I've never seen Majerus and lean in the same sentence before.
We fired Sampson
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It’s hilarious that some people think he was fired for phone calls and not something entirely different.
Well played
Forgot about that one. BwahahaBruce Pearl is the paradigm in the shirtless division:
If you hire somebody with baggage, then you have to be prepared for it: constant monitoring or looking the other way. IU was too holier than thou, which makes no sense why they hired him.
The hardest part is the phone call rule changed 2 years later: kind of arbitrary and unfair in retrospect.
Sampson would have won and won big at IU.
The hardest part is the phone call rule changed 2 years later: kind of arbitrary and unfair in retrospect.
Sampson would have won and won big at IU.
I was pissed. I MIGHT have been okay with him coming back had he not also lied to the NCAA. It was only phone calls. Maybe not a slap on the wrist since it was his second offense, but it wouldn't have been starting over.
It was the right thing to do at the time. Sampson screwed up a good run with IU. I hate we have endured Crean, Archie and Woodson, but they aren't his fault. It is our fault we are where we are. It is what it is.
Turd that wrecked the Iu program. How many nattys has he won to date? 38 years and none. Sure seems to me if he was that great of a coach there might be one since he screwed IU. This year is his best chance. After all that time seems he due, but don't hold your breath. Not the guy I wanted when Davis went on his way or would I ever root for.
Seems that a lot of folks were rightly proud about Hoosier basketball doing it the right. But now that the Hoosiers have been mediocre for a couple of decades, doing it the right way is being viewed as the downfall of the program. Ironic.
Firing Sampson didn't mean IU had to hire Little Archie and Woody years later.
It’s been a spiral of bad decisions that started with hiring him. Brilliant academia but imbecilc administrators..
Sampson would won a championship at Indiana. I am worried we passed on Beard for DeVries I think Beard could of won a championship at Indiana will see how DeVries does but most wanted Beard but maybe DeVries will be good who knows.
Beard will never win an NCAA championship unless he allows someone else to coach offense for him.
At least the rest of the nation holds the Indiana basketball program in very high regard for it's clean program.
It’s almost like folklore now.
The young posters gather around to hear from those of us in the 50+ group tell tales of the days when IU had a program that was legitimately a threat to win a title each year.
Those were great memories. When people get giddy over just making the tournament, you realize the whole thing has fallen off the map. I’d lump IU in with teams like Georgetown and Marquette.
Sampson is a good coach. His judgment skills leave a lot to be desired. Dumbass didn’t even need to do what he did while at IU. He had the perfect setup. Believe it or not, the Oklahoma AD (Joe Castiglione) thought the world of Sampson. He was crushed when Sampson left for IU despite what was going on with the investigation.
So much so that in 2014 when Sampson was able to come back to coach college basketball again, Castiglione sent him a ladder with a note saying something to the effect of “your going to need this one day when you cut down the nets.”
Unfortunately, I have a strong suspicion that Sampson’s season will end against Duke much the same way his season at Oklahoma ended against IU 23 years ago. The ladder will stay in the garage.
Our current goal is the level of performance that had people saying Knight had lost it and needed to go, 20 wins and a tournament berth.
| 1993–94 | Indiana | 21–9 | 12–6 | 3rd | NCAA Division I Sweet 16 |
| 1994–95 | Indiana | 19–12 | 11–7 | T–3rd | NCAA Division I Round of 64 |
| 1995–96 | Indiana | 19–12 | 12–6 | T–2nd | NCAA Division I Round of 64 |
| 1996–97 | Indiana | 22–11 | 9–9 | T–6th | NCAA Division I Round of 64 |
| 1997–98 | Indiana | 20–12 | 9–7 | T–5th | NCAA Division I Round of 32 |
| 1998–99 | Indiana | 23–11 | 9–7 | T–3rd | NCAA Division I Round of 32 |
| 1999–2000 | Indiana | 20–9 | 10–6 | 5th | NCAA Division I Round of 64 |
If Woodson does what Knight did at the end, he's still here with a pay raise and 5 year extension.
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My top choice was Bruce Pearl….but IU is a step down for him.
A hire of either Beard or Pearl would have brought out the worst of Bloomington’s woke contingent.
Maybe...But he was pretty damn good.Devil's advocate:
Sampson has admitted that his time in the NBA under Pop and Skiles had a big effect on his coaching. This Sampson is not the Sampson we had.
