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An interesting thread on Hamas using TikTok

First off thank you Lord for creating a long enough bowl movement during the cheer event I'm at to read that.

That was a crazy tik tok lesson. Holy crap talk about steering and managing content. Very disturbing.
 
You have to do one of two things if you are the government and both of them will appear draconian. One is to run your own propaganda campaign on the platform and the other is to just shut it down. I vote for the latter.
 
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It's a problem that needs to be addressed.
x 10. Its been discussed and almost banned. Its obvious they push bad content these kids way and they are swayed. Most of these kids have no clue what they are for for as they just follow the crowd. The history, blah, blah, blah, if HISTORY is really being taught. Then you have all these schools with China money so who knows what in the hell these kids are learning and passing along. ugggghhhh. How did we get here? Distraction.
 
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TikTok divestment bill is supported by WSJ Ed Board

“Xi Jinping has eviscerated any distinction between the government and private companies. ByteDance employs hundreds of employees who previously worked at state-owned media outlets. A former head of engineering in ByteDance’s U.S. offices has alleged that the Communist Party had a special office or unit in the company sometimes referred to as the Committee.”


“Chinese law requires ByteDance to comply with Beijing’s surveillance demands. This is why there is no way to mitigate TikTok’s security risks besides a forced divestment. U.S. investors have expressed interest in buying TikTok, though a Chinese government official last year said it would block a sale. If TikTok is banned, users can blame Beijing.”
 
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Money talks for Musk. He doesn’t want to make CCP mad. This is nothing new from him regarding the CCP
 

Going to pass bigly in the House. Amazing decoy play by the Biden admin. Tik Tok thought it was all safe because Biden joined the app in January.... They (Tiktok lobbyists) went home and felt they won. All the time the admin and bipartisan group of House members were working this bill.

Still have to get it over the line in the Senate.

Of course Trump now out opposing a ban it because he's never not a hypocrite . When asked is it a national security threat... 'yeah probably' but don't ban it because it would help Facebook. Even Bannon calling him out claiming he sold out to Yass's money on this issue.

Fk him.
 
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Going to pass bigly in the House. Amazing decoy play by the Biden admin. Tik Tok thought it was all safe because Biden joined the app in January.... They (Tiktok lobbyists) went home and felt they won. All the time the admin and bipartisan group of House members were working this bill.

Still have to get it over the line in the Senate.

Of course Trump now out opposing a ban it because he's never not a hypocrite . When asked is it a national security threat... 'yeah probably' but don't ban it because it would help Facebook. Even Bannon calling him out claiming he sold out to Yass's money on this issue.

Fk him.
Based on the statement put out by the WSJ Editorial Board…wouldn’t that logic broadly apply to US-China investment flows?
 
TikTok divestment bill is supported by WSJ Ed Board

“Xi Jinping has eviscerated any distinction between the government and private companies. ByteDance employs hundreds of employees who previously worked at state-owned media outlets. A former head of engineering in ByteDance’s U.S. offices has alleged that the Communist Party had a special office or unit in the company sometimes referred to as the Committee.”


“Chinese law requires ByteDance to comply with Beijing’s surveillance demands. This is why there is no way to mitigate TikTok’s security risks besides a forced divestment. U.S. investors have expressed interest in buying TikTok, though a Chinese government official last year said it would block a sale. If TikTok is banned, users can blame Beijing.”
Of interest may be the 100+ former C_A, FBI, NSA, and other feds Elon discovered controlling content and reach at Twitter when he took over.
Ask yourself what their purpose was?
 
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Of interest may be the 100+ former C_A, FBI, NSA, and other feds Elon discovered controlling content and reach at Twitter when he took over.
Ask yourself what their purpose was?
Yep…we discussed how outrageous that was.

When it comes to the CCP….Elon has previously sold his soul.



Promoting “Core Socialist Values”
 
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Going to pass bigly in the House. Amazing decoy play by the Biden admin. Tik Tok thought it was all safe because Biden joined the app in January.... They (Tiktok lobbyists) went home and felt they won. All the time the admin and bipartisan group of House members were working this bill.

Still have to get it over the line in the Senate.

Of course Trump now out opposing a ban it because he's never not a hypocrite . When asked is it a national security threat... 'yeah probably' but don't ban it because it would help Facebook. Even Bannon calling him out claiming he sold out to Yass's money on this issue.

Fk him.
I guess we will watch MAGA contorts themselves to go pro Tik Tok now. It is truly mind blowing to see how Trump has totally taken over the GOP.
 
