I think he's been better than advertised. someone compared him to Vonleh I don't think that's fair at all. he seems to just have a quiet demeanor about him, jay Edwards like but I don't see him as lazy the kid has had a pretty good season all things considered and has played through a few injuries at times. now MM he's another story, I think he has picked it up a little the last few games, but his effort or lack thereof has hurt the team this year.