That’s all well and good - but there’s enough talent on that team to fix all of it.
14-6 in the B1G
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I don't see a team gushing with talent at all. You seriously think they will win 14 games?
Lots of talent, for sure. They just don’t consistently show it. Tonight, so far, is a glaring example.
X was averaging 2.3a to 1.7t (1.3a/t) before this game. Cupps at 1.5 a/t.
Disregard.
I’ve mis-evaluated this IU team. They really aren’t very good. Mostly, they don’t play with any passion.
Our first two wins were vs big ten bottom feeders. Haven't played a top team yet. So maybe 13-7 is correct!
i seem to remember you slobbin all over Landers knob as well.
Before I saw him play I was pumped we got him like everyone else. I saw him play and changed my tune quickly. I actually state often that the miss on Lander shows how shitty the Fatjohns of the world are. I slobbered for Tamar, that was it.
To be fair to Cav, I think we all were pretty excited when we got Lander.
well I sure missed that one . Seemed like every time we looked like we might be making a little run to get back in the game , that we would miss a couple of close in shots , and then Tominaga would hit a 3. Time to get ready for OSU , and let’s hope the home crowd gets us over the hump .
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How good is Ohio State. They're the one B1G I've not seen play this year so far.
Better/worse than Nebraska?
At the 3,4 & 5 spot they have a ton of talent. If X can play like he did 2 years ago, then you have a team with even more, but they’re missing that 2 who can drain 3’s and get a bucket when needed by taking his man off the dribble (JHS type). Right now though, X is playing below average and Galloway isn’t THAT guy. If Woody could’ve gotten Dalton Knecht and X was playing great we’d have the roster to win the B1G. That’s of course if you think Woodson can coach.
Better. We have no answer for Thorton. IU could win, it's a t home. But do not be surprising OSU not only wins, but wins comfortable. They can really shoot the 3 ball as well. This is a very bad matchup.
Battle will probably light us up from three. We got nobody who can guard him.
Was trying to think of this earlier today (kinda in conjunction with the "is the big ten down" question being discussed in another thread).
Which teams are better / worse than last year?
If I had to guess right now:
Better:
OSU - maybe. OSU was 10-3 this time last year, but then absolutely fell apart in BT play.
Nebraska
Wisconsin - maybe (similar to OSU, they were 11-2 / 3-0 last year at this time, then kinda fell apart)
Illinois
Minnesota (though they were horrid last year, so "improve" is a relative statement)
Same:
PU (maybe slightly better)
NW (10-3 and 1-1 at this same time last year. And bear in mind they were 2nd last year).
Maryland (was 10-5, 1-3 at this time last year, need to see more, might be worse)
Worse: (Don't think any of these are really debatable)
Michigan
MSU
PSU
Iowa
Rutgers
IU
So maybe the BT isn't down that much, it's just that different teams (MSU, Mich, IU, Iowa) which have been solid teams the past few years are down and that is bringing the perception down.
Which teams are better / worse than last year?
If I had to guess right now:
Better:
OSU - maybe. OSU was 10-3 this time last year, but then absolutely fell apart in BT play.
Nebraska
Wisconsin - maybe (similar to OSU, they were 11-2 / 3-0 last year at this time, then kinda fell apart)
Illinois
Minnesota (though they were horrid last year, so "improve" is a relative statement)
Same:
PU (maybe slightly better)
NW (10-3 and 1-1 at this same time last year. And bear in mind they were 2nd last year).
Maryland (was 10-5, 1-3 at this time last year, need to see more, might be worse)
Worse: (Don't think any of these are really debatable)
Michigan
MSU
PSU
Iowa
Rutgers
IU
So maybe the BT isn't down that much, it's just that different teams (MSU, Mich, IU, Iowa) which have been solid teams the past few years are down and that is bringing the perception down.
More of a review based upon record at this time last year. Last year at this time, Purdue was also 13-1 and 2-1.
Now, it is a valid statement to say that their OOC wins this year are better than last years (Marquette, Duke, WVU, Gonzaga), but we wont really know that for sure until the end of the season. (For example, the Duke win was huge at the time, but in the end, the Marquette win was probably their best win of the season. Arizona, as of now, is their best win, but Arizona just got boat raced by Stanford and may end up a fringe top 25 team by the end of the season, we wont know till March).
Even then though, it's more of a question of relativity. They were a top 5 team most of last year and are a top 3 team this year at this point in time (AP 1, KP 2, NET 3). So yes, even if they are better, it is really only slightly better. Not trying to be insulting, they absolutely deserve their #1 spot right now, but they pretty much deserved their spot at #1 at this time last year also.
The eye test says yes they are better, but they dominated the Big Ten last year (won by 3 games), and I expect them to do the same this year. So if they are better, there's not alot of room to be "better" achievement-wise.
Don't know if that makes sense or not.
Their non-conference victories this year have been impressive by any standard. It's easy to try to pick at them due to the fact that they're IU's rival, but they've beaten a pretty good schedule.
And yes, I'm partially basing it on the eye test too. And also on roster additions too. And player development.
Lance Jones was a good addition as a transfer. He helps their backcourt immensely.
Their all-freshman backcourt is a year older and better this year. They're still at risk against very athletic backcourts, but Smith is better than last year. Loyer is shooting well.
This could very well be the year that they break through. We'll see.
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