What the hell?

[Bulk VanderHuge]

DANC has been busy working overtime today, throwing every distraction out there to change the conversation. It's obvious he knows this was a major screwup.
So does Hegseth.
So does Trump.
Betas never want to admit their own mistakes, even when the shit is shoved in their faces.

 

[76-1]

Ya ****ed up, Pete, just admit it.

Actually the onus is on Waltz, Hegseth had a reasonable expectation that the National Security Advisor hadn't linked any bad actors to their interoffice communications... Hegseth couldn't be expected to know the initials of every staffer on Waltz's team.

That's another positive to come of this screw up... I guarantee you all those in the Cabinet (and even lower down the food chain of the Administration) are going to be triple checking as to Exactly who is logged into their communications from this point on (by all participants)...

 

[Bulk VanderHuge]

Actually the onus is on Waltz, Hegseth had a reasonable expectation that the Nation Security Advisor hadn't linked any bad actors to their interoffice communications... Hegseth couldn't be expected to know the initials of every staffer on Waltz's team.

That's another positive to come of this screw up... I guarantee you all those in the Cabinet (and even lower down the food chain of the Administration) are going to be triple checking as to who is logged into their communications from this point on (by all participants)...

Once again...

 

[The Original Happy Goat]

Actually the onus is on Waltz, Hegseth had a reasonable expectation that the Nation Security Advisor hadn't linked any bad actors to their interoffice communications... Hegseth couldn't be expected to know the initials of every staffer on Waltz's team.

That's another positive to come of this screw up... I guarantee you all those in the Cabinet (and even lower down the food chain of the Administration) are going to be triple checking as to who is logged into their communications from this point on (by all participants)...

According to that recent DOD policy bulletin, the type of information Hegseth shared ("TEAM UPDATE") shouldn't have been done over Signal (or any other third party messaging app). So that's on him.

 

[IUINSB]

Actually the onus is on Waltz, Hegseth had a reasonable expectation that the National Security Advisor hadn't linked any bad actors to their interoffice communications... Hegseth couldn't be expected to know the initials of every staffer on Waltz's team.

That's another positive to come of this screw up... I guarantee you all those in the Cabinet (and even lower down the food chain of the Administration) are going to be triple checking as to who is logged into their communications from this point on (by all participants)...

True about Waltz, but Pete is the one who went apeshi!t about the journalist.
Admit there was a screw-up and move on.

 

[hookyIU1990]

Waltz saying that Goldberg's number was in another person's contact record and he thought he was adding that person.

What a goat rope regardless.

 

[Marvin the Martian]

Actually the onus is on Waltz, Hegseth had a reasonable expectation that the National Security Advisor hadn't linked any bad actors to their interoffice communications... Hegseth couldn't be expected to know the initials of every staffer on Waltz's team.

That's another positive to come of this screw up... I guarantee you all those in the Cabinet (and even lower down the food chain of the Administration) are going to be triple checking as to Exactly who is logged into their communications from this point on (by all participants)...

Even so, is that app really appropriate for that info?

https://www.politico.com/newsletters/digital-future-daily/2025/03/25/leaked-chats-reveal-limits-of-signal-encryption-00248614

 

[mcmurtry66]

Actually the onus is on Waltz, Hegseth had a reasonable expectation that the National Security Advisor hadn't linked any bad actors to their interoffice communications... Hegseth couldn't be expected to know the initials of every staffer on Waltz's team.

That's another positive to come of this screw up... I guarantee you all those in the Cabinet (and even lower down the food chain of the Administration) are going to be triple checking as to Exactly who is logged into their communications from this point on (by all participants)...

