Wichita!!!!!

[iubud]

TJD will play Morgan's position. Still need a shooter and Hunter healthy.

We need shooters. Hunter was discussed as possibly playing the 2 at some point. He could play the 3 to start and the 2 eventually if we want to go bigger.

Green is probably going to take shots he shouldn't and passes that he shouldn't. But,he attacks the defense and isn't scared.

In the 2 games without Romeo, Green is averaging 15 pts, 4.5 assists, 3 turnovers, and 8 rebounds.

The last 3 games, Romeo is averaging 13 points, 3.3 assists, 1.3 turnovers, and 6 rebounds.

I'll be looking forward to what Green does against WSU. Another strong effort will build a stronger case for Green being able to play the 2 next year. He currently is the leader in assists per game and 3 point percentage (42%). He He has 2+ years of bonehead plays to overcome, but without a better option he will be the starting 2 guard next year. It is going to be difficult to find someone that will be more productive at this point.

 

[ndhuntington]

Dumb

Dumb? Your the birdie that told me..

 

[glidresquirrel]

Indianaftw wanted to see next year's team play this year. Hunter can't play now and there probably isn't 100% assurance he will play next year.

I expect that Morgan will be missed the most, but we have others that will collectively pick up his production. Most teams will lose at least one quality player per year.

Morgan will be much harder to replace on the college level than Langford at the moment. He had really good hands and uncanny ability to get awkward shots in close to roll in somehow.

 

[ndhuntington]

Hunter is a 3 I have been told he is a Christian Watford type..

 

[rocketo]

1. Last time these two coaches matched up WSU had NBA talent....Dayton didn't.

2. I like they way IU matches up against them. They don't have a ton of size and this season, turn the ball over a lot.

3. Why is everyone piing on our coach/team who has had less than 2 years and one recruiting class? Upperclassmen in the backcourt win championships. Freshmen in the backcourt tend to be inconsistent (ignoring the rest of the roster issues that weren't created by the current staff).

#3 - Because we have a bunch of whiney little beyotches on this board who root for IU to lose and pretend to be IU fans.

 

[rocketo]

Morgan will be much harder to replace on the college level than Langford at the moment. He had really good hands and uncanny ability to get awkward shots in close to roll in somehow.

If DD gets healthy and stays healthy, and TJD is as good as we hope, then we won’t miss JM so much. Especially by the halfway point. That’s not to say JM hasn’t been fantastic this year, because he has been. But we could still be a better team without him. We shall see.

 

[kahunatuna]

I think Marshall wanted the Texas job. He may get his chance 4 years later. Of course if an alum and former asst. named Beard wants it, Marshall again won't get called.

You think wrong.

 

[rocketo]

We need shooters. Hunter was discussed as possibly playing the 2 at some point. He could play the 3 to start and the 2 eventually if we want to go bigger.

Green is probably going to take shots he shouldn't and passes that he shouldn't. But,he attacks the defense and isn't scared.

In the 2 games without Romeo, Green is averaging 15 pts, 4.5 assists, 3 turnovers, and 8 rebounds.

The last 3 games, Romeo is averaging 13 points, 3.3 assists, 1.3 turnovers, and 6 rebounds.

I'll be looking forward to what Green does against WSU. Another strong effort will build a stronger case for Green being able to play the 2 next year. He currently is the leader in assists per game and 3 point percentage (42%). He He has 2+ years of bonehead plays to overcome, but without a better option he will be the starting 2 guard next year. It is going to be difficult to find someone that will be more productive at this point.

Pretty much everybody loves good DG. But bad DG is terrible. He has been much more good DG the last few weeks, and that has made a tremendous difference along with RP playing well, and DD giving good minutes. DG will be one of our best players next year if he continues to improve and keeps bad DG locked up in the closet.

 

[glidresquirrel]

If DD gets healthy and stays healthy, and TJD is as good as we hope, then we won’t miss JM so much. Especially by the halfway point. That’s not to say JM hasn’t been fantastic this year, because he has been. But we could still be a better team without him. We shall see.

Yes , but id still rather have another yr of Morgan vs another yr of Langford if the choice were there to make. Would be interesting to see Morgan playing with DD and TJD

 

[Big Red Crimson Buffalo]

You almost sound giddy at the thought of him not playing again.

I wonder why that is...?

Oh geez.....no.
No, not at all. I’m just trying to keep you “fanboy clowns” a bit more grounded this next year so you don’t come unglued when kids don’t perform to your big predictions.

