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Why can't Archie bring in a lights out transfer shooter?

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PU brings in a transfer who is over 40% from 3pt line. Painter gets shooters and 7 footers.
 
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PU brings in a transfer who is over 40% from 3pt line. Painter gets shooters and 7 footers.

I've said on here before that I think it was a mistake not to use one of open schollies on a guard that could shoot. IUbud says not to worry that Damezi is a big guard that fills that roll that Archie likes. Guess he forgot about him today. Not a big deal, but I don't understand not bringing someone in as an insurance policy. Maybe he was frustrated over Fitzner's lack of shooting/production last year and thought it wasn't worth it.
 
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I've said on here before that I think it was a mistake not to use one of open schollies on a guard that could shoot. IUbud says not to worry that Damezi is a big guard that fills that roll that Archie likes. Guess he forgot about him today. Not a big deal, but I don't understand not bringing someone in as an insurance policy. Maybe he was frustrated over Fitzner's lack of shooting/production last year and thought it wasn't worth it.
I doubt Anderson will see major minutes this year. Our other guards are simply better
 
I doubt Anderson will see major minutes this year. Our other guards are simply better
Pretty good bet considering he already has a DNP after 2 games. I haven't heard that he's injured so probably a coach's decision. He also only scored 2 points in 19 minutes against the worst team they'll play all season.
 
I've said on here before that I think it was a mistake not to use one of open schollies on a guard that could shoot. IUbud says not to worry that Damezi is a big guard that fills that roll that Archie likes. Guess he forgot about him today. Not a big deal, but I don't understand not bringing someone in as an insurance policy. Maybe he was frustrated over Fitzner's lack of shooting/production last year and thought it wasn't worth it.
Since you used my name, I'll jump in. Archie believes Damezi and Franklin will be contributors at some point in their careers. Bringing another guard in to be the 4th guard means little or no playing time for one or two people. Why screw 2 young players for a one year player? There are only a few really good players at other programs that transfer.. Even good players don't always work out.

Ryan Taylor led the MVC in scoring at UE and did very little to help Northwestern last year. I saw him play many times. He was as much of a sure thing as I had seen in the grad transfers.

I would rather give Franklin or Anderson an opportunity to get experience behind our top 3 guards.

Archie agrees. I trust his experience over people that have never built a team.
 
Pretty good bet considering he already has a DNP after 2 games. I haven't heard that he's injured so probably a coach's decision. He also only scored 2 points in 19 minutes against the worst team they'll play all season.
Fish said that DA had a slight leg injury from practice this week.
Not anything real serious. Need to stop bashing players after just 2 games.
 
PU brings in a transfer who is over 40% from 3pt line. Painter gets shooters and 7 footers.
I'm confident that he will bring in what he feels is necessary. After all, he is the coach, not one of us on a chat board.
 
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Since you used my name, I'll jump in. Archie believes Damezi and Franklin will be contributors at some point in their careers. Bringing another guard in to be the 4th guard means little or no playing time for one or two people. Why screw 2 young players for a one year player? There are only a few really good players at other programs that transfer.. Even good players don't always work out.

Ryan Taylor led the MVC in scoring at UE and did very little to help Northwestern last year. I saw him play many times. He was as much of a sure thing as I had seen in the grad transfers.

I would rather give Franklin or Anderson an opportunity to get experience behind our top 3 guards.

Archie agrees. I trust his experience over people that have never built a team.

I'm just tweaking you. Maybe it won't hurt us. It didn't hurt Crean not having a suitable backup for Yogi after Remi Abell left because Yogi was so durable. Hopefully we'll luck out too, but we should have another guard on our roster this year and Damezi isn't it no matter how much everyone hopes he is. If he was going to get experience, don't you think he'd be getting it now with Green out and playing preconference opponents?
 