No consequence to it. I wouldn’t at all be surprised if trump did this intentionally. As an exercise. Buttoned up now. You could probably even call it Father fathering

 

[76-1]

Even so, is that app really appropriate for that info?

https://www.politico.com/newsletters/digital-future-daily/2025/03/25/leaked-chats-reveal-limits-of-signal-encryption-00248614

Personally, I wouldn't think so but I don't know if the reporter is being truthful as to Exactly what Hegseth texted to Waltz... For instance..., If he said we're hitting a specific set of coordinates 24 hours from now by coming in from the Saudi side (where they'd never expect to see us) then That's a major problem (in my mind).... If instead..., he used the designation for the generic make up of a "type of " Strike package and the number of same that's already know to Waltz, without any pertinent details (direction of the attack, specific target coordinates, and so forth) what might sound like actionable intelligence to a laymen is actually just generic shorthand to explain to Waltz what's about to happen...

I'm not For what happened (poor comms Security) by any means, but I have my doubts as to the actual actionable intelligence that was left hanging out there...

 

[Marvin the Martian]

Personally, I wouldn't think so but I don't know if the reporter is being truthful as to Exactly what Hegseth texted to Waltz... For instance..., If he said we're hitting a specific set of coordinates 24 hours from now by coming in from the Saudi side (where they'd never expect to see us) then That's a major problem (in my mind).... If instead..., he said the designation for a generic make up of Strike package and the number of same thats already know to Waltz, without any pertinent details (direction of the attack, specific target coordinates, and so forth) what might sound like actionable intelligence to a laymen is actually just generic shorthand to explain what's about to happen...

I'm not For what happened (poor comms Security) by any means but I have my doubts as to the actual actionable intelligence that was left out there...

If it wasn't classified Gabbard can release everything.

 

[The Original Happy Goat]

If it wasn't classified Gabbard can release everything.

It might have been subsequently classified. But that's why Congress has closed meetings.

 

[Marvin the Martian]

It might have been subsequently classified. But that's why Congress has closed meetings.

The thing is, subsequently classified means they should have known not to send it

 

[76-1]

If it wasn't classified Gabbard can release everything.

It's my impression (and I could be very wrong)* that these types of communications fall under privileged Executive Branch communications and giving up the details sets a dangerous precedent by eroding that type of privilege...

*Basically, the above is just a guess to be able to rapidly reply to you...

Here's something that alludes to what I'm guessing about:

https://www.congress.gov/crs_external_products/R/PDF/R47102/R47102.1.pdf

 

[The Original Happy Goat]

The thing is, subsequently classified means they should have known not to send it

Obviously. Only the lemmings are trying to wave this away. It's actually kind of funny.

 

[Bulk VanderHuge]

Obviously. Only the lemmings are trying to wave this away. It's actually kind of funny.

The truly stupid ass kissers are saying Trump did it on purpose.

 

[mattndallas]

Waltz saying that Goldberg's number was in another person's contact record and he thought he was adding that person.

What a goat rope regardless.

What I thought.

So who's "rolodex" did he get the number from, and why was Goldberg's number camouflaged as someone else?

 

[Bulk VanderHuge]

What I thought.

So who's "rolodex" did he get the number from, and why was Goldberg's number camouflaged as someone else?

Biden? Obama? Hillary?

 

[hookyIU1990]

What I thought.

So who's "rolodex" did he get the number from, and why was Goldberg's number camouflaged as someone else?

Who isn't responsible for their own contacts in their address book?

It's crazy to watch both sides talk about this.

 

[GooglyMooglyWooglyBoogly]

What I thought.

So who's "rolodex" did he get the number from, and why was Goldberg's number camouflaged as someone else?

Probably supposed to be Jamieson Greer.

 

[CO. Hoosier]

What I thought.

So who's "rolodex" did he get the number from, and why was Goldberg's number camouflaged as someone else?

It was sabotage by a Biden staffer who inserted a couple of lines of code on the app.

 

[mattndallas]

Probably supposed to be Jamieson Greer.

Makes sense, I guess. Waltz added the wrong "JG"...maybe?

If true, why would Waltz have Goldberg "camo'd" in his contacts as "JG" in the first place?

 

[hookyIU1990]

Admiral Jim Greer? Jack Ryan must have been on the ground in Yemen

 

[hoosboot]

Biden? Obama? Hillary?

Soros, duh.

 

[mcmurtry66]

Who isn't responsible for their own contacts in their address book?

It's crazy to watch both sides talk about this.

