Your use of "lifetime" in the aftermath of yet another gun massacre underscores your callous lack of concern for life. Thanks for being obvious about your priorities.Nope. Springs and mag bodies wear out over time. I've got my lifetime supply.
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Your use of "lifetime" in the aftermath of yet another gun massacre underscores your callous lack of concern for life. Thanks for being obvious about your priorities.Nope. Springs and mag bodies wear out over time. I've got my lifetime supply.
Now wait.Nope. Springs and mag bodies wear out over time. I've got my lifetime supply.
So what if he is? And I’m not saying he is.Now wait.
You admit you're buying and selling oversized 30-round clips but deny that you're dealing in weapons??
Can those guns even operate without the clips you are profiting from?
Why do you need 75 of those 30-round clips if not to profit from the shooters that buy them from you?
75x30 = 2,250 shots. That's clearly an obsession for profit -- not hunting, not sport, not personal protection.
But your proposal to do absolutely nothing is 100% certain to accomplish absolutely nothing.A minority viewpoint based on your opinion. Polls don't really reflect anything.
Because I might want to go bowling some day without getting shot.So what if he is? And I’m not saying he is.
So long as he’s not breaking any laws, what business is it or yours?
You tell me.I have about 75 30 rounders. What do I do with them?
LmaoI’m guessing you didn’t read my posts on this thread?
What is QAnon?
Dems don’t care if I get shot going downtown tomorrow or they’d stop attacking cops and and DAs would do their job. Sad.Because I might want to go bowling some day without getting shot.
Gunlovers and Republicans don't care if I get shot, or they would propose something other than doing nothing.
Those are all interesting rationales, but it's intriguing to me that the reason the article you quoted identified as the motivation behind the Declaration of Right was to protect Protestants from internal threats of tyranny, not the external ones you identify. The U.S. is certainly in that 1776 British spot of being a self-contained nation that faces little threat from foreign forces, barbarians, etc. It's interesting that the U.K.'s gun control laws evolved quickly and dramatically from a comparable few mass shooter incidents.Different histories, geographies, etc. U.S. was founded by a paranoia regarding tyrannical government. It's part of our national story and identity. I'm not familiar enough with British history post 1776 to tell you why they became less scared. Maybe because of their burgeoning empire? Because to hold the empire, they needed to keep weapons from their other colonies so started thinking they didn't need them at home either?
By 1776, Britain was a self-contained, established nation surrounded by sea to prevent invasion of foreign forces, "barbarians," etc. The US was expanding into uncharted land, inhabited by sometimes hostile natives. We also have way bigger expanses of land to cover, more isolated people, etc. and were for a long time much more ethnically and "racially [hate the word]" diverse.
Actually, as you and I have discussed, I don't disagree with having more police protection and stricter criminal law procedures.Dems don’t care if I get shot going downtown tomorrow or they’d stop attacking cops and and DAs would do their job. Sad.
The guns that make up most shootings and make cities dangerous are not those used by “owners”Actually, as you and I have discussed, I don't disagree with having more police protection and stricter criminal law procedures.
But no one can disagree that the authorities would have an easier task if there were fewer, less powerful guns.
Allowing more guns is not an effective crime prevention tool -- few of the owners of guns diligently use and store them properly.
Allowing the ATF to do its job stopping gun trafficking would help reduce urban gun crime.Actually, as you and I have discussed, I don't disagree with having more police protection and stricter criminal law procedures.
But no one can disagree that the authorities would have an easier task if there were fewer, less powerful guns.
Allowing more guns is not an effective crime prevention tool -- few of the owners of guns diligently use and store them properly.
Dems don’t care if I get shot going downtown tomorrow or they’d stop attacking cops and and DAs would do their job. Sad.
Yeah, I think you’ll be alright.Because I might want to go bowling some day without getting shot.
Gunlovers and Republicans don't care if I get shot, or they would propose something other than doing nothing.
You keep saying things like I don't want reductions in gun deaths. There's zero need for me to have a conversation with you about this since you can't even be honest about what I am and what I am not saying.You are creating a false goal: "I don't think we'll ever be free of gun related deaths and violence because some gun control legislation was passed."
That's just silly. No criminal statute is 100% effective in preventing 100% of the prohibited conduct. You are wrong to demand that be the goal or nothing should be done,
Your goal instead should be to suggest something to make things better -- but you didn't do that. By making extreme unrealistic comparisons to 9/11, Islam, and jury trials, you made it clear you don't want any reduction in gun deaths whatsoever.