I'm just tweaking you. Maybe it won't hurt us. It didn't hurt Crean not having a suitable backup for Yogi after Remi Abell left because Yogi was so durable. Hopefully we'll luck out too, but we should have another guard on our roster this year and Damezi isn't it no matter how much everyone hopes he is. If he was going to get experience, don't you think he'd be getting it now with Green out and playing preconference opponents?
Damezi was out today because of injury.

We have four players capable of being primary ball handlers. That's more than enough. We have four (five?) players capable of being post defenders. Again enough.

I guess you don't follow Brad Stevens or other coaches much .. there's only 3 positions. Post Defender, Lead Guard and everyone else. We have more than enough of everyone else, and players capable of defending multiple positions. Are you getting me? The roles are filled.

It was important that we had a backup to Yogi because he was our only real primary ball handler. I agreed with you then, but this is different.

btw - Stevens is correct. Those two roles are a must, and teams should have 3 of each minimum. Crean generally didn't ..The rest are interchangeable pieces that have no real definitive unreplaceable ability as they can be filled with a multitude of different types, shapes and styles of players, but you need a lead guard to run an offense, and you need a post defender to solidify the defense and defend the lane. . We have plenty of both .. which is why it's not much of a concern.

Shooters? Yea, we need those.. but if Rob, Brooklyn, Anderson, Hunter, Durham, Race, Franklin get confidence and shoot a few points higher in percentage than last year, we have enough of them too..
 
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It sucks that INDIANA FREAKIN UNIVERSITY, can hardly shoot the basketball. It’s like the University of Texas not having any lineman that are 300 Lbs.
 
It sucks that INDIANA FREAKIN UNIVERSITY, can hardly shoot the basketball. It’s like the University of Texas not having any lineman that are 300 Lbs.
Loud noises ... if you stomp your feet it will have more effect.
 
T.M.P I'm waiting for which shooters Archie has added. Fitzner? Even Crean would recruit shooters Johnson, Roth, Hulls, Yogi, Watford, just to name a few.
 
I'm just tweaking you. Maybe it won't hurt us. It didn't hurt Crean not having a suitable backup for Yogi after Remi Abell left because Yogi was so durable. Hopefully we'll luck out too, but we should have another guard on our roster this year and Damezi isn't it no matter how much everyone hopes he is. If he was going to get experience, don't you think he'd be getting it now with Green out and playing preconference opponents?
Damezi had a slight injury and was held out as a precaution.He could have played if needed per Fischer's interview with Archie before the game.
 
Damezi was out today because of injury.

We have four players capable of being primary ball handlers. That's more than enough. We have four (five?) players capable of being post defenders. Again enough.

I guess you don't follow Brad Stevens or other coaches much .. there's only 3 positions. Post Defender, Lead Guard and everyone else. We have more than enough of everyone else, and players capable of defending multiple positions. Are you getting me? The roles are filled.

It was important that we had a backup to Yogi because he was our only real primary ball handler. I agreed with you then, but this is different.

btw - Stevens is correct. Those two roles are a must, and teams should have 3 of each minimum. Crean generally didn't ..The rest are interchangeable pieces that have no real definitive unreplaceable ability as they can be filled with a multitude of different types, shapes and styles of players, but you need a lead guard to run an offense, and you need a post defender to solidify the defense and defend the lane. . We have plenty of both .. which is why it's not much of a concern.

Shooters? Yea, we need those.. but if Rob, Brooklyn, Anderson, Hunter, Durham, Race, Franklin get confidence and shoot a few points higher in percentage than last year, we have enough of them too..

I agree on the frontcourt, for the first time in years; we finally have adequate depth. I'm not sure why you are trying so hard to argue the backcourt. You say we have 4, but we don't now do we? Green hasn't played yet, and Phinisee missed most of October. And one of those 4 is a freshman who is surprising folks, but back in April/May when you'd need to pull the trigger on finding a grad transfer, you have to assume that you can't really depend on a freshman ranked outside the top 100 too much. Yes, we may be OK, but no, it's not ideal and another guard would be great for depth and also helpful in practice I'm sure.
 
