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Tyler Cherry?

Cig likes QB’s with proven production
4 of his last 5 starting QB’s have been transfers/portal guys
Cig just landed a production guy with 2 more years meaning…..
Cherry won’t get meaningful minutes in his first 3 years which means…..
He won’t have production so will be overrecruited by transfers.

Cherrys best chance of playing for IU is to go somewhere else, get experience/production and come back via the portal. I don’t blame him if he is looking for another team.
 
Have no idea. But with our present situation he was the ideal backup. Obviously didn’t want to play second string again and I completely understand, but now we're scrambling for an experienced backup QB. I think it's going to be hard to find one as capable.
I don't really understand why the younger Mendoza or Cherry can't be ready as the backup. When are they ever going to get the chance?
 
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The QB from Arizona State is a RS Freshman,,he more than held his own this season.
I don’t see why Cherry or Mendoza couldn’t be ready by next year.
I think we will have a hard time finding anyone better in te portal.
Most QB’s in portal are not wanting to go somewhere that is looking for a backup.
 
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The QB from Arizona State is a RS Freshman,,he more than held his own this season.
I don’t see why Cherry or Mendoza couldn’t be ready by next year.
I think we will have a hard time finding anyone better in te portal.
Most QB’s in portal are not wanting to go somewhere thst is looking for a backup.
Leavitt at least had played prior to this year and had some experience to build on.
 
As paramount as QB is to success searching for a starting/better QB in the portal is becoming the new paradigm. Proved this season by the success of many past unsuccessful programs.
 
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Coach Cig has frequently touted the ability for his staff to coach up QBs. Second or third year guys better be strongly in the mix to compete to start or in the future recruits will pass on us.

If Cig and staff have the ability they say they do, then surely A. Mendoza and Cherry will be capable at least for backup duty and if necessary starts, by next fall.

They were unable to coach up Tayven to where they believed in him, seemingly. One miss doesn't mean much though. Gotta have the raw talent to be coached up. He did improve a lot it looked like to me.
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I’d also have to think that it would be terrible optics for recruits. The recruited kids have to get a shot to gain experience and possibly a starting role during their IU career. Bringing in a transfer to man the backup role would be demoralizing to the young guys.

I don't think Cig really cares.

If he brings in more competition and a kid transfers out, then they probably weren't as good as who we brought in.
 
I don't think Cig really cares.

If he brings in more competition and a kid transfers out, then they probably weren't as good as who we brought in.

Cigs has said that after this year, he plans to move more towards hs recruiting and away from depending on the portal as much. Of course, that may not include the QB position.

If cigs prioritize production over potential so much that hs recruits think they will never get to play, then it could become an issue.
 
Cigs has said that after this year, he plans to move more towards hs recruiting and away from depending on the portal as much. Of course, that may not include the QB position.

If cigs prioritize production over potential so much that hs recruits think they will never get to play, then it could become an issue.

I just feel that Cig has a feel for who's progressing and who isn't, so if he feels like someone would be a good fit and help us, he's going to go after them and if a kid transfers because of it, I don't think he'll lose sleep over it.

To your last point, I don't want a kid here who doesn't think they can see the field, so if someone doesn't come because they think they will get passed over, that's not someone we should want on the roster, IMO.
 
I just feel that Cig has a feel for who's progressing and who isn't, so if he feels like someone would be a good fit and help us, he's going to go after them and if a kid transfers because of it, I don't think he'll lose sleep over it.

To your last point, I don't want a kid here who doesn't think they can see the field, so if someone doesn't come because they think they will get passed over, that's not someone we should want on the roster, IMO.

Saying more along the lines of a kid that thinks he is great but also thinks the coach will always go with someone who has produced on the field over the player that committed as a freshman and hasn't had a chance.
 
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Coach Cig has frequently touted the ability for his staff to coach up QBs. Second or third year guys better be strongly in the mix to compete to start or in the future recruits will pass on us.

If Cig and staff have the ability they say they do, then surely A. Mendoza and Cherry will be capable at least for backup duty and if necessary starts, by next fall.

They were unable to coach up Tayven to where they believed in him, seemingly. One miss doesn't mean much though. Gotta have the raw talent to be coached up. He did improve a lot it looked like to me.
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100% disagree with this. They didn't miss at all on Tayven. He still has limited experience, but wants to start. Can't blame him. Next year will be his 4th year on a college campus. If not now, when? They coached him up enough to continue the curb stomping vs Nebraska and to beat Washington. He'll be a really good player where ever he lands, but knew they were bringing in Mendoza to start in front of him. It also was probably pretty obvious to him little Mendoza and Cherry were both closing the gap on him. He had to go. It's the new world of college football.
 
100% disagree with this. They didn't miss at all on Tayven. He still has limited experience, but wants to start. Can't blame him. Next year will be his 4th year on a college campus. If not now, when? They coached him up enough to continue the curb stomping vs Nebraska and to beat Washington. He'll be a really good player where ever he lands, but knew they were bringing in Mendoza to start in front of him. It also was probably pretty obvious to him little Mendoza and Cherry were both closing the gap on him. He had to go. It's the new world of college football.
You don't 100% disagree. Because that's what I believe also.

I said the coaches didn't get him to where THEY believe. So that's a miss.

Can say all you want about just 'bringing in competition' for Tayven, but if Coach Cig believed in Tayven, Mendoza wouldn't be coming. They would use the NIL elsewhere.
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You don't 100% disagree. Because that's what I believe also.

I said the coaches didn't get him to where THEY believe. So that's a miss.

Can say all you want about just 'bringing in competition' for Tayven, but if Coach Cig believed in Tayven, Mendoza wouldn't be coming. They would use the NIL elsewhere.
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They also didn't recruit him.
 
Probably going to find out a Florida, Georgia, Texas 2/3* qb recruit etc.. is > than a 3/4* Indiana recruit. The HS as a whole in those areas are just better.
 
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