Why Old Carville Thinks the Dems Lost

[mcmurtry66]

I think our family income 20-30 years ago when we were raising the kids would be very close to $100,000 today. It took work. We took up going to the women's basketball games because it was free. We became great at finding free entertainment.

Every time you thought you were getting ahead, the car would break down, or refrigerator, or someone needed braces. The rainy day fund was always a light mist fund.

I am convinced that the greatest thing we could do for people is to make childcare more affordable. Though in one way it may not have an impact. If a family could get a child into a "C" daycare for $1000/month, I suspect they just upgraded to a "B" daycare Fir the same $1000.

But at that figure, I had friends making much less who also somehow made it. The median is about $75000 or so today, so a whole lot are pulling it off.

my minion. one kid is $1,900 a month for preschool/daycare whatever. so when they want a word over incident reports. try me

 

[BradStevens]

You should listen. He’s an angry old Dem. Blames “Defund Police” and “hate men” too. The View question was represented as a “border policy” moment.

Note how Stewart citing 4 cherry-picked Dem commercials on the border is cited as “proof” that Dems did not run on “woke” issues.

Dems didn’t, in fact, run in woke issues. Neither did Biden in 2020.

People like @mcmurty66 saw right through it this time.

 

[mcmurtry66]

Dems didn’t, in fact, run in woke issues. Neither did Biden in 2020.

People like @mcmurty66 saw right through it this time.

X-ray vision

 

[JamieDimonsBalls]

True. Of course daycare years don't last forever.


That already happens no... With combo of the exemptions plus child tax credit?

Sadly, I've been in it for nearly 10 years at this point.

So it's what - $7K per year per kid in dependent exemptions plus tax credit?

 

[hoosboot]

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Parent loans are out there, we are finishing up the youngest's loans. There was a good tax break on them back when we were paying for 3.

I know they are out there. I'm saying make them the only thing that is out there so that an 18-year old doesn't get saddled with $100K before they really learn what money means.

 

[UncleMark]

$100K ain't shit these days bailey.

You guys are killing me. Try less than half of that.

 

[VanPastorMan]

$100k in Indiana, you’re rich. $100k in NYC, you are not rich.

That is what happens when Democrats run the show for a long period of time unless the people just up and leave like those in California.

 

[hoot1]

You guys are killing me. Try less than half of that.

Think about a husband and wife each making $15 an hour (twice the mininum wage in Indiana). This adds up to a yearly family income of $60,000 before taxes and deductions for health care insurance, Social Security and Medicare. Then subtract about $18,000 per year for child care for two children under school age.

Finally there is rent or a mortgage payment, transportation (two cars), food, and clothing.

At this point doubt there is any money available for saving and investing, miscellaneous expenses, or unexpected events, and entertainment including a vacation.

Sorry Pastor Van, forgot about tithing.

 

[mcmurtry66]

Think about a husband and wife each making $15 an hour (twice the mininum wage in Indiana). This adds up to a yearly family income of $60,000 before taxes and deductions for health care insurance, Social Security and Medicare. Then subtract about $18,000 per year for child care for two children under school age.

Finally there is rent or a mortgage payment, transportation (two cars), food, and clothing.

At this point doubt there is any money available for saving and investing, miscellaneous expenses, or unexpected events, and entertainment including a vacation.

Sorry Pastor Van, forgot about tithing.

My buddy owned a factory in the middle of nowhere in rural Missouri. Employed probably a 100 people. Light manufacturing. Paid $10 an hour. Mostly uneducated women. Husbands would drive a truck or do whatever. Was an affordable simple life in the country. $150k homes

The $15 an hypo doesn’t fly in a city. Those people need to be in training or in night school or saving for implants to get a new guy or something. The shit you see in calif on min wage misses the boat. McDonald’s. Six flags. Those aren’t careers. They’re for teens or old people or temp while doing what I wrote.