What do these 21 cowards have in common?

cosmickid

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Well nothing like taking a book by a Socialist which opines on the evils of Fascism to juxtapose who Orwell intended for the "sheep" to represent...Not only was Orwell anti-Fascist in personal belief, but he actually travelled to Spain to fight for the Republic in their struggle against Franco and the Fascists. He wrote an excellent book Homage to Catalonia which spoke to his experiences in Spain and what he personally witnessed...

Animal Farm was written in 1945, this is what he said about it and all his writing in 1946... Excerpt from an essay entitled "Why I Write".

"The Spanish war and other events in 1936-37 turned the scale and thereafter I knew where I stood. Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism, as I understand it."

Well the FBI Conspiracy Theory is quickly working its way up the "crazy ladder", right before our eyes... Tucker threw it out there to see if it would stick, Crazy Louie hinted it had to be true,and now MTG has proclaimed that it's not only true but that it's basically the reason most of the latest terrorist warnings/arrest involves the far right-wing she caters to... You guessed it- it's the DEEEEEP STAAAAATE!!


Of course, Gaetz is on the bandwagon as well. I'm positive it has nothing to do with the ongoing probe by the DOJ/FBI into his sleazy activities...
 

Bowlmania

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The unsaved are rudderless. Christians have Jesus and trump to lead us to victory.
I laughed out loud when I read this and then it occurred to me that perhaps you're serious. If so, please remind me of the Christian values Trump espouses. Ripping off contractors? Ripping off his own charitable foundation? Defrauding his "university" students? Serial adultery? Grabbing women by the p*ssy? Lying repeatedly about a public health crisis? Lying repeatedly about pretty much everything? Never asking God for forgiveness? (he admitted to that in an interview).

How exactly does Trump's life comport with the gospels?
 

mcmurtry66

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I think the people involved with last summer, who were the targets of LEO attempts to apprehend them have for the most part been arrested/charged and are for the most part winding their way thru the justice system. I know in Portland there were undercover Treasury Agents (IIRC, that was the branch) who were driving around the streets of the roughly 2 block area (near the Courthouse) where the rioting occurred and grabbing suspected rioters and whisking them away...

Oregon Live sent camera crews on the streets in July to document the reality of the situation in the city on a daily basis.


People who actually live in Portland were shocked to learn that apparently, their city was on fire because for 90% of Portland life went on in a pretty normal way...

Trump claimed in an Aug 2020 ploy for votes that Portland was on fire. Politifact did a fact check and interviewed a number of residents, including spokespeople for both the Fire Dept and the Police Bureau...

"We are not on fire. We have not been on fire," said Lt. Rich Chatman, a spokesperson for Portland Fire & Rescue, adding that there has been "a steady and remarkable decline in the number of fires for the last few years and certainly decades."

"There’s a lot of damage around the federal courthouse," Chatman said. "But the fact of the matter is this is a very small area of even downtown. We are not under siege."

"For the average resident of Portland, they probably never lay eyes on some of these fires," Chatman added. "This is a very concentrated area."

The Portland Police Bureau provided PolitiFact with a map and timeline of the protests from May 29 to Aug. 31. It details where each has taken place, whether a riot was declared, whether arrests were made, and whether the protesters used projectiles, fireworks, vandalism or fires.

By our count, there were 54 fires set across 95 nights of demonstrations, which have largely taken place at one of 10 discrete locations, according to the map and timeline".


It sounds like the situation you'd have in Indy if the area around the Post Office and the Park across the street (near the main Library) were the nightly site of protests. Would it be correct to characterize Indy as a "battleground" when none of the folks in the surrounding areas of Marion Co would even be aware of "riots", and people attending Colts or Pacers games might not even hear the noise?

for 90% life went on pretty well. lol that 10% constitutes a hell of a lot of people chief
 
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Jg48

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Well nothing like taking a book by a Socialist which opines on the evils of Fascism to juxtapose who Orwell intended for the "sheep" to represent...Not only was Orwell anti-Fascist in personal belief, but he actually travelled to Spain to fight for the Republic in their struggle against Franco and the Fascists. He wrote an excellent book Homage to Catalonia which spoke to his experiences in Spain and what he personally witnessed...

