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I'll pass on Crean 2.0/Pierce Defender.
It's well-past his East Coast bedtime. I'll always remember his Tom Crean game-long rant. Thanks, Dickie.
Lonzo Ball is a special player. Leaf is really good for a frosh. Bryce Alford is an excellent shooter and is a senior who has played a lot of minutes under pressure. The team is set up for success this season. Take away Ball and they lose at least 5 more games.
I would take Alford over Crean because Steve is a warrior and I think he could get top recruits. But I'd take Marshall over Alford, and it hurts to say that.
I would take Alford over Crean because Steve is a warrior and I think he could get top recruits. But I'd take Marshall over Alford, and it hurts to say that.
Nein! No Alford for me plz. UCLA will most likely be bounced from tourney at sweet 16. They are decently talented but don't stand a chance against east coast power squads. Butler could beat them, Kansas will destroy them.
It will be interesting to see cause this is his best team yet. He needs to at lest make the elite 8 with this team.
As a projected 3 seed, they should easily get to 16. Highly doubt 8. They will likely play a 2 seed in sweet 16. If it turns out to be Louisville or Kentucky also as projected, their season ends. Just my opinion. Let the dance begin!
Uh, no. Alford helped organize the 87 reunion a few years ago, and Knight blew them off. He also got pissed at him for taking the Iowa job for some reason.Hiring Alford would maybe be the only thing to get coach Knight back..
I've always felt that taking the Iowa job was a monumental mistake for Alford...and may have changed his career in a negative way. His trajectory was on the rise at that time. He said he "was a Big Ten guy" when asked about it.
Iowa is a low-ceiling situation for just about anyone...including Alford. He should have stayed out of the the conference....landed somewhere like Virginia or Stanford....IU would have been next.
Hiring Alford would maybe be the only thing to get coach Knight back..
What does that have to do with the future and health of Hoosier basketball?
Heck, if the guiding purpose in selecting a coach is their ability to woo RMK back to Assembly Hall, then we may as well cut out the middleman and hire Pat Knight.
I don't know if Steve Alford is the right choice for IU or not. But I can say this much with total confidence: whether or not he is has absolutely nothing to do with Bob Knight and his childish self-exile.
I haven't followed Alford closely, but one glance at his coaching record makes me very nervous. That's a bigger roller coaster ride than Crean.
Taking the Iowa job is the biggest mistake in Alford's Career.. Iowa is a hard place to win and recruit consistently .. Alford shoudl've stayed far away from the big ten if he ever wanted the IU job. Funny how he ends up at New Mexico, where knight almost left IU for.
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In Feinstein's book "A Season On The Brink" Pat called Bobby dumb when Bobby tried to drive his car through a flooded area and killed the motor. Bobby probably only brought Pat to IU as a player so he could get even.I don't think Pat can get Bobby back.
neither does any other coach have anything to do with Bob Knight "and his childish self-exile"...so whats the point?
That is my point.
Knight has nothing to do with this. Whether or not this or that head coach could convince him to come back to Assembly Hall is immaterial. Bob Knight was a great coach for Indiana. But he's in our rearview mirror...Glass & Co. need to make this decision looking only out the windshield.
I was responding to somebody else saying that Alford would be the right choice because he could get RMK to come back. People need to stop being concerned with that. By his own choice, he's never coming back -- and that's just fine. Life goes on, if we let it.
Let Bobby come back home to coach, And let hoosier nation live happily ever after !
Knight is not coming back, that subject is absolutely irrelivant when it comes to this next hire.
We were robbed 15 years ago when the time was right to hire Alford. Clearly the other options have been nothing short of complete fails since then. It's time to complete a late marriage. Has nothing to do with Knight and his animosity towards IU.
We were robbed 15 years ago when the time was right to hire Alford. Clearly the other options have been nothing short of complete fails since then. It's time to complete a late marriage. Has nothing to do with Knight and his animosity towards IU.
Crean has at least been to a Final Four. Why not just keep him if you love these numbers...
Alford did more at South West Missouri Sate then Crean has done in his entire career. It's common knowledge that w/o Dwayne Wade then Crean would not have that on his resume.
Comparing the two as equals is simply being ignorant to the facts or common knowledge about what a real coach brings to the game.
Funny that he's good enough to coach a blue blood team that carries more history then any other University and have them first in the country in 4 offensive categories for you Humber geeks.
Maybe just maybe he's one hell of a coach. Learned from the best, yet coaches with a bit less sarcasm and more patience.
Comparing the two as equals is simply being ignorant to the facts or common knowledge about what a real coach brings to the game.
Funny that he's good enough to coach a blue blood team that carries more history then any other University and have them first in the country in 4 offensive categories for you Humber geeks.
Maybe just maybe he's one hell of a coach. Learned from the best, yet coaches with a bit less sarcasm and more patience.
Iowa fans hate him. New Mexico fans hate him. UCLA fans hate him and still want him gone. Their defense is ranked like in the 100s. That's not going to win anything. And I'm sure that poster who loves Alford will come along shortly to justify that because the game is "evolving," but no; that's atrocious defense. No one has ever won a title with defense ranked that low.
Crean did get to a Final Four. With players he recruited. The idea is to get good players and win. That's what he did. He just doesn't do that enough. Alford did not do "more" at SW Missouri State...he has literally never been past the Sweet 16.
Again, Steve has never been past the Sweet 16 in 21 years. I like how people take away Crean's FF for having a good player, and then also want to remove an entire 9 years from Alford's resume because Iowa is "so hard to win at." They've had 4 or 5 coaches who were more consistent than him. It's based purely on emotion and nostalgia.
If he hadn't played here you'd laugh at his resume. To be honest, it seems like you're trolling at this point with the way you're drooling over his mediocre resume. Crean got us a #1 seed too. The problem is Alford never does anything in the tournament with the talent that he has. A "real" coach? One "hell of a coach?" His resume is Crean 2.0.
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