Trump at Arlington National yesterday.
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Nobody knows if it's true -- at least, nobody here does. I seem to remember one of these alleged incidents, Gen. Kelly had accused Trump of saying something....and one of the people present when it supposedly happened was John Bolton. But Bolton denied Trump said what Kelly accused him of saying.
That seems kind of important -- because Bolton had already become a Trump critic at the time he denied it.
That said...we very much do know that Trump made a callous remark about John McCain. What was it "I like veterans who don't get captured" or some such bullshit? I was never the biggest fan of John McCain as a politician. And I understand Trump throwing crap back at McCain after McCain had been throwing crap at him. So I'm cool with him returning serve.
But could he have picked a more obnoxious way to do it? John McCain, the Naval officer, had more selfless courage in his pinky than Donald Trump has in his entire corpulent body.
Hoops, he’s just a dedicated GOP conservative setting you straight. Disregard the fact that the victim’s families of fallen soldiers didn’t invite Biden’s incompetent dumbass (who most likely was at least partially responsible for their deaths) to their memorial. We don’t want the narrative to be Biden is an asshat. Nope, the narrative has to be but but but Trump is dumb.
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Can you link to any of the Memorial services held for any of the 65 Military personnel killed during Trump's 4 years? Not to mention the millions that died of covid...
What's that supposed to mean?
Are you suggesting that whoever is POTUS during a pandemic bears responsibility for the people who die in it? If so, that's ridiculous -- and let's try not to be ridiculous.
I think Aloha’s TDS is flaring. I’m sure it itches.
There’s really no way to criticize Trump here, unless you believe NPR’s “anonymous sources”. Lol.
It’s not like he can refuse the invitation. That would be more of a dick move than going.
If I remember correctly McCain had the opportunity to get out of the Hanoi Hilton early once it was discovered his father was an Admiral. He refused as he wouldn't abandon his fellow POW's. In modern parlance that's referred to as the "anti-Walz"
It’s insane.
Sequence of events:
A withdrawal from Afghanistan that was a major f#ck up that we all got to see. The entire World. Leads to the deaths of 13 soldiers while Biden is President.
Several years pass and they invite Trump to the memorial, most likely because they can’t stand Biden.
Anonymous source from NPR (partially government funded news sources) says something about Trump’s staffers being idiots.
Narrative becomes: Trump’s a dumbass. Instead of Biden’s a f#cking piece of shit partially responsible for the deaths of fallen soldiers who families can’t f#cking stand him.
All it took was an anonymous source. It’s incredible. NPR made the story about some f#cking staffers🤣 It’s why I call bullshit on Republicans ever being the dominant party unless they control a majority of the media touch points. It comes down to controlling the narrative.
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What little Federal funding NPR still gets needs to be pulled. As well as funding for any of it's non-profit member stations.
Hmm. I going out on a limb here I know. But maybe both Trump and Biden are dipshits?
Yeah. Say what you want about McCain as a politician. I wasn’t a big fan, for a variety of reasons.
But his bona fides as an American war hero and man of courage and integrity are beyond reproach.
Bolton also said he couldn’t say it didn’t happen because he wasn’t in a position to hear all that was said.
I understand the grief these families feel. But to blame what happened on Biden and absolve Trump of any responsibity is ignoring reality and revising history. Mc Mater made it pretty evident there was penty of blame to go around, and this was right after the election...“White House National Security Council spokesman John Kirby indicated that Biden and Harris did not attended the Arlington commemoration because they weren’t invited.”
“There are many ways that we as a nation and our leaders can observe the third anniversary of Abbey Gate and Mr. Trump was invited by at least one — I think maybe several — of the families to lay a wreath at Arlington, and that is certainly a way to recognize the sacrifice and the loss,” Kirby said.
“But it was a personal invitation by families,” he added”
Trump pays tribute to service members killed in Afghanistan pullout on ISIS attack anniversary – while Biden vacations in Delaware
Former President Donald Trump honored those who died in the Afghanistan withdrawal Monday by joining families of the fallen in a private event at Arlington cemetery — while President Biden is…nypost.com
Not only did Trump's team violate Federal law prohibiting filming for campaign activities within Army National Military Cemeteries. But Cheung who coninues to amaze me with his level of stupidity, basically admitted their guilt when he said the camapign was prepared to release video to prove no altercation occurred...
