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Trump Zelensky today.....

Putin is the coach and was the coach. He seems to have a new assistant, though.
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I was in the sauna at my old gym a couple years ago and this guy walks in. Mid 20’s, perfectly healthy (not a gay story I promise), member of one of the more expensive health clubs in Chicago.

He starts talking and he’s got this thick Eastern European accent, I couldn’t place it.

“Where are you from” I ask?

“Ukraine”, he said.

Before I could even say anything.

“Yeah I got the hell out of there like 6 months ago, probably never going back”.

Stories of Ukrainian’s in recent years spending exorbitant amounts of money in Budapest, the Swiss Alps, all across Europe. They all seem to have a lot of dough.
Those are the ones with enough money to leave.
 
As I recall, the French Navy engaged the British at Yorktown. By the end of the war approximately 12K French troops were fighting with the Continental Army.

We should act similarly in Ukraine, lest someone accuse us of being Neville Chamberlain.

No Americans are dying, concisely explain how the hell you are war weary? We have sent them mostly old equipment we would decommission.

In WW2 we sent no troops to Joe Stalin, sent him a crap ton of equipment. Was that wrong?

To remind you, in Korea, Vietnam, and Afghanistan, Russia supplied our enemy. Yes, we didn't belong in 2 of those wars.

We will bear no burden, pay no price... .
 
No Americans are dying, concisely explain how the hell you are war weary? We have sent them mostly old equipment we would decommission.

In WW2 we sent no troops to Joe Stalin, sent him a crap ton of equipment. Was that wrong?

To remind you, in Korea, Vietnam, and Afghanistan, Russia supplied our enemy. Yes, we didn't belong in 2 of those wars.

We will bear no burden, pay no price... .
1.2 million estimated dead and wounded, combined.
 
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No Americans are dying, concisely explain how the hell you are war weary? We have sent them mostly old equipment we would decommission.

In WW2 we sent no troops to Joe Stalin, sent him a crap ton of equipment. Was that wrong?

To remind you, in Korea, Vietnam, and Afghanistan, Russia supplied our enemy. Yes, we didn't belong in 2 of those wars.

We will bear no burden, pay no price... .

Actually there have been several American "volunteers" killed but you are correct that there have been no Active Duty US Servicemen killed ((that we know of))...
 
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1.2 million estimated dead and wounded, combined.
Yes. But blaming us let's Putin off the hook. HE started this war. HE continues the war.

A lot is made that allowing illegal immigration encourages illegal immigration. That is why we must do whatever it takes to stop it. Why would it not hold that illegal annexation begets illegal annexation? Isn't it bad precedent to teach dictators, "take what you want"?

Our entire post WW2 system has been designed to create an international law. We built the UN, the world court, the world bank, IMF, WTO, etc. a whole lot of that was designed to stop world aggression. Is the world better served by the international community tapping out and returning to international darwinism?
 
1.2 million estimated dead and wounded, combined.
Adding to above, we really want this to become the norm? I do not totally trust the numbers, but Human Rights Watch and the Wagner Group defector on forced deportations are to me enough to accept those are happening


Welesa compared this to Reagan with Poland. Were we wrong in opposing occupation of eastern Europe? Are we wrong trying to stop North Korea today, or China? Were we right in doing nothing in Rwanda?
 
What a weird thing to write. You’re not pulling for the yanks? Then move. Leave. F off. Put on your walz shirt pull the peg out and leave. Easy fix. I won’t be pulling for you. You’re not my grandparents American.
Harry Hondo is right, Trump is not about America, he is a dictator who is not supporting our allies. Trump’s agenda is not what America is about and America under Trump cannot be trusted and he makes America look like idiotic cowards. His stupid tariffs will destroy our economy.
 
Harry Hondo is right, Trump is not about America, he is a dictator who is not supporting our allies. Trump’s agenda is not what America is about and America under Trump cannot be trusted and he makes America look like idiotic cowards. His stupid tariffs will destroy our economy.
You’re as dumb as Kurt.
 
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Harry Hondo is right, Trump is not about America, he is a dictator who is not supporting our allies. Trump’s agenda is not what America is about and America under Trump cannot be trusted and he makes America look like idiotic cowards. His stupid tariffs will destroy our economy.
Harry hondo should get on the next plane out of the country and never come back. I have no idea if trump will succeed or bomb but I do know a few things
we aren’t talking about defund and bail projects
The next time the gov tries to lock us down we’ll think twice
The border is fixed
Kids aren’t getting gender reassignment surgeries
We’re looking at gov spending
And a whole lot of Americans don’t want us to be ubiquitous and police the world. They prefer a more isolationist approach and don’t approve of the military industrial complex. Rfk Jr was very vocal about same.

So this may end up great or a bust but the voters elected a candidate based on the america they want to see not you. The amount of counties that moved red is remarkable
 
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Harry hondo should get on the next plane out of the country and never come back. I have no idea if trump will succeed or bomb but I do know a few things
we aren’t talking about defund and bail projects
The next time the gov tries to lock us down we’ll think twice
The border is fixed
Kids aren’t getting gender reassignment surgeries
We’re looking at gov spending
And a whole lot of Americans don’t want us to be ubiquitous and police the world. They prefer a more isolationist approach and don’t approve of the military industrial complex. Rfk Jr was very vocal about same.

So this may end up great or a bust but the voters elected a candidate based on the america they want to see not you. The amount of counties that moved red is remarkable

Just to be clear, ever article out there is going off of what Trump has claimed as apprehensions at the boarder. Actual numbers haven't come out yet. I'm not denying that what he's saying aren't impressive, but we should wait and see what the numbers look like.

 
Just to be clear, ever article out there is going off of what Trump has claimed as apprehensions at the boarder. Actual numbers haven't come out yet. I'm not denying that what he's saying aren't impressive, but we should wait and see what the numbers look like.

 

Cool.

I'd rather wait on the actual numbers then a press release from our administration that continually over inflates or under inflates numbers in their favor.
 
Yes. But blaming us let's Putin off the hook. HE started this war. HE continues the war.

A lot is made that allowing illegal immigration encourages illegal immigration. That is why we must do whatever it takes to stop it. Why would it not hold that illegal annexation begets illegal annexation? Isn't it bad precedent to teach dictators, "take what you want"?

Our entire post WW2 system has been designed to create an international law. We built the UN, the world court, the world bank, IMF, WTO, etc. a whole lot of that was designed to stop world aggression. Is the world better served by the international community tapping out and returning to international darwinism?
I'm not blaming us.

But correctly placing the blame doesn't end the killing, does it?

The UN, world court, etc. don't stop wars, Marv.
 
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