five stars (Langford, Jackson Davis, Lander) in his 4 years. Langford was a shooting guard who couldn't shoot and Jackson-Davis was a borderline 5 star who turned out great. Lander was clearly misevaluated. Romeo and TJD never played together. The rest were 4-star hit or miss types with obvious flaws who didn't play well here or in their next stop after they left..
I watched the movie version of Pistol when I was a kid. Good movie.
I didn’t know that about Press. My knowledge of him starts at LSU and more importantly as Petes father.
That's pretty good for a not so good coach without much personality and very little ability to pay players. Almost one five star per year and several four stars should be enough to be good... for a good coach. I'm not disputing poor evaluations, getting the wrong players, and not coaching well.
Pete died in a pickup game in CA, I believe.
Recruiting a 5 star who isn't good doesn't count as good recruiting in my book.
I agree it’s not good recruiting, though I see it as a sign of program recruiting capability that even with a bad coach and not much $ we got some five stars and several four stars.
By definition, top 5 NIL is not unique. Top 1 would be, but trying to do that just creates an arms race.
One of the people he was playing with, and who tended to him when he collapsed, was James Dobson.
Okay, you got me on the definition of unique -- though I'd guess you know what I meant. I'll rephrase and say top-5 NIL is a material program advantage that should be appealing to potential coaches.
You are right and the story I read must be inaccurate.
Don't we know by now it doesn't matter what kind of talent you have if your coaches are incompetent.
Here is a slightly different version of the story-
