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White House Budget Office Orders Pause in all Federal Loans and Grants, effective today (NYT)

The memo from the acting director of the White House Office of Management and Budget on January 27 ) very specifically instructed each federal agency, to the extent permissible under applicable law, to temporarily pause all activities related to obligations or disbursement of all federal financial assistance, and all other relevant agency activities implicated by the executive orders.

It seems pretty clear that they now have some egg on their multiple faces and, like CO.H., would never EVER admit to being wrong about anything or ever admit making any mistake.
And for what it's worth, people all over the country have legitimate reasons to be concerned about this, even it is only a 'temporary' pause of funding from tonight at 5pm to February 10.

In my corner of the world, 43,000 people across 22 counties in rural Appalachia will be impacted to varying degrees. That includes kids from low income families, pregnant women, elderly folks, people in recovery...the list goes on and on. And even with federal funding, some of the programs are considered underfunded. And that's just a sliver of what's going on in my state. People in every state are having these types of discussions. It's not time to panic yet, but the cause for concern is very, very real.

It's unclear how these federal grant funds will be vetted, but nearly all of them have class requirements in the federal application that include language that 1) was around before DEI was a thing and 2) could very much fall under the loose definition of DEI and 'woke' ideology. Throwing the baby out with the bathwater doesn't even begin to cover the potential outcome here.
 
How so?

Show your work.
I'm not going to do the math, but security detail, travel, housing and feeding everyone in the president's traveling group over the course of a few days isn't cheap. Add in the police escorts, street closures and additional security measures on the local front and it's probably not hard to get to that $2 million number.
 
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You want to cut Medicare and SS benefits? So do I.

Give Hegseth a chance. Maybe he can make some major changes in procurement that could show real cost reductions. That’s the mandate he has.
Hegseth? He’s made no promises to cut defense spending. He complained that defense spending is at the lowest percentage of GDP in decades. He noted were we’re not building enough warships. He’s right. It’s more likely that we increase defense spending.
 
No you not. There are real life implications to all kinds of important programs. But then again Trump never did care about paying bills on time. But his general contractors sure were impacted. Same here but still a national level.
Any examples of him not paying bills. There are extremely important programs and there are many that can be halted. This is temporary, which some of you can't understand.
 
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I'm not going to do the math, but security detail, travel, housing and feeding everyone in the president's traveling group over the course of a few days isn't cheap. Add in the police escorts, street closures and additional security measures on the local front and it's probably not hard to get to that $2 million number.
The real shit kicker is he only stays at and golfs at his own Trump golf courses. Then bills the US government for the stay for him and all his staff at full rate. I mean, I've never said the guy was "dumb".
 
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Ha - essentially what this is saying is that they're not pausing the programs providing assistance, but they are pausing the payments to those programs.

It'd be a little like me telling my kids they can use my car for a road trip, but I'm going to keep the tires off of it for the next few weeks.
Medicaid patients received their medications today just as they have any other day. They were not denied service.
 
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Those voters also selected the majority in the house and Senate. Your side also weaponized the judicial system.
Pardon me if I’m wrong, but aren’t we talking about a reversal of what the previous congress already voted for? Is that legal in terms of the balance of power?
 
I'm not going to do the math, but security detail, travel, housing and feeding everyone in the president's traveling group over the course of a few days isn't cheap. Add in the police escorts, street closures and additional security measures on the local front and it's probably not hard to get to that $2 million number.
Traveled to North Carolina, LA and Vegas, followed by a return east, finishing in Florida. Met victims of two catastrophes and with Rubio in Florida. Settled the Colombian deal while at Doral. The phones work around there, I guess.

Is your point the president should only stay in D.C.?

Getting out and getting the job done. Quite a refreshing change.
 
Medicaid patients received their medications today just as they have any other day. They were not denied service.
Couple of things. This is so much bigger than just medicaid. And the pause was only supposed to go into effect at 5pm today, which is two minutes ago as I'm typing this.
 
Traveled to North Carolina, LA and Vegas, followed by a return east, finishing in Florida. Met victims of two catastrophes and with Rubio in Florida. Settled the Colombian deal while at Doral. The phones work around there, I guess.

Is your point the president should only stay in D.C.?

Getting out and getting the job done. Quite a refreshing change.
Not my point at all. Someone pointed out that Trump likely spent $2 million golfing and I was loosely trying to fill in the blanks on how they might've arrived at that number.
 
Those voters also selected the majority in the house and Senate. Your side also weaponized the judicial system.
A lot of those voters are going to awfully mad about some of things they rely on that are supported by government funding being temporarily unavailable and/or eventually done away with.
 
Not my point at all. Someone pointed out that Trump likely spent $2 million golfing and I was loosely trying to fill in the blanks on how they might've arrived at that number.
We’ll note the concern when we find anything similar to Joe carting Hunter around the world with him.
 
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Well note the concern when we find anything similar to Joe carting Hunter around the world with him.
OK. You do that. I don't really care either way. Like I said, I was spitballing to come up with a $2 million number. I didn't say it was right or wrong.
 
Medicaid patients received their medications today just as they have any other day. They were not denied service.
The states make all Medicaid administrative decisions such as reimbursement rates, claim processes and payments.. Federal law has mandates about what must be covered. The pause can only pertain to payments to states of the federal portion. Given the normal lag between request for payment and receipt of funds, I don’t think we can know the impact of the pause. Since federal medicaid doesn’t directly pay for or on behalf of patients, it is not covered by the direct payment exception. The refusal to reimburse providers will be a state decision.

In any event,, I fully expect the Trump administration to lose this one in court.
 
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Couple of things. This is so much bigger than just medicaid. And the pause was only supposed to go into effect at 5pm today, which is two minutes ago as I'm typing this.
Ok…I posted earlier that I thought Medicaid was one of the things that the memo did not affect. Along with Medicare, social safety net payments to individuals, Social Security, student loans and grants.

I read on here that Medicaid was not exempt. I was relaying my experience from today dealing with real people. Their services were not abruptly shut off.
 
How so?

Show your work.
Google “cost of Trump to play golf” and there’s an endless list of results. During his first term, estimates are around $130M on golfing. And most (or all) of that was at his resorts.

But does it matter? Is it wasteful spending to you?
 
The states make all Medicaid administrative decisions such as reimbursement rates, claim processes and payments.. Federal law has mandates about what must be covered. The pause can only pertain to payments to states of the federal portion. Given the normal lag between request for payment and receipt of funds, I don’t think we can know the impact of the pause. Since federal medicaid doesn’t directly pay for or on behalf of patients, it is not covered by the direct payment exception. The refusal to reimburse providers will be a state decision.

In any event,, I fully expect the Trump administration to lose this one in court.


OMB says Medicaid payments will continue without pause
 
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Google “cost of Trump to play golf” and there’s an endless list of results. During his first term, estimates are around $130M on golfing. And most (or all) of that was at his resorts.

But does it matter? Is it wasteful spending to you?
I don’t really care, Margaret.

Staff . . . . Phones . . . .laptops/ipads - all available for use by the president.

$130 million is change under the sofa to the federal government.
 
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