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I guess we will watch MAGA contorts themselves to go pro Tik Tok now. It is truly mind blowing to see how Trump has totally taken over the GOP.
This comment is laughably stupid. The point being made by non-propagandists is that a takedown of any site without due process means ANYTHING is fair game.
Telegram, Discord, TruthSocial, the Chans..
anything.
The 'republican ' party is dead. There’s been no distinction between the parties for decades.
President Trump's message reaches Libertarians and the Alternative Right.
 
This comment is laughably stupid. The point being made by non-propagandists is that a takedown of any site without due process means ANYTHING is fair game.
Telegram, Discord, TruthSocial, the Chans..

Mark you calendars. I agree with Mas.

There's no real difference between Tik Tok and Facebook and TwiX. Gonna ban one, ban them all. Sure, Tik Tok will hand over information to the Chinese government. Facebook and TwiX will do the same. And they routinely hand over info to the US government, as will your ISP and Google.

Remember a few years back when Kaspersky anti-virus got blackballed because of some hypothetical connection it had with Russia? That was a joke too.
 
Mark you calendars. I agree with Mas.

There's no real difference between Tik Tok and Facebook and TwiX. Gonna ban one, ban them all. Sure, Tik Tok will hand over information to the Chinese government. Facebook and TwiX will do the same. And they routinely hand over info to the US government, as will your ISP and Google.

Remember a few years back when Kaspersky anti-virus got blackballed because of some hypothetical connection it had with Russia? That was a joke too.

They aren't banning anything. They are forcing a sale to an entity that is not under control of the CCP.
 
They aren't banning anything. They are forcing a sale to an entity that is not under control of the CCP.

It's McMartin level hysteria pushed by clueless old fvcks who don't know anything about how this shit works.
 
It's McMartin level hysteria pushed by clueless old fvcks who don't know anything about how this shit works.

Is Rob Joyce a clueless old fk who doesn't know anything?

I think you are being ridiculously naive to think this is just something that's being concocted via wild hair by Congress without a lot of technical input from the intelligence community.

 
Is Rob Joyce a clueless old fk who doesn't know anything?

I think you are being ridiculously naive to think this is just something that's being concocted via wild hair by Congress without a lot of technical input from the intelligence community.


Tik Tok is just another social media app that can be used for psyops and spreading misinformation/ disinformation/ propaganda by foreign governments and/or other malevolent actors. Facebook and TwiX are no different, and nothing will be any different if there's a change of ownership.

Joyce believes TikTok is more subtle, and it shows Beijing's willingness to play the long game and use information operations as an offensive cyber strategy.
Beijing could "manipulate the data" that Americans see, Joyce continued, adding that this could include presenting "divisive materials." This may unduly influence their political and social leanings. China has done this previously with a slew of anti-American content on topics including the US government's COVID-19 response, racial inequality, divisions within the country, and inflation.
 
It's McMartin level hysteria pushed by clueless old fvcks who don't know anything about how this shit works.
The correct argument against TikTok is free trade and reciprocity. If Instagram and Facebook are banned in China then we shouldn’t allow Chinese owned apps here.
 
Mark you calendars. I agree with Mas.

There's no real difference between Tik Tok and Facebook and TwiX. Gonna ban one, ban them all. Sure, Tik Tok will hand over information to the Chinese government. Facebook and TwiX will do the same. And they routinely hand over info to the US government, as will your ISP and Google.

Remember a few years back when Kaspersky anti-virus got blackballed because of some hypothetical connection it had with Russia? That was a joke too.
Leaving media platforms subject to the whims of the CCP is not conducive to American liberty and prosperity.

You can also include corporations, politicians…
 
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This is fascinating and important. Retitle this thread to get more traction. “Hamas (and China?) using TikTok to radicalize US youth” might work.
Unfortunately, all of those are probably using Youtube, X and countless others as well to radicalize youth, elderly, middle agers and grade schoolers too. It's not very encouraging.
 
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This comment is laughably stupid. The point being made by non-propagandists is that a takedown of any site without due process means ANYTHING is fair game.
Telegram, Discord, TruthSocial, the Chans..
anything.
The 'republican ' party is dead. There’s been no distinction between the parties for decades.
President Trump's message reaches Libertarians and the Alternative Right.
What due process is needed to prove Tik Tok is owned and run by the CCP?
 
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Yes. And we can and do regulate them. We cannot regulate the CCP. Therefore, this bill.
I wish they would regulate Farva. They say they can't because he keeps changing his username.

Brad, if you or I owned a bar and banned a customer for bad behavior, don't you think we'd still be able to ban him if he later came into the bar but claimed he had changed his name?
 
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