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Ivermectin a promising drug...

FOX I know, so it’s not adequate.

I think that Dr. is running a public coup to overthrow Fauci. This was his initial interview press release. :)
 
Isn’t Maddow and MSNBC better than this? She still hasn’t taken this lie down. Can someone explain to me why Twitter hasn’t taken it down?

I don’t need to hear anymore about FOX.

No, she's not better than this.

Madcow's a total shill for the Dimocrat party. But she impresses the mentally weak because she spouts the Dim talking points with such conviction.
 
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Can you provide a citation showing this claim is false?
The Facebook page entry dated 4 Sept. at 9:52am for NHS Sequoyah, the provider slandered by Rolling Stoned mag. tells the story:

Dr. McElyea is not employed by NHS-S
Employed by a contractor.
Has not worked at NHS-S for two months.

NHS-S has treated no patients for Ivermectin complications or overdose.

All patients presenting at ER have received appropriate care.

No patients seeking ER care have been turned away.

It's a pure lie...!
 
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The Facebook page entry dated 4 Sept. at 9:52am for NHS Sequoyah, the provider slandered by Rolling Stoned mag. tells the story:

Dr. McElyea is not employed by NHS-S
Employed by a contractor.
Has not worked at NHS-S for two months.

NHS-S has treated no patients for Ivermectin complications or overdose.

All patients presenting at ER have received appropriate care.

No patients seeking ER care have been turned away.

It's a pure lie@
So you cite a Facebook post to refute a Twitter post.

The world has gone mad.
 
So you cite a Facebook post to refute a Twitter post.

The world has gone mad.
The Facebook home site for the NHS-S
Is what I read. Not a post on Twattter from some random liar who led about all of the 'progressive' print, TV, and e-media down the rabbit hole.
 
DOCTOR Eric Greitens
...who resigned in disgrace to evade sure impeachment, after being indicted on felony charges, and who has also been charged with sexual assault by his hairdresser, a charge ruled "credible" after a bipartisan investigation...
 
...who resigned in disgrace to evade sure impeachment, after being indicted on felony charges, and who has also been charged with sexual assault by his hairdresser, a charge ruled "credible" after a bipartisan investigation...
exactly. that doctorate from oxford doesn't insulate one from crazy. "Rachel" is a partisan hack like the rest of them. Good at school though. And they're all laughing their way to the bank so kudos I guess
 
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"Rachel" is a partisan hack like the rest of them
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I think that Don Lemon is a partisan hack.
I think that Sean Hannity is a partisan hack.
I think that Erin Burnett is a partisan hack.
I think that Tucker Carson is a partisan hack.

There are lots and lots of partisan hacks.

I do think that Rachael Maddow is clearly very partisan, but in general I like her ability to produce verifiable support / sources/ data for the issues that she discusses. She could well be in the wrong here, I don't know. I have not been watching much news lately. Taking a mental health break from TV news.
 
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I think that Don Lemon is a partisan hack.
I think that Sean Hannity is a partisan hack.
I think that Erin Burnett is a partisan hack.
I think that Tucker Carson is a partisan hack.

There are lots and lots of partisan hacks.

I do think that Rachael Maddow is clearly very partisan, but in general I like her ability to produce verifiable support / sources/ data for the issues that she discusses. She could well be in the wrong here, I don't know.
i saw tucker on the other night and he was on a set that had like wood paneling and shit to make it look rustic. and he was wearing a plaid shirt. is he now trying to come across as a rugged individualist? maybe he thinks we've forgotten his cnn msnbc years. i guess people change. i don't know. i still remember jimmy kimmel doing his karl malone impressions
 
i saw tucker on the other night and he was on a set that had like wood paneling and shit to make it look rustic. and he was wearing a plaid shirt. is he now trying to come across as a rugged individualist? maybe he thinks we've forgotten his cnn msnbc years. i guess people change. i don't know. i still remember jimmy kimmel doing his karl malone impressions
Did he have a gun rack in his pick-em up truck?

(Loved the Kimmel/karl malone bits).
 
Did he have a gun rack in his pick-em up truck?

(Loved the Kimmel/karl malone bits).
If he ever had a gun rack he surely didn't ever have a rifle bigger than a pellet rifle or .22.
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The recoil of a big rifle would hurt him and make him cry. But he still would blame Biden and other Democrats.
 
FOX I know, so it’s not adequate.


Not as sexy or sensational, but this should be taken seriously (read the article, the headline doesn't convey the full import):

 
Not as sexy or sensational, but this should be taken seriously (read the article, the headline doesn't convey the full import):

the alternative care facilities (second class facilities ) should go to the unvaccinated. and as i've belabored the shit out of the point measures need to be taken to expand care. here's where details matter. all of northern idaho only has 36 icu beds. for 300,000 residents for ten counties only two hospitals have icu beds and they total 36. so in that case, what, five covid cases could "overwhelm the system" if they are already at 75 percent as most are.
 
