If you have a conservative bone in your body there’s only one choice: DONALD JOHN TRUMP. Two radical progressives of moderate intelligence who have spent their adult lives collecting gov checks with big ideas to change things. Or a low watt 80 year old who will spend his first day pardoning himself then fall into a deep slumber until he leaves office accomplishing exactly nothing. It’s a no-brainer
Yard Signs - The True Poll
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I agree with him to some extent. I’m not voting for Harris, but Trump has not and never will get my vote either. Those of us that are fiscally conservative and live and let live on social issues are out in the wilderness right now. My preference is right of center and that’s just not a thing right now.
That is true and I understand why a "conservative" would pass on him. None of us have disagreed with that. The part we disagree with is someone claiming to be a conservative, while voting for a socialist with marxist leanings.
I believe the same can be said of those just left of center
You're not alone.
"We believe that the president of the United States must be a principled, serious and steady leader who can advance and defend American security and values, strengthen our alliances and protect our democracy. We expect to disagree with Kamala Harris on many domestic and foreign policy issues, but we believe that she possesses the essential qualities to serve as president and Donald Trump does not.
"We appreciate that many Republicans prefer Donald Trump to Kamala Harris, for a variety of reasons. We recognize and do not disparage their potential concerns, including about some of the positions advocated by the left wing of the Democratic party. But any potential concerns pale in comparison to Donald Trump’s demonstrated chaotic and unethical behavior and disregard for our Republic’s time-tested principles of constitutional governance. His unpredictable nature is not the negotiating virtue he extols. To the contrary, in matters of national security, his demeanor invites equally erratic behavior from our adversaries, which irresponsibly threatens reckless and dangerous global consequences.
"In short, Donald Trump cannot be trusted “to support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic . . . and bear true faith and allegiance to the same.” We believe that Kamala Harris can, and we urge other Americans to join us in supporting her."
Over 100 Republican National Security Leaders Endorse Vice President Harris
Donald Trump cannot be trusted “to support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic . . . and bear true faith and allegiance to the same.
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Walk the neighborhood almost daily and see no yard signs.
Only one person brings up the election at neighborhood porch parties. That person is from Thailand and has only recently gained her citizenship. This is her first federal election. She has proudly announced that she likes Trump.
As per Thai custom, she never comes to our porch without bringing a gift for Mrs. Hoot. Gotta love her.
The only argument I could see someone say is, "I don't want to vote for Kamala. I don't agree with her policies, but the only way that we are going to purge Trump from my party is to vote for Kamala (and all other Republicans down-ticket) so that he loses by 20 million votes. Maybe, just maybe, the message will be sent then that the Republican party needs to dump this guy. Kamala will not be able to do much damage if the Senate and House are solidly Republican. I can live with four years of that."
You have always been relatively homeless in that camp.
Honestly, I think the major change has been in rhetoric. The prior GOP talked a big game about being fiscally conservative but they didn't govern in that manner.
Look, I am not on board with the people saying to passively let the party you disagree with potentially win (by not voting for any of them) but I can at least live with that. It is the actively supporting someone who is antithetical to your stated beliefs that is just a non-starter for me. Harris isn't some Bill Clinton or Evan Bayh. She represents the most extreme wing of that party. Actively supporting her as a supposed "Republican" is nonsensical. There is nothing even remotely conservative about her.
I live in a neighborhood in the middle of farm land in The Region. Only one house with anything. They have a "Proud Union Member" flag and a Harris/Walz sign. Steel mill guy.
I think it would depend on where you live and whether it is a swing state or not. If you are in a solid red state to the point where your write-in vote is not going to change the results, you can walk away from the booth knowing that you held to your principles. If you truly think that Trump is a bridge too far to the point where the headaches that he will likely cause outweigh the damage that Harris could do (especially with a Repub. Congress), and you live in a state where it's going to be close enough to matter, then I don't see the issue with it.
If Trump loses, he is absolutely going to throw the kitchen sink at any possible whiff of voter fraud. The only way to prevent it (or at least de-tooth it) is to make the results so overwhelming against him that it is ridiculous to even speculate that there was cheating / fraud.
The bolded paragraph is exactly right. Trump just doesn't have the character, temperament, integrity or mental stability (and he's starting to decline mentally due to old age as well) to be trusted as President, especially as Commander in Chief. I don't trust him even slightly. He's totally unfit and should never be in the White House again. I won't vote for Harris like they say they will, but I will write in a good Republican for President.You're not alone.
"We believe that the president of the United States must be a principled, serious and steady leader who can advance and defend American security and values, strengthen our alliances and protect our democracy. We expect to disagree with Kamala Harris on many domestic and foreign policy issues, but we believe that she possesses the essential qualities to serve as president and Donald Trump does not.
