Musk/Twitter Document Dump
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No, it wouldn’t. You are conflating “following” with “invested in”. The article doesn’t do that. That’s a leap you’re making on your own.
I have followed the story and I believe it’s pretty obvious that it affected the election.
That doesn’t mean I’m “invested” in it.
Hunter Biden’s laptop clearly cost Democrats the Senate in 2022.
Maybe Mas is onto something.
Trim the fat from both sides since both the prior and this administration went down that rabbit hole (if true).
(I'm of course kidding).
No it isn't. Twitter is a not a government entity. They can manage it any way they see fit...as you're seeing right now with Musk.
Twitter had rules. When people broke the rules, they were punished or banned. It just so happens that, like every other hate crime or racist nonsense, it's usually a right wing nut who's threatening to kill someone on Twitter and then are surprised they're banned. This was discussed on Joe Rogan in 2019 for about 2 hours:
I don't understand how right wingers have so much trouble understanding "freedom of speech" as it pertains to the 1st Amendment. It's bizarre. And where is this "proof" you speak of? Also, enlighten everyone here as to what's on Hunter Biden's laptop. The Washington Post had a copy of the files:
It's not a choice for him, it's a lifestyle.
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President Trump was the Chief Executive in charge of all those government agencies. Are you proposing execution for him?
Insipid remark.
Show us where Trump knew anything at all what these bastards were doing.
So, you don't think Trump was the Chief Executive Officer and you think he was just a victim?
He gets credit for all the stuff Mas likes. Everything else is Deep State!!!
I don’t agree much with you liberals these days, but I generally understand you. I was once liberal enough to comfortably fit in the Democratic Party of the 70s and 80s (not now). However, I can’t fully understand Trumpster Republicans. I just can’t relate.
He admits that Trump's team would pressure them on content. So two political campaigns trying to control the narrative is something that's been going on since the first political campaign.
Even Seb Gorka, one of the Trumpiest of Trumpers is saying this is a dumb nothing burger. He's calling out Musk as trying to create drama with nothing.
Which is really weird to see since creating fake drama and fake outrage is a core competency of the Trump administration.
Again (if I recall correctly), Rudy fresh off being outed calling Ukraine and asking them to 'we just need you to say that you're opening an investigation and we'll do the rest', now says that he's got a laptop that he acquired from a blind repairman which no pure connection to Hunter, like a serial number.
Even the reporter from the Post wouldn't put their name on the story because they couldn't validate the authenticity (remember that?).
Then the first incriminating pics were obviously Russian tainted pics (as they left Russian watermarks on the pics they released).
And you seriously wonder why outlets were like, yeah this seems really fishy, proceed with caution because the only thing we know is it's was dropped strategically by proven bad actors.
Regardless maybe I'd have more sympathy if the controversy was something bigger and direct like Hillary's emails but it says something when the only smear job Rudy can do is by attacking a man's son.
Actually trying to turn a father against his son is pretty despicable on its own if you really think about it.
LMAO
TRUMPERS:
-No one cares about Jan 6th.
-No one cares about the new conservative court immediately striking down Roe v Wade.
-Hunter Biden is the most critical issue that everyone is concerned about!!!
Show us where Trump knew anything at all about what these bastards were doing.
Hahahahaha. James Woods? Goodness gracious. But again, why does the right hate Hollywood elites, except for the batshit crazy ones like James Woods and Jon Voigt? Then we put them on tv and bow down. Hypocrisy at its finest. Oh and let’s not forget Chachi and Kevin Sorbo. Nothing but the finest for Fox News.
Oh like you can’t go low enough with Catturd, you have to bring in Dakich, the biggest Turd of all. Have you no shame, sir?
You are insane. Fortunately that’s not punishable by death, but you should seek help. Or at least get back on your meds.
I have no feelz to address. Why are you trying to be dismissive of my recommendation to be open to listening, learning, & then drawing conclusions? If you are unwilling to do so, that‘s you choosing willful ignorance. It has nothing to do with what anyone agrees or disagrees with. What feelz have I expressed beyond pity & disdain for your willful ignorance?
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I’ll teach you so that you may teach others…
Besides that, I don’t know for a fact where he is right or wrong, & neither do you, but you seem unwilling to consider anything beyond what the Dem narrative feeds you. Willful ignorance.
Willful ignorance is what we have seen from conservatives anytime news comes out of a scandal from orange man or other conservative politicians.
From some, certainly. In your case, the ignorance isn‘t willful, you have no choice but to remain ignorant. It’s unfortunate, but I realize you can’t help it.
The WaPo artcle that @DrHoops linked had a couple passages that made me go WTF??? It seems to me the computer tech that had the laptop to begin with was an idiot.
That's not how any competent tech would approach backing up all the data from a failing machine. One would access the drive with live media and transfer the contents, or even better would be to physically remove the drive and clone it. Even with my relatively pedestrian skilz, that's how I've handled similar situations in the past. It's a trivial exercise for anyone who claims to know what they're doing.
But then you have this:
Why would he do that after the fact, rather than from the get go? He was hired to back up all the data on the machine. Once it became obvious the machine wouldn't reliably run, cloning/copying the drive would have been the easiest way to back up and secure everything that was on it.
@Marvin the Martian , what's your take?
Link to WaPo article originally posted by @DrHoops :
According to Mac Isaac’s attorney, Brian Della Rocca, recovering the data was challenging for Mac Isaac.
“He would boot the computer and transfer as much as he could before the computer shut down. Then, he would boot up the computer again, verify what was copied, and then transfer more data until the computer shut down again. This process repeated several times,” Della Rocca said in a prepared statement.
