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What does “leader of the free world” mean these days?

Blowing me a kiss?

Sorry, dude, that's not how I roll. Sorry to disappoint you. I wish you luck, though, finding your special person.
Says the "adult". Simply incredible 🤣

You couldn't pour water out of a boot if the directions were on the heel, but have somehow figured out how to use the Quote button. Mighty impressive 👨‍❤️‍👨
 
DANC, didn't Trump want our NATO allies and others to step up to the plate and not rely so much on The U.S.?

According to CoH, Germany, Switzerland, Sweden, and Finland have all broken with long standing historical doctrine and took firm anti-Putin positions. The USA? We don’t even seem to be an effective cheerleader.

So thanks at least partly to Trump, the rest of the free world is more than picking up the slack as the U.S. under Biden encourages and applauds their participation. I'd say Biden's cheer leading has been effective according to CoH's post..
I think he wanted them to just pay their share.

But sure, if you want to say they're doing what they should because Biden is 'cheerleading', I guess you could.

Or you could also say that, thanks to Trump insisting Europe step up, they've found a backbone after Putin has scared the shit out of them.
 
Says the "adult". Simply incredible 🤣

You couldn't pour water out of a boot if the directions were on the heel, but have somehow figured out how to use the Quote button. Mighty impressive 👨‍❤️‍👨
Skippy pretty much says it all
 
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I think he wanted them to just pay their share.
Is it their "share" or what they agreed to pay in the original agreement? 2% wasn't it?
Now that they have seen the light (thanks Putin) should they poney up for all the $$ they are in arrears ? Americans want our money back!
 
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Just imagine the howling that would be going on here if this had happened while Trump was in office.

Speaking of which, why did Putin go to such trouble to get Trump elected only to wait until Joe was in office to make his move?

In that case, Trump would be too busy tweeting about it whether than actually doing anything. Maybe would call in to faux news to gripe about how he is being treated
 
Is it their "share" or what they agreed to pay in the original agreement? 2% wasn't it?
Now that they have seen the light (thanks Putin) should they poney up for all the $$ they are in arrears ? Americans want our money back!
I believe it was 2% of their GDP, yes. I don't know how it was supposed to be split up proportionally.
 
It means sexually harassing people, claiming election fraud and inciting insurrection. Oh nvm, that was orange man buffoon
No, it means stroking little girls' hair and smelling it.
 
I don't know how it was supposed to be split up proportionally.
?? Wasn't it 2% of each members own GDP? Nothing proportional, flat 2% of their own GDP.
They weren't, we pay/paid well over our 2% commit for years. I want' paid back.
 
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?? Wasn't it 2% of each members own GDP? Nothing proportional, flat 2% of their own GDP.
They weren't, we pay/paid well over our 2% commit for years. I want' paid back.
Isn’t 2% of their GDP for their own defense spending and they make their stuff available to NATO? Like no one is cutting massive checks like that TO NATO are they?
 
Isn’t 2% of their GDP for their own defense spending and they make their stuff available to NATO? Like no one is cutting massive checks like that TO NATO are they?
Yes, they're supposed to spend 2% of their GDP in Defense spending.
 
Isn’t 2% of their GDP for their own defense spending and they make their stuff available to NATO? Like no one is cutting massive checks like that TO NATO are they?
I believe you are correct on this. It was supposed to be, err'body on the team build "this" much arms and keep them. When it hits the fan or when we need to use all of those combined arms as leverage, we all put them in the same proverbial basket. Until someone (Euchre high card man) called their BS, all the leverage was "hey look at all of those American arms that WE will use against you".
We had to leverage taking all of our toys home, for the others to simply do what they agreed to do for decades. As far as I am concerned, we need more "negotiations" like that.
 
DANC, didn't Trump want our NATO allies and others to step up to the plate and not rely so much on The U.S.?

According to CoH, Germany, Switzerland, Sweden, and Finland have all broken with long standing historical doctrine and took firm anti-Putin positions. The USA? We don’t even seem to be an effective cheerleader.

So thanks at least partly to Trump, the rest of the free world is more than picking up the slack as the U.S. under Biden encourages and applauds their participation. I'd say Biden's cheer leading has been effective according to CoH's post..

Zelensky criticizes Biden for delaying delivery of weapons until after the invasion.........MSM does not cover it.

 
Zelensky criticizes Biden for delaying delivery of weapons until after the invasion.........MSM does not cover it.

He was just waiting til they dug up dirt on Trump ;) little leverage. Nothing wrong with learning from his predecessor...since he was always right in all he did ;)
 
He was just waiting til they dug up dirt on Trump ;) little leverage. Nothing wrong with learning from his predecessor...since he was always right in all he did ;)
Biden---His entire career is 'wrong, too little or too late'. Pretty critical in this situation, wouldn't you think? Zelensky was also asking for sanctions last year. Remember his BS about Putan being scared of him becoming president? How did that work out?
 
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I don’t think the phrase ”leader of the free world” means what it used to. It might not even be a useful framework. Back in the days of the Cold War, the division implied by phrases like the “free world” meant something. Now globalization and entanglements generated by such things as Russian energy fuzz up the easy distinctions of the past. There is no question that Biden could take more servere and meaningful anti-Putin action, but he thinks he is limited by other considerations. And Biden was Obama’s guy in Ukraine. What role does that play? On the other hand Germany, Switzerland, Finland, and Sweden don't see such limitations and they each show leadership. Hell, Switzerland and Sweden didn’t even take sides against Hitler, now look. And Germany? What a quick, remarkable and complete about face for them.

I keep thinking about our strong action taken when Iraq invaded Kuwait. The firm US leadership then is remarkably different from our luke-warm response today and I wonder what’s changed. Is it because Russia has nukes and Putin has a button? Maybe. If so, then why did Biden take his knee off of Iran’s neck? Inexplicable.
Globalization not looking great right now. Europe most exposed by far.

Being taken out to the woodshed and beaten
 
I read that article and mostly agree. But she blames Trump for weakening NATO, or planning to, and that's just BS.

She needs to look at the last year and point to the cause of this - massive inputs to Putin's war chest because of increased energy prices. And that is all on Biden.
I think Trump was considering leaving NATO because Europe wanted the US to pay for everything. It's about time they step up because like someone mentioned before this is more of a European problem.
 
I think Trump was considering leaving NATO because Europe wanted the US to pay for everything. It's about time they step up because like someone mentioned before this is more of a European problem.
Right- that was his ace card - if you don't pay up, we'll consider leaving.

They paid up. There was no chance Trump would pull out of NATO. He might have blustered, but it was to get Europe to step up to their own defense, which they did, thankfully.

And now they can see for themselves why it's important to do so.

Really, does anyone believe The Moustache anymore, after his previous claims were proved to be lies?
 
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