"We appreciate that many Republicans prefer Donald Trump to Kamala Harris, for a variety of reasons. We recognize and do not disparage their potential concerns, including about some of the positions advocated by the left wing of the Democratic party. But any potential concerns pale in comparison to Donald Trump’s demonstrated chaotic and unethical behavior and disregard for our Republic’s time-tested principles of constitutional governance. His unpredictable nature is not the negotiating virtue he extols. To the contrary, in matters of national security, his demeanor invites equally erratic behavior from our adversaries, which irresponsibly threatens reckless and dangerous global consequences.
"In short, Donald Trump cannot be trusted “to support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic . . . and bear true faith and allegiance to the same.” We believe that Kamala Harris can, and we urge other Americans to join us in supporting her."
Over 100 Republican National Security Leaders Endorse Vice President Harris
Donald Trump cannot be trusted “to support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic . . . and bear true faith and allegiance to the same.
I haven't mentioned the yard sign (poll) to my wife, interestingly she's been telling me the sign count after her walks. Today she told me she saw five Harris signs and three Trump signs. Surprised me a bit since I'm 99 percent certain Trump will win this county and this state.
She’s a Mao-wannabe
Cultural Revolutionists eventually kill millions
History - she no lie
Get this shit out of this thread. You are a toxic wasteland of boot licking Trumpism.
I don’t know who you are but I respect your posts because you are one of the few on these boards who aligns pretty much lockstep with me. Solid long time Republican conservative who feels Trump is a big enough threat to the good ole USA that you can’t vote for him. But don’t truly want the radical left in charge either. You’re in Indiana so your vote for pres is honorary only. I live in Georgia wih potential national implications. I fully planned to vote for neither but know that this state could come down to a few hundred votes. What would Aloha do in this situation?!
No, I'm in Ohio. I intend to write in. If it gets tight in Ohio (Trump should win easily) that would be a strong indicator that Harris is likely to win big nation-wide and in the swing states. I'd likely still vote write-in in that situation.
Aloha, wonder how many elections around the country at all levels of government share your 99% certainty.
Somehow don't think this is particularly healthy.
I might. I actually am trying to put thought into this election rather than reflex Trump sucking
California is probably 99.999 percent certain to go for Harris. Same with Hawaii. Polls still show Ohio isn't very close. I'd prefer that elections were closer in every state - assuming we have to legitimate choices for President.
Good for you. You seem to like her. It also ensures you will have the freedom to "be".
Aloha, voting for some candidates in the other party is healthy in my view as it shows you might actually believe the other guys might have some good ideas.
Too many pols and voters spend all their hot air time putting the other guys down while spending no time listening to them.
Watch Congressional hearings with panels of witnesses being lectured to by pols instead of the pols asking questions. Tells me, the pols think they have all the answers.
I'm the opposite. I want elections to be blow outs in every state. It's means a larger majority of Americans are getting the type of government (at least at the state level) they want.
Think of where Harris comes from. San Fran. Favorite city in America. What did progressive policies do to that once great city. Homeless. Drugs. Defund. Bail projects. Think of reversing 42, asylum agreements. Remain in Mexico. Think of big gov. The largest social safety net in history. Cradle to grave benefits. And what that will do to our country. Think of all the freebies and how they spiked inflation. And finally think philosophically of equity of outcomes. So that a man who went to 4 years of college, mcats, four years of med or osto school then did a residency then had the balls to open a practice with all that attends having to support others who don’t want to work as hard. Free student loans. Free home down payments. Taxes on your wealth. What YOU earned. And if that comports with Harris and walz so be it
Not totally related, but kind of, at least in Indiana. Most recent poll has Braun at 45%, McCormack at 32% and 13% undecided. Holcomb won 56/32 in 2020.
Yea but, does a blow out raise the level of arrogance exhibited by the winner ?
It might, but I want a wakeup call for the GOP. MAGA and MAGA culture can't dominate the party if it's going to be viable and effective.
The guy who lived there died and she bought it. It just happens to be on the corner where you turn off the main road into the neighborhood.
Folks driving by don't know her demographics, so it isn't a bunch of racism, Kamala. Sorry.
We know her because damn near everybody here has dogs and we run into them on dog walks. (And when knuckleheads show up, we form a pack and violate their hind parts with our canine's canines.)
I know we aren't changing minds here. Just seems like cutting off your nose to spite your face. I think it is a big gamble to think you are going to be able to wrote off the Presidency and rely on having control of a branch of government to block what they would want to do. The senate is 50/50 and they have the tie breaker and the House is razor thin as well.
You can't make the "steady moderate hand' argument with Harris. She is among the nuttiest they have.
