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My local pizza and beer joint has a Weihenstephan Dunkel on tap right now. So good.
I actually have a working theory that craft beer will continue to sink and we will be drinking more imports. And to be honest, I’m good with that. While I like hoppy beers just fine, I’ve always enjoyed lagers more
 
I actually have a working theory that craft beer will continue to sink and we will be drinking more imports. And to be honest, I’m good with that. While I like hoppy beers just fine, I’ve always enjoyed lagers more

These guys opened right before the pandemic. Good beers and good folks. Only lager house locally.

 
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These guys opened right before the pandemic. Good beers and good folks. Only lager house locally.

Murt mentioned Urban Chestnut. They make some stellar German beers. Unfortunately I haven’t seen any at the local Big Red in awhile.
 
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I do. We go and eat there periodically too. It’s important to support small businesses. Our edibles business officially went under today. It’s not easy to start things and get them to work. It’s almost nutty how difficult it is. Every little thing you can do to support small biz against the big guys is vital. Tho Schlafly is old money but…. Point stands
****ing hell. Sorry about the edibles biz.
 
🤣🤣. It’ll be ok. My buddy’s wife is a big baller bitch. Went to school with me and Cortez. Other bud is a jdb twenty guy. But definitely sucks. Boatload of money and sweat equity and hopes and all that shit

How are things with your other main biz? Didn't you have a big meet a while back?
 
I actually have a working theory that craft beer will continue to sink and we will be drinking more imports. And to be honest, I’m good with that. While I like hoppy beers just fine, I’ve always enjoyed lagers more

Man sooo many craft brewers have closed around here last few years. Including some that had gotten pretty big for a while.

Feel like that's just a dead industry in general right now.
 
Reports I'm seeing state that the troop commitments had already been made some time ago, by both Canada and Mexico.
Yes.

MAGA's spin on yesterday's developments as some massive win for Trump is laughable.

Canada had offered the $1.3 billion border strengthening program two months ago. Their agreement to appoint a fentanyl czar is hardly a huge political loss, and the "czar" won't be particularly busy as the amount of fentanyl coming into the US from Canada is de minimis.

Mexico agreed to move 10,000 troops to the border. This is not a first. They did the same, at the request of old Joe, in April of 2021, and at other times before and since.

Here's what happened yesterday. Trump caved on the Mexico and Canada tariffs as a result of blowback from all quarters, and because the looming tariffs were causing the markets to tank. His not-very-big deals yesterday were a face-saving measure.
 
Mexico agreed to move 10,000 troops to the border. This is not a first. They did the same, at the request of old Joe, in April of 2021, and at other times before and since.

I am curious about what impact the Mexican troops will have. There is some evidence the chief movers of fentanyl are Americans. It makes sense, we don't deny Americans entry, and Americans are far less likely to be really searched. So if the Mexican troops just go out and stop illegal crossing, it isn't going to have an impact on American smuggling. If they sit at checkpoints and strip search Americans coming back into America, something our border patrol is far more limited at doing, then it might have a huge impact.

Of course, if they go out and stop the illegals, it makes American smugglers more valuable. So if the goal is to give American smugglers better job opportunities, that is what they will do.

 
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I am curious about what impact the Mexican troops will have. There is some evidence the chief movers of fentanyl are Americans. It makes sense, we don't deny Americans entry, and Americans are far less likely to be really searched. So if the Mexican troops just go out and stop illegal crossing, it isn't going to have an impact on American smuggling. If they sit at checkpoints and strip search Americans coming back into America, something our border patrol is far more limited at doing, then it might have a huge impact.

Of course, if they go out and stop the illegals, it makes American smugglers more valuable. So if the goal is to give American smugglers better job opportunities, that is what they will do.


Sounds like they could serve as a force multiplier.
 
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Apparently whiskey too. There are stories out there that distillers are sitting on huge inventories. I welcome the challenge.
It doesn't seem like it was that long ago they were saying there was a bourbon shortage coming because all the younger ones were drinking cocktails instead of beer.
 
