Galapagos count? Caymans? Yes I have multiple people I care about and who care about me, both friends and family. Honestly can’t imagine being much happier. But thanks for your concern. Now let’s hear about your happy life… since you present as a 90 year old grouch.
Could just be me, but it seems like the more known DeSantis becomes, the less people like him.
I've been following DeSantis since he first ran for governor against Gillum. Something seems off. I don't know if it's his emotional affect or if he even experiences much in the way of emotion. He always seems to be in some kind of an intense, almost robotic, overdrive mode. The smiles look fake and he doesn't seem real.
Desantis definitely does not have a likeable personality.
Desantis served his country and has an Ivy League education- he’s not dumb by any stretch. But he seems to be trying to get to the right of Trump, which I think is not bright. At some point the GOP needs to accept that Trump is too far right for the general election. The centrists gave his populist message a chance in 2016- we all know now he’s not a good president. The country just needs Biden or Trump to drop in the next 15 months. DeSantis is losing his large money donors- the bloom is off DeSantis
Perhaps for future national office, but DeSalestax is done for '24. Paleocons, Libertarians, and Alt-Right understand the big-money establishment behind him, and continue to move away.
I’m going end of January. How weird is that? Working hard on getting in shape for volcano hike!
I don’t take any polling 6 months before a primary seriously
I don't either, so forget the polling. Look at the other critical factors. He's laying off staffers left and right. His small-dollars donors - - the people who vote - - are disappearing and there seems to be little enthusiasm for his campaign. As discussed earlier, he's got no charisma. Finally, why vote for Trump Lite when you can have the real thing? All of these things are badly hurting him.
Trump is further left than the majority of the GOP's sitting Senators.
thehill.com
Maybe, since he's got a lot of money... But the debate will be crucial for him, and (not sure if you remember it or not) I was talking about his weakness as a national campaigner and his lack of personality and inability to deal with a hostile press, long before he even announced. It's one thing to hold press conferences/victory laps in a controlled environment in a room full of supporters in FL. But being told you have to remember to smile and seem likable- that's not exactly Charisma...
jamanetwork.com
Too far right? lmao
www.politico.com
A 2015 article is really pertinent to the discussion.Too far right? lmao
Trump has spent years courting Hillary and other Dems
Trump been generous with the Clinton Foundation and Democrats.
Oh, so he suddenly went from giving huge chunks of money to the Clintons to a far-righty?
I wouldn’t want to count on DeSantis turning things around via debates. I watched his debate against Gillum and came away thinking he was just awful. IMO, he was so bad that I thought Gillum had a real shot to win that election. Gillum, a crackhead.Maybe, since he's got a lot of money... But the debate will be crucial for him, and (not sure if you remember it or not) I was talking about his weakness as a national campaigner and his lack of personality and inability to deal with a hostile press, long before he even announced. It's one thing to hold press conferences/victory laps in a controlled environment in a room full of supporters in FL. But being told you have to remember to smile and seem likable- that's not exactly Charisma...
He really hasn't proven anything. He was languishing in 3rd place in the GOP Primary for Governor in 2018, before he sucked up to Trump and got an endorsement that boosted him to the nomination. He barely beat Gillum,then won what he decided was a resounding victory over worn out Crist in the 2022 race. But the Dem party in FL is not representative of the National Dem party.
What RD never mentions about his race is that less people (specifically less Dems voted in FL in 2022, than in 2018. However that didn't necessarily mean they voted for DeSantis. Crist got nearly 1 million less votes than Gillum in 2018, but DeSanti's 2022 total only increased by 500,000. And there was a 3rd party cnadidate who got 100,000 votes in 2018, so clearly a lot of Dems just didn't bother to vote in 2022 in FL...
A study just released this week studied covid deaths in Ohio and FL between Red and Blue counties from March 2020 thru Dec 2021. Interestingly enough they discovered that when there was no vaccine there was no gap, but after the vaccine became widespread they discovered that there was a higher excess mortality rate between Red and Blue counties in both states, although it was more pronouned in Ohio. FL was also a state where the mortality rate increased after the vaccine was widely available in the study which used 5/1/21 as the date between the 2 phases.
Here is a copy of the study and the metrics...
Excess Death Rates for Republican and Democratic Voters in Florida and Ohio During the COVID-19 Pandemic
This cross-sectional study examines the differences in excess death rates between Republican and Democratic voters in Florida and Ohio after the COVID-19 vaccine became available for all adults.
Now this is where DeSantis becomes vulnerable over his covid policy...It could even hurt him with people who are inclined to view him as the anti-vax warrior, the image he seeks to foster. The truth is Ron was initially very pro-vaccine, and even courted controversy over his desire to insure certain populations had access to it first...
We discussed it on this very board, the way Ron made sure that Publix (who happens to be a huge campaign contributor) was given exclusive access to distribute the vaccine initially. There was also controversy over the fact that certain wealthy donor class citizens seemed to be able to bypass more at risk populations. Don't need to rehash those issues, but the point is that DeSantis started out VERY pro-vaccine...
That sentiment continued from May 1 2021 (when the vaccine became widespreadly available) until July 2021.
Up until that point FL was a leader in the vaccine crusade, and actually led the country in vaccine rates.
However by July 2021, the vaccine had become a political football, and after sticking his finger up to gauge the political winds DeSantis stopped promoting the vaccine and basically did a 180 on the importance of preventing covid.. Consequently FL's vaccination rates fell and the vax rates of younger adults dropped below the national average,
Consequently when the Delta variant hit FL was extremely vulnerable. FL was the state hit hardest by Delta with 23,000 Floridians ( 9000 younger than 65) dying from the deadly variant.. From July 2021 -Oct 2021, FL represented 14% of covid deaths, despite only comprising 7% of the US population.