In fairness not everyone respects notebooks like you….

 

[hoosboot]

In fairness not everyone respects notebooks like you….

I believe hooky is referring to his well-organized FiloFax.

 

[UncleMark]

Personally, I wouldn't think so but I don't know if the reporter is being truthful as to Exactly what Hegseth texted to Waltz... For instance...

Of course. The reporter is lying. That explains it.

 

[mcmurtry66]

I believe hooky is referring to his well-organized FiloFax.

ah yes. Got it

 

[76-1]

Of course. The reporter is lying. That explains it.

Or..., even more likely..., he doesn't know what he's looking at...

 

[CO. Hoosier]

Even so, is that app really appropriate for that info?

https://www.politico.com/newsletters/digital-future-daily/2025/03/25/leaked-chats-reveal-limits-of-signal-encryption-00248614

Does the government have an alternative loaded on government phones? Why was the app loaded onto government cell phones if it wasn’t to be used? I know, and I’m sure, the chat participants know, that smart phone comms cannot be private. We have the tech and I’m sure Russia and China do also to read the texts and listen.

Goldberg is the last person on earth a Republican ought to have on a contact list. I hope we find out how he was invited of all people.

 

[CO. Hoosier]

Makes sense, I guess. Waltz added the wrong "JG"...maybe?

If true, why would Waltz have Goldberg "camo'd" in his contacts as "JG" in the first place?

I thought that too until Waltz said he doesn’t know Goldberg and didn’t have his number.

 

[BradStevens]

No consequence to it. I wouldn’t at all be surprised if trump did this intentionally. As an exercise. Buttoned up now. You could probably even call it Father fathering

What D chess (no, not chest) are we up to now with Trump's behind the scenes maneuvering?

 

[76-1]

I'm just bummed Atlantic didn't get the scoop on our Invasion of Canada... 😞

I'm still waiting to see if Pete got my Fed Ex Express Letter containing my plans on how best to do it... 😎

You'll know he used my Strategic Objectives and Initial Scheme of Maneuver Outline if we kick things off by seizing Fort Henry and Fort George (which shouldn't be difficult since they're both now Museums) and rapidly advance to Phase Line Crimson (just beyond the Welland Canal)... I call it: Operation Bison...

Hopefully the National Security Advisor will include someone from Mother Jones Magazine on the Canada Operation chat so we can get some real time info... 😉

 

[mcmurtry66]

What D chess (no, not chest) are we up to now with Trump's behind the scenes maneuvering?

Master at work. So intentional you have to wonder if it’s unintentional

 

[mattndallas]

I thought that too until Waltz said he doesn’t know Goldberg and didn’t have his number.

Definitely be interesting to hear the mechanics of how he was added.

 

[HurryingHoosiers]

Or..., even more likely..., he doesn't know what he's looking at...

You think a reporter doesn't comprehend the English language?

Highly doubt they were messaging in code with their little orphan Annie decoders out

 

[hookyIU1990]

I believe hooky is referring to his well-organized FiloFax.

I almost miss the days of having one. I was a DayRunner guy.

 

[Aloha Hoosier]

Definitely be interesting to hear the mechanics of how he was added.

Easy. If it was a government system it would have required a CAC and PIN. This was outside standard government protocol. No excuse is possible.

 

[hoosboot]

Definitely be interesting to hear the mechanics of how he was added.

I have a friend who is pretty high up in government comms and she says there are strict protocols around this kind of stuff. She indicated that it's likely that Waltz had to press the + button in the app and then click the contact he wanted to add.

 

[iuwclurker]

I have a friend who is pretty high up in government comms and she says there are strict protocols around this kind of stuff. It's likely that Waltz had to press the + button in the app and then click the contact he wanted to add.

Trump prefers the - button as a rule.

 

[CO. Hoosier]

I have a friend who is pretty high up in government comms and she says there are strict protocols around this kind of stuff. She indicated that it's likely that Waltz had to press the + button in the app and then click the contact he wanted to add.

What if Goldberg was not a contact? I think that is what Waltz said.