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Yes.

MAGA's spin on yesterday's developments as some massive win for Trump is laughable.

Canada had offered the $1.3 billion border strengthening program two months ago. Their agreement to appoint a fentanyl czar is hardly a huge political loss, and the "czar" won't be particularly busy as the amount of fentanyl coming into the US from Canada is de minimis.

Mexico agreed to move 10,000 troops to the border. This is not a first. They did the same, at the request of old Joe, in April of 2021, and at other times before and since.

Here's what happened yesterday. Trump caved on the Mexico and Canada tariffs as a result of blowback from all quarters, and because the looming tariffs were causing the markets to tank. His not-very-big deals yesterday were a face-saving measure.
lol. Wrong Read the Trump Canada announcement. It’s linked in this thread.
 
I have no problems with getting Mexican troops to the border. I am a little skeptical they will have much impact on drugs. Not if most are coming through the checkpoints by Americans.

Sounds like it. But Cato guys don't like the idea of policing for drug trafficking at all. They've always believed that treating addiction to opiates is the best thing to do.

I used to agree with them. But how many people who become fentanyl addicts ever make it, alive, to lasting recovery from addiction? I'd guess it isn't very high. The whole approach of harm reduction is what drove Oregon to adopt the policy they did. And it was a disaster.

I'm with them that policing the border isn't terribly effective. It's cat and mouse. And mice are smart too. But the border has to be policed anyway. So I look at whatever drugs they're able to capture there as almost a bonus.

We need to do whatever we can to prevent addiction before it starts. How to go about doing that, I have no idea.
 
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Yes.

MAGA's spin on yesterday's developments as some massive win for Trump is laughable.

Canada had offered the $1.3 billion border strengthening program two months ago. Their agreement to appoint a fentanyl czar is hardly a huge political loss, and the "czar" won't be particularly busy as the amount of fentanyl coming into the US from Canada is de minimis.

Mexico agreed to move 10,000 troops to the border. This is not a first. They did the same, at the request of old Joe, in April of 2021, and at other times before and since.

Here's what happened yesterday. Trump caved on the Mexico and Canada tariffs as a result of blowback from all quarters, and because the looming tariffs were causing the markets to tank. His not-very-big deals yesterday were a face-saving measure.
OPEC told Trump to basically f-ck off yesterday as well. he lost a ton of leverage with Canada when that happened.

 
They've always believed that treating addiction to opiates is the best thing to do.
lol. An effective treatment plan will be confinement with no access to drugs.

Libertarians don’t always make sense.

It makes good sense for the government to interdict drug traffic making drugs less available and more expensive.

We gotta cut down on access.
 
We need to do whatever we can to prevent addiction before it starts. How to go about doing that, I have no idea
I pretty much completely agree with you, I have no problem with Mexico policing the border. But it isn't going to end the drug problem.

It frankly is on us to end the drug problem. In few cases are people doing drugs because a cartel is forcing them. It isn't like we blame alcohol imports for alcoholism. How do we get people to not even want to try drugs? No clue, but that is the answer.
 
Because generally, "craft brewers" are ______.

(Hint: starts with a "W" and rhymes with "broke")
You know I hate woke but I don’t think it’s that. It’s just hard beer to drink. Too heavy. Two and I’m bloated. And I never want it in the summer
 
You know I hate woke but I don’t think it’s that. It’s just hard beer to drink. Too heavy. Two and I’m bloated. And I never want it in the summer
I think it was a fad. Several really good ones were bought up years by the big guys. Hopefully the ones that actually do make great beer can hang around.

Half joking, once they all started making hazy IPAs and not much else, I lost interest. I hate those.
 
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Can’t read the article. But I don’t see a Blink. What is it? @Bowlmania posted a misunderstanding of what Trump said about canada. And he missed half the Canadian agreement. Did the WSJ do likewise? The Canadian -American bank problem is still on the table. Not sure about the dairy problem. Mexico has just started, more to come there too.
 
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