And yes the stats are age adjusted, and while it's true that FL is probably the oldest state (population wise) that fact was also true in the period up to July 2021, when FL's death rate was below states like CA and NY, and FL did not lead the nation in covid deaths like they did post July 2021...So clearly someting in FL changed post May 2021, and coincidentally enough that was the same period of time when DeSantis flip flopped on the vaccine.
The DeSantis flip flop shows up early in this video...
Of course he did. Where have you been? He doesn’t have many true beliefs. He became a wing nut so he could win over all the wing nuts like you. He knew he could never win the Democratic nomination.
No true beliefs? I thought he's supposed to be a far right-winger?
You should hang it up for the night, because if you aren’t drunk you sure are acting like it.
Too early for most polls. Especially national polling. Some states don’t have party registration and open primaries. Biden was polling under 10% for a long timeMaybe, since he's got a lot of money... But the debate will be crucial for him, and (not sure if you remember it or not) I was talking about his weakness as a national campaigner and his lack of personality and inability to deal with a hostile press, long before he even announced. It's one thing to hold press conferences/victory laps in a controlled environment in a room full of supporters in FL. But being told you have to remember to smile and seem likable- that's not exactly Charisma...
He really hasn't proven anything. He was languishing in 3rd place in the GOP Primary for Governor in 2018, before he sucked up to Trump and got an endorsement that boosted him to the nomination. He barely beat Gillum,then won what he decided was a resounding victory over worn out Crist in the 2022 race. But the Dem party in FL is not representative of the National Dem party.
What RD never mentions about his race is that less people (specifically less Dems voted in FL in 2022, than in 2018. However that didn't necessarily mean they voted for DeSantis. Crist got nearly 1 million less votes than Gillum in 2018, but DeSanti's 2022 total only increased by 500,000. And there was a 3rd party cnadidate who got 100,000 votes in 2018, so clearly a lot of Dems just didn't bother to vote in 2022 in FL...
A study just released this week studied covid deaths in Ohio and FL between Red and Blue counties from March 2020 thru Dec 2021. Interestingly enough they discovered that when there was no vaccine there was no gap, but after the vaccine became widespread they discovered that there was a higher excess mortality rate between Red and Blue counties in both states, although it was more pronouned in Ohio. FL was also a state where the mortality rate increased after the vaccine was widely available in the study which used 5/1/21 as the date between the 2 phases.
Here is a copy of the study and the metrics...
Excess Death Rates for Republican and Democratic Voters in Florida and Ohio During the COVID-19 Pandemic
This cross-sectional study examines the differences in excess death rates between Republican and Democratic voters in Florida and Ohio after the COVID-19 vaccine became available for all adults.
Now this is where DeSantis becomes vulnerable over his covid policy...It could even hurt him with people who are inclined to view him as the anti-vax warrior, the image he seeks to foster. The truth is Ron was initially very pro-vaccine, and even courted controversy over his desire to insure certain populations had access to it first...
We discussed it on this very board, the way Ron made sure that Publix (who happens to be a huge campaign contributor) was given exclusive access to distribute the vaccine initially. There was also controversy over the fact that certain wealthy donor class citizens seemed to be able to bypass more at risk populations. Don't need to rehash those issues, but the point is that DeSantis started out VERY pro-vaccine...
That sentiment continued from May 1 2021 (when the vaccine became widespreadly available) until July 2021.
Up until that point FL was a leader in the vaccine crusade, and actually led the country in vaccine rates.
However by July 2021, the vaccine had become a political football, and after sticking his finger up to gauge the political winds DeSantis stopped promoting the vaccine and basically did a 180 on the importance of preventing covid.. Consequently FL's vaccination rates fell and the vax rates of younger adults dropped below the national average,
Consequently when the Delta variant hit FL was extremely vulnerable. FL was the state hit hardest by Delta with 23,000 Floridians ( 9000 younger than 65) dying from the deadly variant.. From July 2021 -Oct 2021, FL represented 14% of covid deaths, despite only comprising 7% of the US population.
And yes the stats are age adjusted, and while it's true that FL is probably the oldest state (population wise) that fact was also true in the period up to July 2021, when FL's death rate was below states like CA and NY, and FL did not lead the nation in covid deaths like they did post July 2021...So clearly someting in FL changed post May 2021, and coincidentally enough that was the same period of time when DeSantis flip flopped on the vaccine.
The DeSantis flip flop shows up early in this video...
floridapolitics.com
Yes. Opioids. Mental health issues. Exacerbating homelessness and criminal behavior. Desantis is such a bright guy. And a doer. And young. I don’t understand why he can’t say “we’re facing a homeless epidemic in cities nationwide” instead of “…. we see in liberal cities.” It isn’t helpful. It’s divisive and causes people to dig their heels in or lash out.Not sure he's right. I'm very conflicted on this subject. But I think it's great that he's bringing it into the national conversation:
Ron DeSantis breaks with Ronald Reagan on mental health institutions
'We deinstitutionalized some 30 or 40 years ago. You know, I'm not sure that that was the right thing to do.'
Especially since he doesn't need to say it. The people he's worried about attracting with that language already have preconceived notions about cities being all liberal anyway.
Project number 8. Booked. Look for a google meet invite
Negative. Not until at least one of projects 1-7 break even.
You'd have to teach mcm666 how to use capital letters and complete sentences.
A couple of months ago to meet Goth chicks, I think.
It backfired when he walked into a coven with a SBUX iced caramel macchiato.
you dont change dream team….dream team changes u