How the NBA rebuilt Houston coach Kelvin Sampson's career during his show-cause penalty
Kelvin Sampson spent six years coaching in the NBA after getting a show-cause penalty from the NCAA. He rebuilt his career and is flourishing at Houston.www.usatoday.com
43-15.overall
22-4 when shit hit fan.
Dude had IU at an elite level. And in a mere 2 years.
He would have been a monster here.
And while We starve to death with our integrity in place, the NCAA Enforcement Division has the North Carolina situation handed to Them and does nothing with it. Class Papers ghost written for Athletes by Academic Advisers or other students, sparse class attendance, and Geology 101 aka "Rocks For Jocks" the toughest class of the Semester. So while UNC laughed all the way to the Bank and continued to make money by participating without penalty, We end up paying a heavy price for having the honesty to self report. Next time look the other way.
There was one more reason to not like the hire (I agree about the known cheating as a reason). He was a DEI hire. The outgoing IU president wanted to replace one minority Davis with another, Sampson.
DEI. lol Sampson is LITERALLY a Native American. His people were here THOUSANDS of years before you and your band of bathtub farts were.
Was he Woke, too? Did he reek of Critical Race Theory?
You folks kill me. Please tell me you don't call anybody else "triggered". You are locked and loaded, like my neighbor last night: all I said was "so I took my girls to see Snow White last night".....and JFC I had to listen to 3 minutes of essentially "I have a tiny doink' from this guy.
By the same people with as few brain cells as this guy and now they all wear red hats around.
You are the triggered one.
Who pushed Sampson hiring at IU is relevant
Staff reportsThe Herald Times
In February, at the peak of the controversy over the hiring and retention of former Indiana University men’s basketball coach Kelvin Sampson, the Herald-Times filed an open records request that included electronic mail messages relating to Sampson’s hiring. Review of the e-mails produced by the university suggest that athletic director Rick Greenspan, who has been the subject of much speculation and criticism for his role in Sampson’s hiring, did not act alone in the decision to offer the IU position to Sampson. Former IU Alumni Association President Ken Beckley wrote in February that former IU President Adam Herbert and at least one trustee “led the charge” to hire Sampson. Greenspan also confirmed Herbert’s role along with “a couple of trustees.
So??? Nothing earth shattering here.
Hey MAGA-boy...learn what DEI means instead of just applying it every time you see a person of color get a job.
I know what it means, I distinctly remember Herbert saying something about replacing a minority with a minority.
splitting hairs a bit here. Hiring someone based on merit is certainly not DEI, however, hiring someone based on the boxes they check is. So, how do we handle it when both merit and checked boxes are true?
TDS on display on a basketball forum. Just cant help themselves.
The Sampson threads are amusing. Someone lay out the premise where IU would offer him the job and why he would take it after all that’s said and done since his departure.
Second question- with all the coaching positions open each year, why has he stayed at Houston…the climate (the humidity is killer), the challenge, what?
He’s a good coach but there are probably good reasons why he hasn’t landed a position at a bigger university.
“Os-kar, I’ll hang up and listen…”
Second question- with all the coaching positions open each year, why has he stayed at Houston…the climate (the humidity is killer), the challenge, what?
He’s a good coach but there are probably good reasons why he hasn’t landed a position at a bigger university.
“Os-kar, I’ll hang up and listen…”
IU had to go out of their way to hire a known cheater.
Then at the presser they said that what he did at OK could “never” happen at IU. Uh huh. Either they were lying or they were completely inept.
Either way, IU got their just desert.
The day of the hire we lost our ability as fans to sit upon our high horse talking about how Nobel we are. I see post after post talking about how the only thing holding back IU from being elite again is that we have such elite moral standards. Hogwash. Either IU tried cheating and ended with egg on their face, or they had zero institutional control, over something they should have been scrutinizing (and an intern stumbled upon).
Then at the presser they said that what he did at OK could “never” happen at IU. Uh huh. Either they were lying or they were completely inept.
Either way, IU got their just desert.
The day of the hire we lost our ability as fans to sit upon our high horse talking about how Nobel we are. I see post after post talking about how the only thing holding back IU from being elite again is that we have such elite moral standards. Hogwash. Either IU tried cheating and ended with egg on their face, or they had zero institutional control, over something they should have been scrutinizing (and an intern stumbled upon).
I believe he was the best available on the market at that time purely from a basketball standpoint. Maybe additional oversight (feedback) would have helped.
Yes I remember all the discussion by the announcers of what a dirty coach Sampson is and thinking boy I'm glad they aren't talking about IU.
Oh wait there was none.