That's not how any competent tech would approach backing up all the data from a failing machine. One would access the drive with live media and transfer the contents, or even better would be to physically remove the drive and clone it. Even with my relatively pedestrian skilz, that's how I've handled similar situations in the past. It's a trivial exercise for anyone who claims to know what they're doing.
But then you have this:
He added that Mac Isaac, before turning over the computer, made a copy of its hard drive “in case he was ever thrown under the bus as a result of what he knew.”
Why would he do that after the fact, rather than from the get go? He was hired to back up all the data on the machine. Once it became obvious the machine wouldn't reliably run, cloning/copying the drive would have been the easiest way to back up and secure everything that was on it.
@Marvin the Martian , what's your take?
Link to WaPo article originally posted by @DrHoops :
"the government is regulating speech" by applying pressure to these social media companies to censor speech that is not favorable to the government."
So which element of "the Govt" was applying pressure to social media companies in the fall of 2020? Congress?
Because if memory serves me, that was the only branch of "Govt" controlled by Dems. Both the Judicial and Executive Branches were controlled by the MAGA GOP, and that includes the heads of various agencies which were all nominated and voted on by (primarily) the GOP...
As to your larger claim that the "suppression" of the story was some coordinated effort, this article from The Hill reached a different conclusion...
"The posts on Twitter’s response to the Hunter Biden story do not show evidence of a widespread conspiracy to limit the content but some chaos, confusion and disagreement among Twitter employees about the platform’s reasoning for censoring it."
Trump calls for ‘termination’ of election rules in Constitution to overturn 2020 election
Former President Trump called for the termination of the Constitution’s rules regarding elections to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election following the release of more detailed information about Twitter’s role in suppressing a story about Hunter Biden. “A Massive Fraud of this...
I'm still curious as to how "the govt" was involved? And of course Trump, who was POTUS when all this suppression supposedly occurred, is more than happy to use a private company enforcing their own standards as a reason to overthrow an election and have him installed as a leader...
Weren't the folks invested in this story already part of the voters who voted for the GOP 3 weeks ago? If it didn't propel the MAGA team to victory in 2022, why do MAGA types assume it would have changed significant votes in 2020?
I have yanked out many a drive, attached them to my machine, and copied everything off. It seems crazy to do it piecemeal.
I also do not look at anything on a user's computer unless it is the problem ("Word document xyz.doc will not open" then I have to look at xyz.doc. Otherwise I don't open up personal files. I don't know why a reputable technician would).
Coming from you...thanks. the next intelligent post from you will be the first.
I never did either, although occasionally there'd be a thumbnail preview that would inadvertently pop up or something of that nature. I wouldn't give a shit of course, as long as it wasn't child porn. Glad I never was put in a position to deal with that.
We hired a former coworker from a national chain a few years ago. He worked at a call center for them, he said they had a story of someone who found child porn and they of course had to report it. But the worker was in trouble because they should never have looked where they did.
I have no idea what happened with the laptop in the OP, but no one hear should go to a repair shop that looks at your files without warning.
Pretty sure that was a Best Buy/Geek Squad case. Yeah, ethically the tech was a douchebag, but I don't think he did anything illegal.
What a surprise you missed the point. Conservatives are the ones that are always talking about how much they hate Hollywood Elites. Good lord, comprehension, Cray Cray.
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All that said, all of your outlets ran full bore with the piss tape story. Cool!
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Yeah that’s a hard no.
Trump’s Pee-Tape Alibi Is Falling Apart
Meanwhile, the president continues to bend over backward for his friends in mother Russia.
There’s a Pretty Good Chance President Trump Is Being Blackmailed
We know he has a lot of secrets, and that he’s willing to pay to keep them secret.
nymag.com
Trump, Russian Spies and the 'Golden Shower Memos'
An uncorroborated report circulated by U.S. intelligence alleges Russian security agents watched Trump engaging in "perverted sexual acts."
www.newsweek.com
Putin spies ‘taped Trump sex game with prostitutes’
The allegations against Donald Trump contained in a leaked dossier range from “perverted” sexual conduct to financial chicanery and backdoor deals to seal Kremlin influence in Washington.Analysts have
www.thetimes.co.uk
Some of these use couched language to explain that the tape hasn’t been verified. But if all was equal - these would have been censored by social media and they sure as **** were not.
That's an extremely liberal sample. But I might be wrong.Yeah that’s a hard no.
Trump’s Pee-Tape Alibi Is Falling Apart
Meanwhile, the president continues to bend over backward for his friends in mother Russia.www.vanityfair.com
There’s a Pretty Good Chance President Trump Is Being Blackmailed
We know he has a lot of secrets, and that he’s willing to pay to keep them secret.
Trump, Russian Spies and the 'Golden Shower Memos'
An uncorroborated report circulated by U.S. intelligence alleges Russian security agents watched Trump engaging in "perverted sexual acts."
Putin spies ‘taped Trump sex game with prostitutes’
The allegations against Donald Trump contained in a leaked dossier range from “perverted” sexual conduct to financial chicanery and backdoor deals to seal Kremlin influence in Washington.Analysts have
Some of these use couched language to explain that the tape hasn’t been verified. But if all was equal - these would have been censored by social media and they sure as **** were not.
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So freaking what? What don’t you understand? Twitter actively censored the Hunter Biden story from being shown and it was nowhere near as salacious as the piss tape. Why wouldn’t they actively censor the piss tape story?
The pretzel logic is coming in 3…2…1…..
