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US losing the battle against the monkeypox

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Meanwhile, Biden naps.

 
Meanwhile, Biden naps.

Right in time for the November election. Go figure.
 
Right in time for the November election. Go figure.
So the way that this is transmitted, does that explain the curtains on the voting booth? Do you still have to tap your foot under the voting booth wall to Monkey around?
 
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Meanwhile, Biden naps.

So you’re now advocating for federal intrusion into our day to day lives in the name of stopping a benign virus?
 
So you’re now advocating for federal intrusion into our day to day lives in the name of stopping a benign virus?
No. I'm pointing out the lack of blaming the President for Monkeypox like Trump was blamed for Covid.
 
The real failure is we're not even making an effort to learn where and how the system failed (and where it worked) during COVID. We've got our head in the sand hoping the next virus won't be more deadly, and hope is not a strategy.
 
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The real failure is we're not even making an effort to learn where and how the system failed (and where it worked) during COVID. We've got our head in the sand hoping the next virus won't be more deadly, and hope is not a strategy.
Amen
 
The real failure is we're not even making an effort to learn where and how the system failed (and where it worked) during COVID. We've got our head in the sand hoping the next virus won't be more deadly, and hope is not a strategy.

Well hopefully we learned that lockdowns have serious long-term consequences.
 
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Well hopefully we learned that lockdowns have serious long-term consequences.
I hope you don't think that will stop lockdowns from happening during the next pandemic.

Politicians haven't learned a damn thing and, frankly, don't care. It's all about showing they're 'doing something'.
 
I hope you don't think that will stop lockdowns from happening during the next pandemic.

Politicians haven't learned a damn thing and, frankly, don't care. It's all about showing they're 'doing something'.

If they think people are going to abide next go around, they are sorely mistaken. It will cause a revolution.
 
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Well hopefully we learned that lockdowns have serious long-term consequences.
Of course they do. Does that mean they should never happen, under any circumstances?

We now have the benefit of hindsight to learn what worked and what didn't. We need a coordinated and comprehensive plan to study and learn how we can do better next time.

Trust in the government's ability to respond is in shambles, and that leaves us vulnerable. The only way to start to repair trust is to take an honest look back and humbly admit failures, and make the case with evidence of where responses worked.
 
Of course they do. Does that mean they should never happen, under any circumstances?

We now have the benefit of hindsight to learn what worked and what didn't. We need a coordinated and comprehensive plan to study and learn how we can do better next time.

Trust in the government's ability to respond is in shambles, and that leaves us vulnerable. The only way to start to repair trust is to take an honest look back and humbly admit failures, and make the case with evidence of where responses worked.
Or you all should have just listened to us the first time. YOu all don't get to walk back your mistakes now. We faught like hell to get you to listen to us the last to years. That horse done left the barn.
 
Trust in the government's ability to respond is in shambles, and that leaves us vulnerable. The only way to start to repair trust is to take an honest look back and humbly admit failures, and make the case with evidence of where responses worked.

How does that approach actually restore confidence? Half of it will be hypothetical.
 
Or you all should have just listened to us the first time. YOu all don't get to walk back your mistakes now. We faught like hell to get you to listen to us the last to years. That horse done left the barn.
You realize over 75% of the people who died in 2021 were unvaccinated, right? If you want to keep picking sides your's doesn't have anything to brag about.
 
If they think people are going to abide next go around, they are sorely mistaken. It will cause a revolution.
No, people are sheep and used to taking commands now - that's been proven.

Next time there will be an even stronger lockdown.
 
Of course they do. Does that mean they should never happen, under any circumstances?

We now have the benefit of hindsight to learn what worked and what didn't. We need a coordinated and comprehensive plan to study and learn how we can do better next time.

Trust in the government's ability to respond is in shambles, and that leaves us vulnerable. The only way to start to repair trust is to take an honest look back and humbly admit failures, and make the case with evidence of where responses worked.
The odd of that happening are somewhere between zero and Hickory making a decent post. But I repeat myself.
 
Why would it be hypothetical? We've got data coming out of ears, we just need people to figure out how to learn something from it.

because what could have or should have happened didn’t actually happen. Math and science are great but are imperfect at times. There’s no way someone is going to have a specific, irrefutable answer to best practices next pandemic. Partly because the next one isn’t going to be like COVID, among other things.
 
because what could have or should have happened didn’t actually happen. Math and science are great but are imperfect at times. There’s no way someone is going to have a specific, irrefutable answer to best practices next pandemic. Partly because the next one isn’t going to be like COVID, among other things.
Start with the data on vaccinations. They didn't stop infection, but they clearly helped avoid serious sickness and death. Yet people were resistant because they feared the vaccines were rushed through. Can we improve confidence in future vaccines?

What about masks? By now we should all know whether and what masks prevent the exhalation of the COVID virus. But I've never seen it simply demonstrated. We're just told to wear them. That's dumb.

As for lockdowns, it probably made sense for NYC to lockdown in March 2020. What about Bloomington - not so sure. How can we be smarter about lockdowns?

There are plenty of pretty basic questions that we need to explore.
 
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Meanwhile, Biden naps.

Good. I wish we would have admitted defeat against Covid early on and scrapped 90% of the sh#t we did to try and stop it.
 
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Start with the data on vaccinations. They didn't stop infection, but they clearly helped avoid serious sickness and death. Yet people were resistant because they feared the vaccines were rushed through. Can we improve confidence in future vaccines?

How much of it was vaccine-related vs. variant-related? While I generally agree with you, the biggest issue was vaccines didn't live up to medical professionals promises or their definition in regards to prevention.

Definition:
a substance used to stimulate the production of antibodies and provide immunity against one or several diseases

I suppose we can next quibble about the definition of immunity, but I stand by my claim that vaccines didn't live up to their billing. And moreover, they continue to become less effective in both prevention of transmission and prevention of severe disease with each variant (e.g., BA.5, BA.4)

What about masks? By now we should all know whether and what masks prevent the exhalation of the COVID virus. But I've never seen it simply demonstrated. We're just told to wear them. That's dumb.

I don't disagree, but part of that depends on a host of factors: viral load, age/size of the person wearing it, variant they are infected with, coughing vs. sneezing, etc. I don't see how someone effectively can control for all of these variables when they, themselves, are unclear.

As for lockdowns, it probably made sense for NYC to lockdown in March 2020. What about Bloomington - not so sure. How can we be smarter about lockdowns?

We can't because when there is a novel virus, we don't know enough about its behavior. To try and anticipate something we will know nothing about seems futile. We do know the long-term negative consequences of lockdowns, in terms of mental health, economic disruption, school/learning detriment, etc.
 
Or you all should have just listened to us the first time. YOu all don't get to walk back your mistakes now. We faught like hell to get you to listen to us the last to years. That horse done left the barn.
To listen to whom about what? We fought like hell to get people to pay attention to getting vaccinated all while Fox News and some Republican politicians did the opposite, for purely political reasons.
 
Let me know when abortions are contagious, stalker boy. You are in rare form following me around tonight. Bless your cranky little heart.
Exactly, and neither is getting pregnant. They have known what causes that for a long time. You just can't resist stalking me can you?
 
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