Animal Farm was written in 1945, this is what he said about it and all his writing in 1946... Excerpt from an essay entitled "Why I Write".

"The Spanish war and other events in 1936-37 turned the scale and thereafter I knew where I stood. Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism, as I understand it."

Nice attempt to divert the point. But, in the end, sheep are just sheep. Limited understanding and blind conformity, Bleat your little hearts out.
 
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rocket_knight

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I laughed out loud when I read this and then it occurred to me that perhaps you're serious. If so, please remind me of the Christian values Trump espouses. Ripping off contractors? Ripping off his own charitable foundation? Defrauding his "university" students? Serial adultery? Grabbing women by the p*ssy? Lying repeatedly about a public health crisis? Lying repeatedly about pretty much everything? Never asking God for forgiveness? (he admitted to that in an interview).

How exactly does Trump's life comport with the gospels?
I was hoping VPM would help enlighten the heathens. But I'll try. Salvation is a gift that no one can brag about but honest signs of salvation like wealth, success and luck are proof of being in favor with God. Max Weber wrote about this idea.
 
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I laughed out loud when I read this and then it occurred to me that perhaps you're serious. If so, please remind me of the Christian values Trump espouses. Ripping off contractors? Ripping off his own charitable foundation? Defrauding his "university" students? Serial adultery? Grabbing women by the p*ssy? Lying repeatedly about a public health crisis? Lying repeatedly about pretty much everything? Never asking God for forgiveness? (he admitted to that in an interview).

How exactly does Trump's life comport with the gospels?
Well, if you ask Trump, there is this:


This proves he is more modest than John Lennon:


But, if you ask Mike Pompeo or Sarah Huckabee, you might get yet another answer:

 

Bowlmania

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I was hoping VPM would help enlighten the heathens. But I'll try. Salvation is a gift that no one can brag about but honest signs of salvation like wealth, success and luck are proof of being in favor with God. Max Weber wrote about this idea.
So does that mean Trump was out of favor with God from 1985 to 1994 when he reported $1.2 billion in losses?

Max Weber had some important things to say. So does Joel Osteen, a very likeable guy worth $50 million who clearly spends serious money on suits, a tailor and a personal trainer. But the prosperity gospel, in my view, is nonsense. Jesus emphasized rewards in heaven, not on earth.

And then there's this: "Then Jesus said to his disciples, 'Truly I tell you, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God." Matthew 19-24.
 

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for 90% life went on pretty well. lol that 10% constitutes a hell of a lot of people chief

They have riots every night, homicides are through the roof, theft is growing at an exponential rate, more police officers are quitting daily, businesses are fleeing the city, and Wheeler's solution is to stop enforcing traffic laws
 

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They have riots every night, homicides are through the roof, theft is growing at an exponential rate, more police officers are quitting daily, businesses are fleeing the city, and Wheeler's solution is to stop enforcing traffic laws

Do you have any evidence that policing rolling stops and speeding has any impact in either direction on homicides?
 

Spartans9312

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Do you have any evidence that policing rolling stops and speeding has any impact in either direction on homicides?
You know what disproportionately affects minorities in Portland? Homicides, assaults, robberies, lack of police response etc.
A failing city with a failing Mayor.
 

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You know what disproportionately affects minorities in Portland? Homicides, assaults, robberies, lack of police response etc.
A failing city with a failing Mayor.

Sure, and I'd much rather police were focused on those types of problems rather than minor traffic infractions.
 

DrHoops

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Some nice projection there.

