Kratos Defense has a $50 million project at Crane to test US hypersonic weapons.
US hypersonic
- Thread starter Marvin the Martian
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Tech like this another reason why isolationism is just stupid. All your worst fears are just 30 minutes away.
Good for the local community I suppose, but aren't performing well at all at developing atmospheric hypersonic missiles. We have tried since the cold war and gave up, with all the research that we did belonging to the public domain, which of course Russian and China used.
https://thehill.com/policy/defense/3900329-why-the-us-is-going-full-throttle-on-hypersonic-missiles/
Hurdles in the Hypersonic Race: The United States’ Failed ARRW Program
The U.S. hypersonic program is lagging behind those of its primary adversaries due to multiple factors. The cancellation of the ARRW hypersonic program sheds light on this
thediplomat.com
After spending billions on the ARRW missile, the senate finally had enough and the project was scrapped. Too many demands on that project from too many cooks. They wanted a missile to go faster than Mach 15 in the atmosphere. There's another hypersonic missile that we are developing--can't remember its full initials (HT something or other), that may be prosing at like mach 5 or 6.
Reminds me of the Commanche Helicopter--billions and billions of dollars to literally go nowhere until it was finally scrapped.
Will be anxious to see about the 6th gen fighter. They started development on it back in 2012 and billions already pumped into it: https://www.19fortyfive.com/2022/09/forget-the-f-35-what-exactly-is-a-6th-generation-fighter/
Japan skipped a 5th gen, and has been working like mad on their 6th gen figher: https://engineerine.com/mitsubishi-f-x-fighter-jet/
Good for the local community I suppose, but aren't performing well at all at developing atmospheric hypersonic missiles. We have tried since the cold war and gave up, with all the research that we did belonging to the public domain, which of course Russian and China used.
https://thehill.com/policy/defense/3900329-why-the-us-is-going-full-throttle-on-hypersonic-missiles/
Hurdles in the Hypersonic Race: The United States’ Failed ARRW Program
The U.S. hypersonic program is lagging behind those of its primary adversaries due to multiple factors. The cancellation of the ARRW hypersonic program sheds light on thisthediplomat.com
After spending billions on the ARRW missile, the senate finally had enough and the project was scrapped. Too many demands on that project from too many cooks. They wanted a missile to go faster than Mach 15 in the atmosphere. There's another hypersonic missile that we are developing--can't remember its full initials (HT something or other), that may be prosing at like mach 5 or 6.
Reminds me of the Commanche Helicopter--billions and billions of dollars to literally go nowhere until it was finally scrapped.
Will be anxious to see about the 6th gen fighter. They started development on it back in 2012 and billions already pumped into it: https://www.19fortyfive.com/2022/09/forget-the-f-35-what-exactly-is-a-6th-generation-fighter/
Japan skipped a 5th gen, and has been working like mad on their 6th gen figher: https://engineerine.com/mitsubishi-f-x-fighter-jet/
One of the hardest things to do is know what you need and design for it. It is way too easy to think that wen need X but Y and Z should be added.
It happens to militaries all the time. The Germans built the Panther and Tiger tanks that way, the result being they were totally not what Germany needed. They kept making them bigger (heavier) and more high tech. The end result, they could not be mass produced, broke down easily and were impossible to repair in the field, and drank petrol at an astonishing rate.
We do the same, but also sometimes add in option AA to get jobs into a key congressional district.
We could probably grab some of the work at Crane. But I despise working for DOD - especially when Army Corps is involved.
It’s an exercise in bureaucratic insanity.
Never dealt with DOD- only COE, and they have been better to deal with in recent years. They run a tight ship on costs that is for sure. Getting a change order out of them that is reasonable is still fun.....