 

[SouthBendJim]

Is the game at 7pm i hope but I saw where it said 8:30

According to my Comcast guide, 9PM EST.

 

[ufo33]

Kinda like a guy with a diet coke and constantly hiking his ill fitting pants up pacing the sidelines?

They look kind of alike from the side profile.

 

[trailrunner]

Is the game at 7pm i hope but I saw where it said 8:30

According to my Comcast guide, 9PM EST.

Now my guide says 1700 Mountain time

 

[minneman]

Now my guide says 1700 Mountain time

That is correct, 5 PM MDT. 7 PM EDT.

 

[glidresquirrel]

My Direct TV on screen guide showed ESPN 9 pm eastern time yesterday but now I see it says 7PM . I guess better to check at 7 and not on than missed it checking at 9

 

[TR32]

TJD will play Morgan's position.

Sounds so easy, doesn't it? I don't think will be though.

 

[iubud]

Pretty much everybody loves good DG. But bad DG is terrible. He has been much more good DG the last few weeks, and that has made a tremendous difference along with RP playing well, and DD giving good minutes. DG will be one of our best players next year if he continues to improve and keeps bad DG locked up in the closet.

VJIII was a turnover machine most of his career, but became a steady player in his senior year. DG reminds me of a more aggressive version of VJIII.

Bad DG will always be a possibility. He is clearly our best and most willing shooter. We will need him next year and I think he is feeling that now. He seems to be taking on the responsibility of a leader. That may be what he needed.

A friend of mine that used to get in trouble a lot joined the Army and was quickly put in charge of the other recruits. I asked him, no offense. but why was someone like him put in charge? He said it taught him restraint and how one bad act can affect the entire group. He became a Ranger and received many honors including saving several lives in a training crash of a C-130

 

[Bulk VanderHuge]

Sure they are but no other fan base (other than our own) makes these guarantees and “pronouncements” of what’s going to happen with specific players. That kid may not play again. Hope he does but don’t bank on it.

Totally wrong.

However, I can't imagine a fanbase message board with more posters who insist on predicting doom and gloom for both the immediate and distant future, and who downplay all success, while at the same time celebrating the setbacks. If you removed all the "fans" (quotations = sarcasm), this message board would be much more enjoyable, and normal. JMHO.

 

[pvtlamb]

1. Last time these two coaches matched up WSU had NBA talent....Dayton didn't.

2. I like they way IU matches up against them. They don't have a ton of size and this season, turn the ball over a lot.

3. Why is everyone piing on our coach/team who has had less than 2 years and one recruiting class? Upperclassmen in the backcourt win championships. Freshmen in the backcourt tend to be inconsistent (ignoring the rest of the roster issues that weren't created by the current staff).

WSU doesn't have much size? We start a 6'11" center with a 7-footer and a 6'9'" 265 lbs guys off the bench. That is more than IU I believe.

 

[spartanhusker]

Marshall is a mid-major coach. He coaches at Wichita, a mid-major. If he wants to win a title, and put on his big boy pants and become a Power Five coach along with the extra pressure and criticism when his wizard ways don't produce the same winning results when he does not have more talent that the other teams in his little conference. Marshall had his chance to come to IU but chose to stay behind as a mid-major. Archie took the risk and the chance at IU and his career will be rewarded while Marshall will be remembered for dominating small school conference but never winning the big one. Marshall had his one big class and lost. That was his shot. Stomp Wichita.

You are an idiot....you obviously have not been paying attention.....Wins over:
Your boy Archie
His brother Sean
Mark Few, when they were a number 1 seed
Bill Self
Mick Cronin
Kelvin Sampson
Scott Drew

Should I go on?

You will probably win, but don't make yourself look stupid in the process....

 

[hondo314]

Oh geez.....no.
No, not at all. I’m just trying to keep you “fanboy clowns” a bit more grounded this next year so you don’t come unglued when kids don’t perform to your big predictions.

fanboy clowns? lol. for you, that is anyone who may or may not have reservations but who thinks we should give Arch another year or so. pretty typical base human behavior -- everyone not with you is against you. you should work on that!

and only a handful posters truly come unglued for any length of time because of the under performance this year and you were one of them.

hopes were high. reality set in. the board adjusted. but some -- not naming names -- went psycho and started posting their dark thoughts a few times every minute. good times!

But we get it! You had profound yet super secret unshared reservations coming into this year that you were only willing to talk about after the losing streak began. pretty nifty! can't wait to see the quick script rewrite if Archie gets this thing going again...

