I’m not a Purdue fan..good lord. Heaven forbid you acknowledge another program doing things well.
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I’ll be honest, I don’t get all the sh!t bsmitty gets from this board. I guess it’s from him being pretty adamant that Sisley was Purdue bound. Obviously he crashed and burned on that one, but hey, all the signs were there. And we all miss sometimes.
Other than that, dudes been pretty spot on. Woodson was a terrible hire. We’re are a very poorly coached team. And there’s other teams that are way better coached, that actually won with less talent than we have.
Dudes called all that out. And I do remember when some of us were cheerleading the Woodson hire, dude was like ‘why’ ?
I got bad info on Sisley, I was told he was a silent commit to painter. Who told me is typically very in the “know”.
Woody was a hire that made zero sense. Older basically washed out NBA coach. He would have never even got a sniff at any other high major program.
IU went cheap and easy and is paying the price.
His love affair with purdoo and pork chop is just so...unnatural.
Why any IU fan holds that school up as a beacon of hope and inspiration is beyond me.
I assume I'm not the only one tired of hearing it, since I'm not the only one blowing him shit.
Basically what I was saying. If we played like we did last night against Wisconsin, we will win that game.
I don’t have a love affair of anything PU. Like I said, I respect how they are coached and how Painter is doing it. He is also doing it with Mainly Indiana kids. As a fan of Indiana high school basketball, I enjoy seeing the Indiana kids have success. I hope they lose every game they play to be honest but that’s not the reality of how things have changed between IU and PU
Purdue can rot in a million hells with the fury of a million suns, but they are light years from us.
They have a real coach. He’s paid his dues. He’s a stand up guy. He recruits to his system. ‘Get old, stay old.’
In no way am I comparing Painter to RMK, but if RMK was doing it today, this would be his route.
Painter finished dead last with the Ronnie and Terone years. Then completely changed his strategy. He’s adapted. He wins and he’s done it with no shame.
His success is becoming Bo Ryan like.
His tournament success and failures are pretty steady to any active coach, coaching now. And he’s probably got another 10 or so years in him.
Grrrrrr….. I hate Purdue and Painter but damn… I’d trade…
I understand. I'm just tired of hearing about how good they are in every third post of his.
I don’t think IU went cheap on Woodson. They went desperate. We offered Stevens a brinks truck and when he said no, we just tried to save face.
I’m tired of watching how smart they are. They really aren’t that good. Just fundamentally sound.
For me I was willing to give Woodson a chance because he was a great player here and played for RMK in his prime. I didn’t imagine he was a clone of Knight but thought he at least teach good fundamentals and demand effort and focus. The reality was completely unexpected to me.
Same. Did my best to get behind it, but halfway through last year the writing was on wall.
Hiring a coach who has never coached in NCAA and is a buddy of BOT member and an ex player.
6 year $3 million a year.
In comparison Dan Hurley is 6 year $50 million
Well, if the rumors are true and the Brinks truck was backed up for Stevens at some ridiculous number then the money was there.
The fact that Woodson "is a buddy of BOT member and an ex player.", I believe is the reason he was hired.
Fife and Matta being hired and IU "going cheap" was because Dolson was never on board with the hire.
Dolson didn't go cheap, he negotiated a contract based on Woodson's experience.
However with our non-impressive non conference work, 11-9 is still very iffy for NCAA Tournament- our NET will be like 53 if what you say occurs does- me just give me 4 more losses- 10/10 is not what Woodson promised he could achieve with an opened check book.,
As the season wears in, it's looking more like Southern Cal was the best win.
Its not just Sisley. He isn't an IU fan. Roots for ND in football. Said Romeo wasn't coming to IU. Said we should hire Archie Miller. Routinely goes on game threads and declares games over in the first half.
Plus he has Purdue's resume and roster apparently memorized. He admitted last week he's just trolling people here.
Plus he has Purdue's resume and roster apparently memorized. He admitted last week he's just trolling people here.
I have been on here since Mike Davis years dude. Yes I have not hid from being a ND football fan. Not one time…Romeo recruitment was a shit show…Adidas money thrown around, etc.
at the time Archie looked like a good hire based off how his teams at Dayton played. Yes I have been wrong on some recruitments…but so have some of the writers for these sites that people pay to get info from. I like 45 minutes from Lafayette and I’m surrounded by PU fans and not to mention they have a ton of Indiana high school kids (which I follow Indiana high school basketball). I have been 1000% right on Woodson and I was 1000% right on this team in the off season. If you don’t like me because of this…I really don’t give AF.
Cheap and easy like your answer?
If QB was behind the hire, SD had no choice but, IMO, he did his best to mitigate the situation.
It appears ONE person was behind the hire.
Would you have been happier if IU would have paid Woodson 8 mil a year?
The decision to hire and sign Woodson was cheap and easy. You literally described that with your answer.
Johnson ball did not work well for Painter that's for sure . Yeah, he definitely learned from it and formulated a plan that's made his program remain Keady like.
I did no such thing.
I said that one person was the reason for the hire. I guess if you think that being told who to hire is easy but I am confident that SD would not have made that hire.
At least SD compensated him accordingly but it had NOTHING to do with being cheap.
Low standards and low expectations.
Not surprising from Woody’s big supporter.
And, we’re not close. We’re not good at all the little things that good teams do. In fact, we’re terrible at all the things that well-coached teams do. 20 turnovers is atrocious.
So this was a long vetted out process and Iu went out and identified and paid top dollar for an established winner? Or did they give an average salary for BIg basketball coach who happened to be a legacy hire. Call it what you want but that was a cheap and easy hire for IU and it played out about as good as the hire was. So I’m not sure what you are arguing about.
Jesus man. They tried to pay Brad Stevens 70 mil for 7 years. He said no. Dolson got told what to do and he paid for it what it was worth. IU will pay for someone who is worth the money.
QB is the reason CMW is here. I don’t know what you don’t understand about it. IU isn’t cheap. They just proved it with the Cignetti contract.
It's like Chris Ballard. He has convinced a lot of people that it takes years to get a winner. He sells that it's a plan and people must be patient.Woodson just needs more time.
I’m not a huge Woody supporter. I’ve been very critical, but at the end of the day, you can’t deny that we’re not close to being on the NCAA tournament. At that point, it’s a crap shoot.
If I follow your double negative, you're saying you think we're close to being in the tournament? Maybe if the selection were today, but we've got another month of games, and not many wins likely.
What? IU spent millions on this roster and the “hope” is just to possibly get in? Good lord
IU turned the ball over 20 times against PU, the guards that played most of the game were Leal and Trey, and Woody literally said he was not able to call a time out before Rice went hero mode (not that he would have been able to dial anything up). I'm glad IU played hard, but IU is playing with one hand tied behind its back. This program needs a new coach, guards, and a modern approach before it will be worth a damn again.
Why don't you go and polish your gold ND helmet and leave us IU fans in peace.
