Trump Zelensky today.....
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You omitted the part where Putin destroyed infrastructure yesterday after he agreed to not do that.🙄
Ego Man is clueless.
No shit….why do I have to post it? Is he not capable?
There was nothing partisan in my post. Some of you dream about Trump. Ask your doctor (not your wife) to start you on 2mg of Abilify they can titrate as needed
Sorry you’re having a bad day. I’ll try to use kid gloves with you in the future.
All I can say is, we don't live in a vacuum. Having nuclear weapons pointed at you is a fact, even if you don't see them.
Losing friends and family in Vietnam would give you a different perspective, since N. Vietnam was supported by the USSR/Russia. They made many American lives worse.
And before you say we shouldn't have been in Vietnam, I would agree. But you can see how socialism has affected the US. Now imagine if we had a full-blown communist government. Fighting communism, either physically or politically, is in our national interest. We haven't always been perfect, but consider the alternative.
Pulling US out of Syria, Bad mouthing NATO, pulling the U.S. out of the Paris Accord- all are things Trump did in term one that Putin celebrated.
Again what has Trump given Putin? So we pulled out the Paris Accord neither China nor Russia are living up to the agreement. Nor many European countries so why should we continue to pay for this. Bad mouthing NATO but telling other countries they needed to pay their fair share I believe that is the Democrats favorite saying. Not unreasonable. Pulling out of Syria again taking young Americans out of harms way.
I guess it hasn't hit your Russian disinformation sites yet.
lmao Russia was run out of Syria, genius.
Bad mouthing NATO by expecting members to pay their fair share?
Pulling out of a bogus climate agreement has nothing to do with Putin.
Sober up.
When we pulled out of Syria and backstabbed the SDF, they went to the Russian backed Assad regime for assistance, thus giving Russia back the influence in Syria that they had lost in 2013.
lol Whut? Trump destroyed a Russian unit in Syria.
You do know Russia was run out of Syria, right? Why would we be there if Russia is not there?
FYI - we still have bases in Syria.
In a different part of Syria. Guessing you skipped reading the linked article.
Oh, now it's Syria but in a different part..... but you said we left Syria.
Keep moving the goal posts - maybe you'll get it right sometime.
I'm starting to think this guy is Trump's problem - Trump trusts him and this guy seems to be buying everything Putin is telling him.
I was just thinking the other day we haven't heard much from Vance lately.....
Such idiocy. What is the other side of the story when Putin’s political opponents disappear? He is definitely a tyrant
If you it take for its truth value, then yes, it is idiocy. But he's a diplomat trying to negotiate a peace deal, where blunt truth might destroy the chance of a deal. I think he would have been better off trying to sidestep the question, though.
We just don’t have the leverage over Russia….the way things stand right now.
I think it should be up to Ukraine. I've read that some European countries are putting together packages to help with the war, so if Ukraine wants to keep fighting and they're getting backing from other European countries, I say let them fight for their freedom.
I was just referencing where we sit as trying to be the negotiator and trying to get the fighting stopped. We have a lot more persuasion that can be applied to Zelensky than we do to Putin…at this moment in time
“We can understand the need to tone down hostile rhetoric amid negotiations, but the Administration’s propensity to fall for Russian propaganda is something else.”
I don't agree with a lot of what Trump does, but him putting sanctions back on Russia is good start.
He needs to keep applying pressure, especially if it hits them economically.
We have some leverage, we have $300 billion of Russia's we have frozen. We can set a date and send that money to Ukraine if there is no settlement.
The Houthi strikes are leverage. Russia supports them.
Knowing Russia's weaknesses is leverage:
Institute for the Study of War
The United States can use the enormous challenges Russia will face in 2025 as leverage to secure critical concessions in ongoing negotiations to end the war by continuing and even expanding military support to Ukraine. Russia will likely face a number of
understandingwar.org
Making it clear if they don't negotiate a peace by X date and the sanctions will NOT come off even in a deal would be leverage to a country that is hemorrhaging.
Russia has sacrificed Syria for Ukraine. She will soon sacrifice the Houthis. We could probably threaten moves against Iran, which would cause Iran to slow arms to Russia for her own defense.
How does Ukraine keep its war effort going on?We have some leverage, we have $300 billion of Russia's we have frozen. We can set a date and send that money to Ukraine if there is no settlement.
The Houthi strikes are leverage. Russia supports them.
Knowing Russia's weaknesses is leverage:
Institute for the Study of War
The United States can use the enormous challenges Russia will face in 2025 as leverage to secure critical concessions in ongoing negotiations to end the war by continuing and even expanding military support to Ukraine. Russia will likely face a number ofunderstandingwar.org
Making it clear if they don't negotiate a peace by X date and the sanctions will NOT come off even in a deal would be leverage to a country that is hemorrhaging.
Russia has sacrificed Syria for Ukraine. She will soon sacrifice the Houthis. We could probably threaten moves against Iran, which would cause Iran to slow arms to Russia for her own defense.
US weapons and dollars…the leverage here outweighs the leverage on Russia by a lot
At this point, Russia is @mcmurtry66 who has already slept with the girl (USA), and McMurtry / Russia is just stalling and coming up with excuses because the girl ended up being too clingy and maybe not as pretty as he thought post 12 Manhattans.
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The leverage on Zsky amounts to zero in terms of stopping the killing. That worthwhile initiative is 100% in the hands of V. Putin.
Trump was left with no cards.
Trump supporters know what $37Trillion debt is doing to this country, and will shut off the tap sooner rather than later.
And good riddance ...
And a chill set in over the water cooler, as the Russian sympathizer entered the lobby carrying his trusted and worn copy of Alexander Dugin's "The Great Awakening vs. The Great Reset". The sympathizer grunted and shook his head vigorously, his eyes twitching with the frenzy of a 1000 piranhas in lake of blood. When he spoke, women cried and dropped their babies. Men grabbed their guns. Children fled. The words came out: "GRRRRRRRRR more borscht". The earth trembled as the sympathizer continued to speak: "putin, putin, putin, putin", then "UKRAINE MUST DIE" over and over.
They sympathizer was more beast than man. A macabre pastiche of hate and dirt. He had a singular drive--the return of Russia to its former glory. This he swore to all the Russian gods, including his special god--Baba Yaga, the russian eater of souls.
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