 

[pvtlamb]

If a program can make a Final Four they can win a national championship. Marshall is a competitive guy and I think he wants to show he can get back there from WSU.

 

[turney333]

VJIII was a turnover machine most of his career, but became a steady player in his senior year. DG reminds me of a more aggressive version of VJIII.

Bad DG will always be a possibility. He is clearly our best and most willing shooter. We will need him next year and I think he is feeling that now. He seems to be taking on the responsibility of a leader. That may be what he needed.

A friend of mine that used to get in trouble a lot joined the Army and was quickly put in charge of the other recruits. I asked him, no offense. but why was someone like him put in charge? He said it taught him restraint and how one bad act can affect the entire group. He became a Ranger and received many honors including saving several lives in a training crash of a C-130

DG is infinitely better when he isn't the primary ball handler. Maybe one of Phinesee's biggest contributions to the team has been taking away those ball handling responsibilities

 

[hondo314]

You are an idiot....you obviously have not been paying attention.....Wins over:
Your boy Archie
His brother Sean
Mark Few, when they were a number 1 seed
Bill Self
Mick Cronin
Kelvin Sampson
Scott Drew

Should I go on?

You will probably win, but don't make yourself look stupid in the process....

call us when he wins in a town called Normal against something called an Illinois State...lol

but seriously, you should be above defending your coach. all but a handful of schools would kill for your last 5 years.

 

[pvtlamb]

wut

 

[spartanhusker]

Even a blind hog like Muller finds an acorn... kind of like Miles this year

 

[hondo314]

Even a blind hog like Muller finds an acorn... kind of like Miles this year

cool story

 

[spartanhusker]

cool story

Thanks

 

[mushroomgod_1]

We need shooters. Hunter was discussed as possibly playing the 2 at some point. He could play the 3 to start and the 2 eventually if we want to go bigger.

Green is probably going to take shots he shouldn't and passes that he shouldn't. But,he attacks the defense and isn't scared.

In the 2 games without Romeo, Green is averaging 15 pts, 4.5 assists, 3 turnovers, and 8 rebounds.

The last 3 games, Romeo is averaging 13 points, 3.3 assists, 1.3 turnovers, and 6 rebounds.

I'll be looking forward to what Green does against WSU. Another strong effort will build a stronger case for Green being able to play the 2 next year. He currently is the leader in assists per game and 3 point percentage (42%). He He has 2+ years of bonehead plays to overcome, but without a better option he will be the starting 2 guard next year. It is going to be difficult to find someone that will be more productive at this point.

You know, what's really blowing me away right now about Green is the rebounding. That's so valuable from the guard position. Durham's weak rebounding skills are one reason I'm not as high on him as some others on this board.......

What's scary about Green is relying on him going forward. What happens if Archie is all in on him and then he does something to get himself kicked off half way through next season? Not a low risk scenerio.

And do you just make a 'Green exception' to the general proposition that you don't want players making 3-4 bonehead plays per game?.......because as well as he's played lately, he's till making those plays.

You know, right now I see Green as a very, very, very poor man's Carson Edwards. Both can shoot. Both have issues with shot selection. Both are hyper-confident. Green can't drive as effectively as Edwards and tries to force more passes than CE. CE's never been suspended, so maybe even saying that is unfair to CE, but there are similarities.

 

[TR32]

Hopefully Hunter and Franklin and Anderson will be helping the 2 and/or 3.

Green is indeed a flawed player, but he may be the type that plays better when he has praise, and for once he is getting some of that.

 

[TR32]

1. Last time these two coaches matched up WSU had NBA talent....Dayton didn't.

2. I like they way IU matches up against them. They don't have a ton of size and this season, turn the ball over a lot.

3. Why is everyone piing on our coach/team who has had less than 2 years and one recruiting class? Upperclassmen in the backcourt win championships. Freshmen in the backcourt tend to be inconsistent (ignoring the rest of the roster issues that weren't created by the current staff).

They went on a tear in the last half of the season and like IU were about a game away, maybe two, from getting in the tourney, and Marshall is easily top 5 coach in the nation.

It had nothing to do with piling on IU. I had been watching them the last few weeks of the season and knew they were better than there record.

 

[TR32]

A whale of a game from IU? This is Wichita State, not Duke. While they have had some really good teams and made some nice runs in the NCAAT, this year is not one of those. This year they are 21-14, a #6 seed in the NIT, and playing on the road in Assembly Hall. I don't think it'll be an easy game but I think IU gets the win with even just a good game. Kenpom has them at 74 with IU at 45. "It will take a whale of a game from IU." LMAO

Hope you are done laughing now.

