What oath to the nation did Musk take?
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I actually think we’d be better off having a viable 3rd party that’s more moderate. For awhile I don’t feel either party represents how I feel.
Generally when one party drops the ball, it is a boon for the other party at the next election. The whole lesser of 2 evils
In addition to my last comment a third party may be ripe to consider as an alternative, but I think it may take two cycles for the voting public to trust a new party or believe they could have enough power to push through their platform. This may be why it hasn’t successfully happened in my lifetime. I’m not a historian, does anyone know if there’s ever been three viable parties at the same time? I wouldn’t include a tea party, green or independents as they’ve never had enough control to cause real change. They’ve only been disruptive to a certain extent.
And then the party that gets the boon screws it up and the next election it's a boon for the other party. I remember when Obama won big there were several on this forum said that the Republican Party was dead.... I said oh no the Democrats will elect them again with their arrogance and the same thing will happen this time... the Republicans will screw it up and the Democrats will take control.
The Tea Party was a movement within the GOP not an actual political party. If any third party one day breaks through to become a major player, it will be Libertarian.
Lord help us if we ever go the route of Europe and the U.K. Where the “Conservative” party are leftists and the “far right” parties are what we would call moderates.
Parliamentary systems are not all they’re cracked up to be.
Thank you for the explanation of the Tea Party. I had forgotten the intended difference.
Isn't it amazing that Musk, the richest person in the history of the world, like the Carnegies and Rockefellers before him, builds schools, libraries, addresses poverty, world health, and hunger so selflessly?
Oh wait, he does precisely NONE of that.
Oh wait, he does precisely NONE of that.
They got the ball rolling on pushing for never working with the other side. Working with dems was akin to working with terrorists.
I'm sure they are celebrating Musk because they were effectively the DOGE before DOGE came around. Cut spending and cut taxes and pretend that it will be a net positive for the debt.
Neither is not accomplishing anything simply due to refusal to compromise or negotiate.
Depends. If your constituents don’t want what is being proposed, why accomplish it? What is there to negotiate over if you don’t share the same goal?
Listening to your constituents is virtuous.
lol
for the most part, it is the parties and their media telling the constituents what to think.
Most constituents are not reading and understanding bills as they are proposed. They're getting cliff notes from their sources that are often biased.
The Tea Party was a grass roots movement. So no, it’s quite the inverse of what you describe here.
He's a selfish POS. Most of his "charitable giving" benefits his own business interests and, even then, it's little more than pocket change to him. For example, his charitable contributions for all of 2022 totaled $160.5 million. He sometimes makes more than that in a day.
We’re charity shaming people now? Keep your eyes on your own money.
In my opinion voters had been attracted to the Tea Party or a Libertarian point of view because they had concluded both the Democratic and Republican parties were too much alike. They saw a George W. Bush and a Hillary Clinton as being chips off the same block.
Either by plan or coincidence Donald J. Trump entered the scene with a message and background which set him apart from a Bush or Clinton. At long last those who had become dissatisfied with the Dems and Pubs had someone to call their own. They saw a country which had been drifting to what called they called the left (liberal) being returned to values which made the country great under Trump.
The Trump revolution within the GOP has some similar characteristics with the Reagan revolution except for one major difference. Reagan was comparatively kind to the left and really didn't alter the major changes which occurred during the New Deal .
In contrast Trump is at war with the left and under the banner of removing waste, abuse, and corruption is giving us a modern Great New Deal. The leaders of the GOP and the party members across the nation for the most part are on board, for at least the time being. They and the nation are buckling up for what might be a bumpy ride.