When you do nothing other than send your prayers after the inevitable next massacre, please share with us what your own personal prayer would ask God to do. I'm sure God won't know what he should do until you tell him in your prayer.
Getting rid of assault weapons would make things better.The guns that make up most shootings and make cities dangerous are not those used by “owners”
Carrying a gun would do no good whatsoever, unless it were in my hand (not a holster or waistband) at the exact moment when an assault occurred to my face. However, no one carries a gun in their hand 100% of the time.Yeah, I think you’ll be alright.
Go ahead and go bowling. You don’t have to be afraid.
Matter of fact, if it bothers you that much, you could always carry.
Well then be honest and tell us -- would you accept a solution that just reduces the number of gun deaths, without eliminating 100% of them, or not?You keep saying things like I don't want reductions in gun deaths. There's zero need for me to have a conversation with you about this since you can't even be honest about what I am and what I am not saying.
Have a nice weekend.
What rubs republicans the wrong way is 1) Dems getting all amped up over this stuff yet silent over the vast majority of shootings and 2) we would hardly have a shooting issue if you backed out urban blacks. Our homicide rate would be tiny. So all these responsible owners get punished over a fraction of the shootings that occur annually that Dems get riled up over. Selective grievanceGetting rid of assault weapons would make things better.
Doing nothing because of the argument in your post would not make anything better.
We don't have to end all shootings to make things better -- that's a false argument.
She got a lot of pretty, pretty boys she calls friends.Your life is turning into the lyrics of an Eagles song. I guess every form of refuge has its price.
Can you or I, or any gun legislation realistically stop it? Put away the psychos.Your use of "lifetime" in the aftermath of yet another gun massacre underscores your callous lack of concern for life. Thanks for being obvious about your priorities.
Yes they can operate from 1 round too 100.Now wait.
You admit you're buying and selling oversized 30-round clips but deny that you're dealing in weapons??
Can those guns even operate without the clips you are profiting from?
Why do you need 75 of those 30-round clips if not to profit from the shooters that buy them from you?
75x30 = 2,250 shots. That's clearly an obsession for profit -- not hunting, not sport, not personal protection.
No because your stastics you will provide are insignificant.But your proposal to do absolutely nothing is 100% certain to accomplish absolutely nothing.
Don't need a poll to demonstrate that common sense proves you wrong,
How many times have you went bowling recently?Because I might want to go bowling some day without getting shot.
Gunlovers and Republicans don't care if I get shot, or they would propose something other than doing nothing.
Honestly, I never thought I'd see so much concern from Republicans about gangbangers killing each other with handguns. You guys are just making excuses for lack of sensible gun control by comparing two different scenarios altogether.What rubs republicans the wrong way is 1) Dems getting all amped up over this stuff yet silent over the vast majority of shootings and 2) we would hardly have a shooting issue if you backed out urban blacks. Our homicide rate would be tiny. So all these responsible owners get punished over a fraction of the shootings that occur annually
How many times recently have you saved the day by preventing a crime with your high-powered 30-round hobby?Can you or I, or any gun legislation realistically stop it? Put away the psychos.
Yes they can operate from 1 round too 100.
How much ammo do you think people can carry? You have any idea how heavy that shit is
No because your stastics you will provide are insignificant.
How many times have you went bowling recently?
Do you live in the country? And I don’t mean that as a slight. I live in the most dangerous city in America. Shootings take place all around us. Car jackings. Etc. Our mall is full of gang bangers as you call them. They don’t just commit crimes against each other. Pretty naive post on your partHonestly, I never thought I'd see so much concern from Republicans about gangbangers killing each other with handguns. You guys are just making excuses for lack of sensible gun control by comparing two different scenarios altogether.
Isn't it relatively easy to avoid being a casualty of the drug shootings that are driving up the homicide rate, by just not engaging in drug transactions and not going down dark alleys at night? Can't people largely avoid that danger?
But tell me what that dead 14-year-old boy in Maine could have seen that would have warned him not to go bowling with his father a couple nights ago? What warned him that a gunlover was going to show up and kill people with a Republican-protected military rifle?
And what warning could the people have seen who that were butchered with a high powered weapon at the July 4 parade in Highland Park , or the 58 people killed with a high powered rifle at the country music concert in Las Vegas or the 19 children (and two adults) that were killed with an assault rifle at the grade school in Uvalde, Texas?
You guys don't show any interest whatsoever in protecting members of the general populace from high powered assault guns, and it's ridiculous that the excuse you offer for your inaction is a high homicide rate among gangbangers.
