Woodson retiring today rumor
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Call in Dr. Bomba. He’ll get into the “bottoms” of all this.
Nope. Coaching is recruiting. Losing a Mullins 40 miles from Bloomington and the sh!t show with Mcneeley and sh!tying the bed with Ballo, makes you worse than Archie.
Going down 40 to a new coach at Louisville makes you worse than Archie.
Having Ballo at the top of the key trying to feed Reneau makes you worse than Archie.
Taking Ballo out at the end of the fire drill Purdue game makes you worse than Archie.
Not beating a winning team in forever makes you worse than Archie.
But basically Losing Mullins and complementing retirement with 8 games to go makes you the worst hire we’ve ever had.
Why would you keep an incompetent coach, who has accomplished nothing, around until the end of the year if he's not coming back?
How is god’s green earth could Woodson have felt blindsided??
What difference does it make? Coaches announcing their resignation or retirement before the season ends yet coaches to the end of the season happens all the time.
If people haven’t picked up on it by now, the dude is oblivious.
Could completely understand how Woody might feel blindsided. He’s not a able to pick up on any clues.
Yep, I'm fine with it, especially if it's true the players want him to continue as coach. This answers the questions and we know we are getting a new coach, and an interim isn't likely doing anything with this team, and if they did, then it opens the can of worms of should they be retained, and that's already bit us in the ash once.
I will admit that, although I don’t know Woodson at all, from my perspective he seems to lack self-awareness more than any individual I have ever observed. Him being “blindsided” by this would seem to confirm that.
Speaks to many of his other issues as the head coach here IMO
Yep. Blew off Matta and Fife as guys hired to help him transition to the college game, hasn't networked with some great coaching minds in Moren, Cig and Yeagley, and surrounded himself with yes men. Lots of opportunities for him to help himself that he mismanaged.
Extreme arrogance to refuse to use the resources of Matta and Fife that Dolson had the foresight to provide to keep Woodson out of the exact position he is in now.
How about if he keeps losing? That’s a good reason. He should leave now!
He didn't think his situation would be addressed until the end of the season, have to assume in his mind he thought could still turn this thing around. this decision was not supposed to go public. many people involved, who leaked it and from which side who knows guess both would have an agenda to do it. he has had some health issues; he's not the arrogant ass he's being made out to be. is he overconfident in his own abilities? I think that's obvious most leaders are. Bottom line is it's out there now, was probably mishandled from a pr standpoint. 99.9 percent of the fan base wanted him gone including myself I knew after year 1 he was a poor choice. Saturday, I hope he gets an ovation, and the fans rally around the team. next chapter begins after the ncaa tournament. don't sleep on Mick Cronin
I don't know where one would hear that, but it would be unusual to ask a player if he wants his current coach to stay and that player publicly says no.
It is kind of odd...
But if the stories are even close to true about how Woodson has treated Dolson since he was hired... And if the stories are even close to true about Dolson wanting to move on Woodson last year, but getting "overruled"...
Then whoever the "leak" was, did IU and Dolson a HUGE favor. Dolson doesn't owe Woodson a damned thing (other than the buyout money), if those things above are true. And making it public now makes his job searching for the next guy, quite a lot easier.
I know Woodson probably still thinks he's a big fish in a small bowl, being in college...but high level college basketball is for big boys. So be better Coach...and if you can't be better, as it sure appears...be ready to be called out for it. He probably learned these lessons 45 years or so ago...I guess maybe he forgot them?
Now... having typed all that. I agree...I hope our fans rise up and support this team and program the rest of the year. Still some chances at some fun wins.
At this point I think you could go with the GA's and the Managers plus maybe Leal as the final authority in a short time out situation...
You literally couldn't do any worse than what we've seen from any of our highly paid staff...
I guess if you Have to have a figurehead you can make Leal the post game team spokesman... (he can do a little off the cuff advertising for his real estate gig as asides too)....
We play like an AAU outfit may as well have an AAU quality staff...
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right, it was mishandled but as they say the deed is done.
Woodson is probably better off its out there, if things go south Saturday and the public wasn't aware he was done, it could have been an ugly scene. I sat amongst 500 people chanting fire Archie at the BTT , wasn't a proud moment for IU athletics.
Hés not a good college coach, was a stupid decision to hire him in the 1st place, but what he is, is one of the best players to ever wear an IU uniform. I stated on here a few weeks ago this would be the best outcome. Just hope the fans let it end with dignity
The year 1 Matta/Fife/CMW debacle was a clear sign that this was never going to work. Many of us thought the 'arrangement' (ie coaching training wheels) felt weird. Very unorthodox. I'll table the Fife departure discussion but the way Matta sat there for a season, basically looking at his watch, and then departed at season's end without a hardly a word, and hasn't really discussed that period of time since... more red flags. This thing was doomed from the start. TJD kept it afloat for 2 yrs. Since his departure it's been a slow death spiral.
I'm not sure. I thought it was in one of the stories I'd read, either on here, ESPN, etc... I'll try and find it.
Ware bought him this year. 5 years from now we might appreciate what a true talent he is. last year would have been historically bad if we didn't get him from the portal.
19-14
not even an nit invite
i'd argue it was historically bad even with ware
remove him from that team, probably would have had 22 losses, non-probation years that's awful
I want to believe it’s an actual leak. If it’s a “leak”, it’s true. You can’t leak a lie. A lie is just a lie. A rumor is just a rumor. By definition of the words, if it’s really a “leak”, it isn’t made up.
True...Ware probably gave us an extra 5 wins we otherwise would not have had. Without him we may have struggled to finish .500 overall for the season.
circa 2000....2008.....players holding the program hostage.....give us the coach we want, or we walk, or at least lay down on the court?
Really wish this NIL crap had some kind of performance-based metrics attached to it. Kids, you'll get your check at the end of the season, after you achieve certain performance thresholds. If you want to walk now, there's the door....but there is no check waiting for you on your way out.
Inmates running the asylum....again.
totally different situation, Woodson is gone after the season. the players want him to finish the season, I see no problem with that. and interim could just lead to more drama. don't know what the results will be, but I bet you will see good effort Saturday.
true, the other 2 situations (2000/2008) were immediate crisis events. Jumping out of plane without a chute.
The rest of this season is now officially lame duck.
Again, with NIL (not revenue share) it's between the players and sponsors. That's the whole reason it became a thing, the courts said the schools could not prevent the players from profiting from their own name, image, likeness. In reality the schools are of course hand-in-hand with the sponsors/boosters on who gets the money and how much, but it's not "pay for play" at least legally.
Tucker will be interesting to watch, does woody play him? what can of effort if he does?
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