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the alternative care facilities (second class facilities ) should go to the unvaccinated. and as i've belabored the shit out of the point measures need to be taken to expand care. here's where details matter. all of northern idaho only has 36 icu beds. for 300,000 residents for ten counties only two hospitals have icu beds and they total 36. so in that case, what, five covid cases could "overwhelm the system" if they are already at 75 percent as most are.
Woulda, coulda, shoula. Meanwhile, the ICU beds are full of morons. That's the reality on the ground.
 
Woulda, coulda, shoula. Meanwhile, the ICU beds are full of morons. That's the reality on the ground.
and the fear porn never ends. The headline is never northern idaho has 36 icu beds. they had 29 occupied and now with 5 covid patients may have to consider rationing treatment. it's always something more shocking and sensational than just the truth. cases have skyrocketed!! there's a severe shortage covering ten hospitals!!!!! well only two even have icu beds. the icu is an issue, but so too is the endless media fear porn that has given rise to silly shutdowns and all the deleterious effects that attend same. it's information presented with a slant. what will be the suggestion from fauci for a community like the panhandle? lock it down? homeschooling? because there's 5 covid patients in the icu that will impact 300,000.

trump did nothing. biden has done nothing. at some point we need to do something else. we need innovation. we need care expansion. we need to earmark monies for care expansion. maybe we need to relax standards for triage issues. maybe we need waivers and indemnification. but the endless fear porn does nothing but cast a doom and gloom over the country.

the reality is that the number of covid patients in icu are a tiny, tiny, tiny fraction of our population yet their impact is ubiquitous bc the media and fauci and the rest have us wound up like baseballs. the cure is becoming worse than the disease. we're into the third academic year.
 
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and the fear porn never ends. The headline is never northern idaho has 36 icu beds. they had 29 occupied and now with 5 covid patients may have to consider rationing treatment. it's always something more shocking and sensational than just the truth. cases have skyrocketed!! there's a severe shortage covering ten hospitals!!!!! well only two even have icu beds. the icu is an issue, but so too is the endless media fear porn that has given rise to silly shutdowns and all the deleterious effects that attend same. it's information presented with a slant. what will be the suggestion from fauci for a community like the panhandle? lock it down? homeschooling? because there's 5 covid patients in the icu that will impact 300,000.

trump did nothing. biden has done nothing. at some point we need to do something else. we need innovation. we need care expansion. we need to earmark monies for care expansion. maybe we need to relax standards for triage issues. maybe we need waivers and indemnification. but the endless fear porn does nothing but cast a doom and gloom over the country.

the reality is that the number of covid patients in icu are a tiny, tiny, tiny fraction of our population yet their impact is ubiquitous bc the media and fauci and the rest have us wound up like baseballs. the cure is becoming worse than the disease. we're into the third academic year.

Raw numbers are more, Indiana has over 2100 beds with about 32% positivity. It comes to 681 people in ICUs with COVID. There are over 2000 in the hospital, with COVID. If 2000 Hoosiers were hospitalized because of planes crashing, do you think air travel would be stopped.
 
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Raw numbers are more, Indiana has over 2100 beds with about 32% positivity. It comes to 681 people in ICUs with COVID. There are over 2000 in the hospital, with COVID. If 2000 Hoosiers were hospitalized because of planes crashing, do you think air travel would be stopped.
i'm not following marv. hit me with it again. and for the record i was commenting particularly on the region citied in that article. part of my issue with all of this is the blanket coverage.
 
I am saying the problem is far more than 4 people in Idaho. It is over 2000 people in Indiana alone.
part of my indictment is the media's presentation as reflected in my post(s) above and the impact it's having on our collective psyche. the other is that the fact remains it's 4 people for a community of 300,000. indiana is immaterial to what's going on in idaho. if a lesson can be learned from this nightmare is that our care, our critical care, isn't equipped to handle a mass crisis and something needs to be done to address same going forward. we certainly have the money. we're kicking around 3.5 trillion as we speak. it'll never happen but maybe what sope had suggested about a more regionally based gov setup.
 
Raw numbers are more, Indiana has over 2100 beds with about 32% positivity. It comes to 681 people in ICUs with COVID. There are over 2000 in the hospital, with COVID. If 2000 Hoosiers were hospitalized because of planes crashing, do you think air travel would be stopped.
681 in ICu beds, over how many ICU beds available? 682? Spread across how many hospitals? The first part of you post only deminstrates what MM was saying.
But the 2nd part of your post is spot effing on!
 
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part of my indictment is the media's presentation as reflected in my post(s) above and the impact it's having on our collective psyche. the other is that the fact remains it's 4 people for a community of 300,000. indiana is immaterial to what's going on in idaho. if a lesson can be learned from this nightmare is that our care, our critical care, isn't equipped to handle a mass crisis and something needs to be done to address same going forward. we certainly have the money. we're kicking around 3.5 trillion as we speak. it'll never happen but maybe what sope had suggested about a more regionally based gov setup.