Have gangbangers started to vote straight Republican? Maybe they should,
Different lines for different people. No surprise there.
Define “gun control.” If thorough background checks and difficult licensing requirements and extensive safety training then I’m on board. If confiscation, then count me out. Been stated elsewhere - It’s harder to own and license and drive a car. No reason for that.
I live in a small country town in Indiana. Don't want or need this bullshit.How many times recently have you saved the day by preventing a crime with your high-powered 30-round hobby?
Honestly, I never thought I'd see so much concern from Republicans about gangbangers killing each other with handguns. You guys are just making excuses for lack of sensible gun control by comparing two different scenarios altogether.
Isn't it relatively easy to avoid being a casualty of the drug shootings that are driving up the homicide rate, by just not engaging in drug transactions and not going down dark alleys at night? Can't people largely avoid that danger?
But tell me what that dead 14-year-old boy in Maine could have seen that would have warned him not to go bowling with his father a couple nights ago? What warned him that a gunlover was going to show up and kill people with a Republican-protected military rifle?
And what warning could the people have seen who that were butchered with a high powered weapon at the July 4 parade in Highland Park , or the 58 people killed with a high powered rifle at the country music concert in Las Vegas or the 19 children (and two adults) that were killed with an assault rifle at the grade school in Uvalde, Texas?
You guys don't show any interest whatsoever in protecting members of the general populace from high powered assault guns, and it's ridiculous that the excuse you offer for your inaction is a high homicide rate among gangbangers.
Have gangbangers started to vote straight Republican? Maybe they should,
So don't like people questioning your opinion?I live in a small country town in Indiana. Don't want or need this bullshit.
Apparently you missed it again. 77% of mass shootings are perpetrated by handguns.Honestly, I never thought I'd see so much concern from Republicans about gangbangers killing each other with handguns. You guys are just making excuses for lack of sensible gun control by comparing two different scenarios altogether.
Isn't it relatively easy to avoid being a casualty of the drug shootings that are driving up the homicide rate, by just not engaging in drug transactions and not going down dark alleys at night? Can't people largely avoid that danger?
But tell me what that dead 14-year-old boy in Maine could have seen that would have warned him not to go bowling with his father a couple nights ago? What warned him that a gunlover was going to show up and kill people with a Republican-protected military rifle?
And what warning could the people have seen who that were butchered with a high powered weapon at the July 4 parade in Highland Park , or the 58 people killed with a high powered rifle at the country music concert in Las Vegas or the 19 children (and two adults) that were killed with an assault rifle at the grade school in Uvalde, Texas?
You guys don't show any interest whatsoever in protecting members of the general populace from high powered assault guns, and it's ridiculous that the excuse you offer for your inaction is a high homicide rate among gangbangers.
Have gangbangers started to vote straight Republican? Maybe they should,
Honestly, I never thought I'd see so much concern from Republicans about gangbangers killing each other with handguns. You guys are just making excuses for lack of sensible gun control by comparing two different scenarios altogether.
Isn't it relatively easy to avoid being a casualty of the drug shootings that are driving up the homicide rate, by just not engaging in drug transactions and not going down dark alleys at night? Can't people largely avoid that danger?
But tell me what that dead 14-year-old boy in Maine could have seen that would have warned him not to go bowling with his father a couple nights ago? What warned him that a gunlover was going to show up and kill people with a Republican-protected military rifle?
And what warning could the people have seen who that were butchered with a high powered weapon at the July 4 parade in Highland Park , or the 58 people killed with a high powered rifle at the country music concert in Las Vegas or the 19 children (and two adults) that were killed with an assault rifle at the grade school in Uvalde, Texas?
You guys don't show any interest whatsoever in protecting members of the general populace from high powered assault guns, and it's ridiculous that the excuse you offer for your inaction is a high homicide rate among gangbangers.
Have gangbangers started to vote straight Republican? Maybe they should,
Stuffshot is hickory stupid. No idea why I respond to his stupid assApparently you missed it again. 77% of mass shootings are perpetrated by handguns.
Its a people problem foremost stop being a dick head
Your opinion is shit and I'm not giving up a goddamn thing.So don't like people questioning your opinion?
You live in a city run by Dems EVERYWHERE you go you have to be on the lookout. Art museum. Blues game. Everywhere. Can’t take the train. Too dangerous. Dems Dems Dems. Got it? Not a single gun legalGetting rid of assault weapons would make things better.
Doing nothing because of the argument in your post would not make anything better.
We don't have to end all shootings to make things better -- that's a false argument.