It was a political protest that got out of hand. You all should be well versed in that after all of the political protests that have gotten out of hand on your side. It was mostly peaceful though, so all good...or so I have been told.
I guess erecting gallows was just a protest “getting out of hand”. Whoops!
 

mcmurtry66

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Sure, and I'd much rather police were focused on those types of problems rather than minor traffic infractions.
I understand what you’re saying but people driving like shit and traffic violations are impt. Blacks are more likely to be involved/injured/die in car crashes. It’s rough bc this is where I do believe racial profiling occurs.
 

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RANGER: Yet you can type all of this without turning that around and explaining how the Democrats leadership should say the same as the destructive rioters and murderers from last summer.
BOWL: I heard Biden - - on multiple occasions during the campaign - - condemn the violence. He talked about distinguishing between legitimate peaceful protest and "opportunistic violent destruction." I can provide links if you're doubtful.

Tone? You were suggesting Dem leadership was hypocritical by not condemning last summer's violence. I responded that Biden did, in fact, condemn the riots of 2020. What in hell's f*ck are you talking about?

And, for the second time, I was a Republican for years. I'm not a Dem and never have been, but keep holding onto your bullshit default argument that I'm a partisan hack.

Your posts used to be worth reading.

Ranger is a partisan hack in denial
 

IU_Hickory

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I guess erecting gallows was just a protest “getting out of hand”. Whoops!

He fails to find the distinction that no democrat politicians organized or instigated the blm protests and in fact condemned the protests that turned to violence that summer.
 
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BradStevens

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Well nothing like taking a book by a Socialist which opines on the evils of Fascism to juxtapose who Orwell intended for the "sheep" to represent...Not only was Orwell anti-Fascist in personal belief, but he actually travelled to Spain to fight for the Republic in their struggle against Franco and the Fascists. He wrote an excellent book Homage to Catalonia which spoke to his experiences in Spain and what he personally witnessed...

Animal Farm was written in 1945, this is what he said about it and all his writing in 1946... Excerpt from an essay entitled "Why I Write".

"The Spanish war and other events in 1936-37 turned the scale and thereafter I knew where I stood. Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism, as I understand it."

What you write is true, but you left out that Orwell also saw totalitarianism in Soviet-style communism.

Animal Farm's target was THAT, not German fascism. In fact, if you read Homage to Catalonia, he has a lot of criticism of the Soviets and communism in that war.
 

mashnut

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I understand what you’re saying but people driving like shit and traffic violations are impt. Blacks are more likely to be involved/injured/die in car crashes. It’s rough bc this is where I do believe racial profiling occurs.

If you believe that police are prioritizing traffic stops for actual dangerous behavior rather than for revenue I have a bridge to sell you.
 

mcmurtry66

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If you believe that police are prioritizing traffic stops for actual dangerous behavior rather than for revenue I have a bridge to sell you.
Of course it’s for revenue but what’s your point. Failure to signal, speeding, no brake lights etc. as I said blacks die at a higher rate from car crashes. Not enforcing traffic laws is stupid
 
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  1. Lauren Boebert of Colorado
  2. John Rose of Tennessee
  3. Andy Harris of Maryland
  4. Thomas Massie of Kentucky
  5. Bob Good of Virginia
  6. Louie Gohmert of Texas
  7. Barry Moore of Alabama
  8. Ralph Norman of South Carolina
  9. Matt Rosendale of Montana
  10. Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia
  11. Chip Roy of Texas
  12. Paul Gosar of Arizona
  13. Andy Biggs of Arizona
  14. Warren Davidson of Ohio
  15. Scott Perry of Pennsylvania
  16. Matt Gaetz of Florida
  17. Greg Steube of Florida
  18. Andrew Clyde of Georgia
  19. Jody Hice of Georgia
  20. Mary Miller of Illinois
  21. Michael Cloud of Texas

This should be completely disqualifying. This would be no different than doing a fundraising event with David Duke or Louis Farrakhan.
I've been a critic of the bigots Democrats have on their side. Gosar hanging out with a Neo-Nazi wannabe is idiotic at best.
 
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