 

[rocketo]

Yes , but id still rather have another yr of Morgan vs another yr of Langford if the choice were there to make. Would be interesting to see Morgan playing with DD and TJD

Agree. Langford, as good as he was had some serious limitations. Very surprised he is as highly thought of in the draft as he is. His shot and lack of a left hand are serious flaws in his game. He has gotten better, but lots of work there still.

 

[minneman]

Hope you are done laughing now.

I was laughing at the idea that IU had to play a great game to win. They didn't have to, even a good game would've gotten it done. Did IU have what would be considered a "good game?" They shot under 40% overall, 33% from three, under 55% from the line while getting out rebounded and blocked 9 times. Looks like a piss poor performance to me. This was a very winnable game. Even playing poorly it was a close game until the end.

In case you missed this part of what I said: "I don't think it'll be an easy game but I think IU gets the win with even just a good game."

But I know you, fpeaugh, and a few others will be on here gloating about how bad the team is even though you pretend to be fans. Congratulations on the loss.

 

[oldcougar77]

They went on a tear in the last half of the season and like IU were about a game away, maybe two, from getting in the tourney, and Marshall is easily top 5 coach in the nation.

It had nothing to do with piling on IU. I had been watching them the last few weeks of the season and knew they were better than there record.

They are a well-coached team. So are we. The difference is pretty simple - they can space the floor on you and make threes consistently when they reverse the ball or go inside out. We can't.

We gave up 73 points in a game where we had to chase and foul the last two minutes. That defensive effort will win most games. We just missed open looks when we had them. We made runs and had opportunities to take the lead multiple times in the second half but couldn't make shots.

We'll win when and if our shooting gets better. I'm pretty sure Archie understands this, as does anyone and everyone who really understands basketball. There is nothing wrong with this program that a couple of good shooters can't fix.

The dumbest thing this university could do right now is fire this coach. Fortunately, I think the decision makers are smarter than the screeching irrational schoogirls on this forum who know less about coaching basketball than they know about nuclear physics.

 

[Big Red Crimson Buffalo]

Totally wrong.

However, I can't imagine a fanbase message board with more posters who insist on predicting doom and gloom for both the immediate and distant future, and who downplay all success, while at the same time celebrating the setbacks. If you removed all the "fans" (quotations = sarcasm), this message board would be much more enjoyable, and normal. JMHO.

Ehh...I guess one fan’s enjoyment (trying hard, looking discombobulated and poorly coached) is another fans angst.

My argument is that you people have no concept whatsoever how this all works at high level universities who demand excellence (insist on it) compared to an IU, who only gives lip service to being competitive.

You really have no concept how major universities work.

Basically, IU is the Barney Fife of fan bases. Small time amateur hour, with an AD who is worse than that.

 

[oldcougar77]

Ehh...I guess one fan’s enjoyment (trying hard, looking discombobulated and poorly coached) is another fans angst.

My argument is that you people have no concept whatsoever how this all works at high level universities who demand excellence (insist on it) compared to an IU, who only gives lip service to being competitive.

You really have no concept how major universities work.

Basically, IU is the Barney Fife of fan bases. Small time amateur hour, with an AD who is worse than that.

Do you want to be part of a fan base that fits that description ? Damn, If I felt so strongly that I was surrounded by a bunch of losers and agonizing over a program so mired in mediocrity and ineptitude I would get the hell away in a hurry. I would get far away from such a program and for damn sure not waste my time and energy posting about such a shitshow.

Run, Peter. Run away as fast as you can !

 

[TR32]

We'll win when and if our shooting gets better. I'm pretty sure Archie understands this, as does anyone and everyone who really understands basketball. There is nothing wrong with this program that a couple of good shooters can't fix.

The dumbest thing this university could do right now is fire this coach. Fortunately, I think the decision makers are smarter than the screeching irrational schoogirls on this forum who know less about coaching basketball than they know about nuclear physics.

I don't think IU should fire the coach, nor will they.

But the offense lacks shooter, experience, and movement away from the ball. Miller did not coach this team well. That is being fair. He has to do a better job next year, and they have a lot of work to find ways to generate offense with what they have, because they will miss Morgan tremendously.

 

[coachv jr]

Even a blind hog like Muller finds an acorn... kind of like Miles this year

who's muller?