Your people skills are shit but that is a you problemYour opinion is shit and I'm not giving up a goddamn thing.
Every single thing business leaders do to make this city safer is in spite of or in response to the F up Dems. Every last thing.Honestly, I never thought I'd see so much concern from Republicans about gangbangers killing each other with handguns. You guys are just making excuses for lack of sensible gun control by comparing two different scenarios altogether.
Isn't it relatively easy to avoid being a casualty of the drug shootings that are driving up the homicide rate, by just not engaging in drug transactions and not going down dark alleys at night? Can't people largely avoid that danger?
But tell me what that dead 14-year-old boy in Maine could have seen that would have warned him not to go bowling with his father a couple nights ago? What warned him that a gunlover was going to show up and kill people with a Republican-protected military rifle?
And what warning could the people have seen who that were butchered with a high powered weapon at the July 4 parade in Highland Park , or the 58 people killed with a high powered rifle at the country music concert in Las Vegas or the 19 children (and two adults) that were killed with an assault rifle at the grade school in Uvalde, Texas?
You guys don't show any interest whatsoever in protecting members of the general populace from high powered assault guns, and it's ridiculous that the excuse you offer for your inaction is a high homicide rate among gangbangers.
Have gangbangers started to vote straight Republican? Maybe they should,
So, then, do you walk around with an assault rifle to protect yourself? I doubt that. You wouldn't miss an assault weapon ban,Do you live in the country? And I don’t mean that as a slight. I live in the most dangerous city in America. Shootings take place all around us. Car jackings. Etc. Our mall is full of gang bangers as you call them. They don’t just commit crimes against each other. Pretty naive post on your part
You’re estimate is way too lowSo, then, do you walk around with an assault rifle to protect yourself? I doubt that. You wouldn't miss an assault weapon ban,
The gangbanger/street crime problem and the massive-massacres-in-public-spaces-with-assault-rifles problem are distinct. Neither should be used as an excuse not to deal with the other.
If Republicans don't care about human life in Maine maybe they should consider the economic loss:
-- 18 funerals plus 18 post mortems. (Funerals can be $5,000 to $10,000 each or more). Every deceased probably was given a dna and toxicology test plus imaging. Ballistics tests too. It all adds up quickly.
-- 13 surviving gunshot victims. $2,000 or more per night for hospital stays, plus several thousand per surgery, several more thousand per patient for medications and anesthesia and imagine and toxicology. Time off from work for loved ones of the victims.
-- Closures of several days and lost income for the bowling alley and restaurant and numerous other businesses.
-- Lockdowns and school closings over a large area.
-- Overtime and equipment rental for the cops searching for the shooter.
By the time this is over, I can see the expense being $3-4 million or more,
Maybe Republicans will come around when they realize the horrendous expense an assault rifle massacre costs us.
Your people skills are shit but that is a you problem
You are such a stupid ass. Did it not resonate. WE HAVE SHOOTINGS AT OUR ART MUSEUM. MY MALL. MY PARK. this isn’t gang on gang. THIS IS A PRODUCT OF DEM PROSECUTORS AND DEMS ATTACKING COPS and endless shitty Dem policies. We have what happened in Maine 25x in numbers every year. DO YOU UNDERSTAND?So, then, do you walk around with an assault rifle to protect yourself? I doubt that. You wouldn't miss an assault weapon ban,
The gangbanger/street crime problem and the massive-massacres-in-public-spaces-with-assault-rifles problem are distinct. Neither should be used as an excuse not to deal with the other.
If Republicans don't care about human life in Maine maybe they should consider the economic loss:
-- 18 funerals plus 18 post mortems. (Funerals can be $5,000 to $10,000 each or more). Every deceased probably was given a dna and toxicology test plus imaging. Ballistics tests too. It all adds up quickly.
-- 13 surviving gunshot victims. $2,000 or more per night for hospital stays, plus several thousand per surgery, several more thousand per patient for medications and anesthesia and imagine and toxicology. Time off from work for loved ones of the victims.
-- Closures of several days and lost income for the bowling alley and restaurant and numerous other businesses.
-- Lockdowns and school closings over a large area.
-- Overtime and equipment rental for the cops searching for the shooter.
By the time this is over, I can see the expense being $3-4 million or more,
Maybe Republicans will come around when they realize the horrendous expense an assault rifle massacre costs us.
So you oppose eliminating assault rifles because doing so would only eliminate 23% of the gun deaths?Apparently you missed it again. 77% of mass shootings are perpetrated by handguns.
Its a people problem foremost stop being a dick head