Indiana may be immaterial, how about Idaho. Idaho has about 500 hospitalized with over 150 in the ICU.

 
and the fear porn never ends. The headline is never northern idaho has 36 icu beds. they had 29 occupied and now with 5 covid patients may have to consider rationing treatment. it's always something more shocking and sensational than just the truth. cases have skyrocketed!! there's a severe shortage covering ten hospitals!!!!! well only two even have icu beds. the icu is an issue, but so too is the endless media fear porn that has given rise to silly shutdowns and all the deleterious effects that attend same. it's information presented with a slant. what will be the suggestion from fauci for a community like the panhandle? lock it down? homeschooling? because there's 5 covid patients in the icu that will impact 300,000.

trump did nothing. biden has done nothing. at some point we need to do something else. we need innovation. we need care expansion. we need to earmark monies for care expansion. maybe we need to relax standards for triage issues. maybe we need waivers and indemnification. but the endless fear porn does nothing but cast a doom and gloom over the country.

the reality is that the number of covid patients in icu are a tiny, tiny, tiny fraction of our population yet their impact is ubiquitous bc the media and fauci and the rest have us wound up like baseballs. the cure is becoming worse than the disease. we're into the third academic year.
Love this, with one exception. Trump super ramped ventilator prodcution, hospital beds and supplies. Used gov resources to build emergency facilities including an entire war time ship, all while managing around the FDA bureaucracies for a vax. Impossible to say Trump did nothing, it's just simple facts. Biden tried, but really he was given only low hanging fruit and still eff'ed it up. Of course pre election, his own people saying they wouldn't take the vax kind of shot themesleves in the foot.
Once they start lying, it's hard to remember what you said at the last press release. And this is not a Trump stump speech, it's just credit where credit is due.
 
Indiana may be immaterial, how about Idaho. Idaho has about 500 hospitalized with over 150 in the ICU.

And Idaho has 2 million people. that's 0.0075% in the icu from covid. yet it's presented as idaho is in crisis mode from covid. and technically they may be because they don't have adequate care. it's a care issue not a covid issue imo if 0.0075% of the population can be that impactful.

you read articles like that linked above, national articles, and it has a deleterious impact on all of society. the mental health of society. the optimism. the desire to start a business. continue business. get fired up for school. on and on.

the vaccines are no panacea. they are a god send and certainly another weapon for us to fight with going forward. but we need to look at other stuff - care expansion. hell joehoopsier noted it in his post w/ trump's efforts
 
And Idaho has 2 million people. that's 0.0075% in the icu from covid. yet it's presented as idaho is in crisis mode from covid. and technically they may be because they don't have adequate care. it's a care issue not a covid issue imo if 0.0075% of the population can be that impactful.

you read articles like that linked above, national articles, and it has a deleterious impact on all of society. the mental health of society. the optimism. the desire to start a business. continue business. get fired up for school. on and on.

the vaccines are no panacea. they are a god send and certainly another weapon for us to fight with going forward. but we need to look at other stuff - care expansion. hell joehoopsier noted it in his post w/ trump's efforts
My guess is the ICU occupancy (and general hospital beds) and deaths from a single cause has never been this high in Idaho since Spanish Flu. No matter how one slices it, it is the worst public health problem in 100 years. It is literally a once in a hundred year storm.
 
My guess is the ICU occupancy (and general hospital beds) and deaths from a single cause has never been this high in Idaho since Spanish Flu. No matter how one slices it, it is the worst public health problem in 100 years. It is literally a once in a hundred year storm.
and it's lingering. we're not reaching herd immunity. so it's either going ot subside of its own volition or we're going to have to start to contrive measures other than panic mode because 4 people have been added to icus in a community of 300,000
 
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I am saying the problem is far more than 4 people in Idaho. It is over 2000 people in Indiana alone.
And just to make it a little more local, IU Health Bloomington Hospital has hit pause on any elective procedures for at least two weeks. My wife got her knee done just in time, and it had been delayed since last year.
 
My guess is the ICU occupancy (and general hospital beds) and deaths from a single cause has never been this high in Idaho since Spanish Flu. No matter how one slices it, it is the worst public health problem in 100 years. It is literally a once in a hundred year storm.
What have they done over the past 16 months to improve their situation after seeing this happen in many locations last year?
 
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What have they done over the past 16 months to improve their situation after seeing this happen in many locations last year?
exactly. what has anyhwere done. and i get it. the fix is a bitch. there's a dearth of doctors and PAs to treat etc. but there are folks who have written on innovations and ways to address the shortage. it just seems like groundhog day
 
And just to make it a little more local, IU Health Bloomington Hospital has hit pause on any elective procedures for at least two weeks. My wife got her knee done just in time, and it had been delayed since last year.
Elective procedures? Mostly people that haven’t taken care of themselves or made bad choices. They should be turned away in the eyes of some…
 
exactly. what has anyhwere done. and i get it. the fix is a bitch. there's a dearth of doctors and PAs to treat etc. but there are folks who have written on innovations and ways to address the shortage. it just seems like groundhog day
It costs too much relative to the risk.
 
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