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I'm just tweaking you. Maybe it won't hurt us. It didn't hurt Crean not having a suitable backup for Yogi after Remi Abell left because Yogi was so durable. Hopefully we'll luck out too, but we should have another guard on our roster this year and Damezi isn't it no matter how much everyone hopes he is. If he was going to get experience, don't you think he'd be getting it now with Green out and playing preconference opponents?

Archie tried to get more players and came up short. It is what it is.
 
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Who says he needs more players? But we get the season is two games old so it’s again freak out time for the weak-minded...again.

Archie. He was was guy who offered them and continued to recruit them. They just went to other schools.
 
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Damezi was out today because of injury.

We have four players capable of being primary ball handlers. That's more than enough. We have four (five?) players capable of being post defenders. Again enough.

I guess you don't follow Brad Stevens or other coaches much .. there's only 3 positions. Post Defender, Lead Guard and everyone else. We have more than enough of everyone else, and players capable of defending multiple positions. Are you getting me? The roles are filled.

It was important that we had a backup to Yogi because he was our only real primary ball handler. I agreed with you then, but this is different.

btw - Stevens is correct. Those two roles are a must, and teams should have 3 of each minimum. Crean generally didn't ..The rest are interchangeable pieces that have no real definitive unreplaceable ability as they can be filled with a multitude of different types, shapes and styles of players, but you need a lead guard to run an offense, and you need a post defender to solidify the defense and defend the lane. . We have plenty of both .. which is why it's not much of a concern.

Shooters? Yea, we need those.. but if Rob, Brooklyn, Anderson, Hunter, Durham, Race, Franklin get confidence and shoot a few points higher in percentage than last year, we have enough of them too..

You really have caught the fanboy fever.
 
I agree on the frontcourt, for the first time in years; we finally have adequate depth. I'm not sure why you are trying so hard to argue the backcourt. You say we have 4, but we don't now do we? Green hasn't played yet, and Phinisee missed most of October. And one of those 4 is a freshman who is surprising folks, but back in April/May when you'd need to pull the trigger on finding a grad transfer, you have to assume that you can't really depend on a freshman ranked outside the top 100 too much. Yes, we may be OK, but no, it's not ideal and another guard would be great for depth and also helpful in practice I'm sure.
I explained it above ... what more do I need to say?

You want a "backcourt", when all you need as far as role, is a lead guard. We have 4 who can handle that role. You can stick anyone you want next to them to form a "backcourt" as long as they can guard one of the opposing backcourt players. So now you can add DA to the four and we have 5 players for 80 minutes. That's more than enough as you only need three.

Most teams only play 8 players, how many guards do you think are among the 8? It isn't 6 ....
 
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Archie. He was was guy who offered them and continued to recruit them. They just went to other schools.

Going after them doesn’t mean he needs them to have a good season. We’ll know soon enough but love the premature whining. Lol.
 
You really have caught the fanboy fever.

Because he’s not willing to admit Archie has failed at this aspect of his job before he’s actually failed at this aspect of his job?

I see all the reptilian brains on the board are thinking great thoughts tonight. Lol.
 
Since you used my name, I'll jump in. Archie believes Damezi and Franklin will be contributors at some point in their careers. Bringing another guard in to be the 4th guard means little or no playing time for one or two people. Why screw 2 young players for a one year player? There are only a few really good players at other programs that transfer.. Even good players don't always work out.

Ryan Taylor led the MVC in scoring at UE and did very little to help Northwestern last year. I saw him play many times. He was as much of a sure thing as I had seen in the grad transfers.

I would rather give Franklin or Anderson an opportunity to get experience behind our top 3 guards.

Archie agrees. I trust his experience over people that have never built a team.
Possible answer to your first question. More wins. So we're not going to bring in another guard because they may be better than the guards we already have on the team? Ok makes since. We'll just hope Anderson is descent at some point.
 
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