Video which of course constitutes a violation of Federal Law...
The Bullshit is your candidate, and trying to use a solemn occasion for naked political purposes. I also heard that other Gold Star families were not happy at the cemetary being used to politically promote Trump...
"A withdrawal from Afghanistan that was a major f#ck up that we all got to see. The entire World. Leads to the deaths of 13 soldiers while Biden is President."
I guess we'll mark you down in the "no blame for Trump" camp?
Or that has been confirmed by many people who were there in the room. Firsthand eyewitnesses.
Then denied by Trump loyalists who WEREN'T in the room but act like they were.
I don’t have TDS. I’m trying to help you guys out with reality checks.
Biden really DID botch the Afghan withdrawal plan. He should have torn up the plan that Trump agreed to in February 2020, but for some reason, while he dumped many of Trump policies, he adhered to Trump's stupid pullout.
Your mom should have pulled out
I know you don't care about facts, being a Trumper and all. But the Sgt Major who actually served a great number of those 24 yrs with Walz has called BS on your insinuations. One of the things he pointed out was that Walz discussed running for Congress with him, long before he filed the official paperwork in Feb 2005. Of course filing for Congress in Feb 2005 means that Walz had to initiate his retirement about 9 months to a year prior to his May 2005 retirement date. It don't happen overnight...
Another thing that Sgt Major pointed out was that when they were earlier deployed to Italy to support OEF, they actually thought up until the last minute that they were going to Afghan. So since Walz didn't retire earlier when faced with the prospect of going to Afghan, it's really stupid to imply that the man who served 24 yrs, rose to a rank that probably less than 1% of enlisted reach, and could have been deployed at a moment's notice to any hot spot from age 17 on was "skeered" to go to Iraq.
Really stupid...
This is patently false. You can serve in congress and be in the National Guard. Walz planned to. Walz rushed through his retirement so much so that he didn’t even sign all the necessary paperwork.
You lie, again.
I doubt that. Plans constantly evolve. The Afghanistan withdrawal was botched. It happened on Biden’s watch so he certainly deserves some blame for it.
There’s no hope for you, buddy. We lost you Cosmo. You have a parasitic mind.
The Minnesota National Guard told Fox News that Walz's unit was not given deployment orders to Iraq until July 2005 and he had put his retirement papers in five to seven months prior to his retirement in May 2005.
Do the math.
That means October- December 2004 he filed for retirement.
March 2005 he is notified of a two year window for possible deployment.
May 2005 his retirement is finalized
July 2005 his former unit is deployed.
He didn't ditch anything, unless he had some crazy psychic ability to know 7-9 months before deployment
www.pbs.org
Do the math.
That means October- December 2004 he filed for retirement.
March 2005 he is notified of a two year window for possible deployment.
May 2005 his retirement is finalized
July 2005 his former unit is deployed.
He didn't ditch anything, unless he had some crazy psychic ability to know 7-9 months before deployment
Fact-checking attacks on Walz's military record by Vance and other Republicans
Republican vice presidential nominee and Ohio Sen. JD Vance sought to negatively frame the 24-year military career of Democratic vice presidential candidate Tim Walz, Minnesota’s current governor.
www.pbs.org
If you’re going to respond to me respond to me. Common knowledge that his retirement did not follow normal procedure. Expedited by some friends he had in high places.The Minnesota National Guard told Fox News that Walz's unit was not given deployment orders to Iraq until July 2005 and he had put his retirement papers in five to seven months prior to his retirement in May 2005.
He didn't ditch anything, unless he had some crazy psychic ability to know 7-9 months before deployment
Fact-checking attacks on Walz's military record by Vance and other Republicans
Republican vice presidential nominee and Ohio Sen. JD Vance sought to negatively frame the 24-year military career of Democratic vice presidential candidate Tim Walz, Minnesota’s current governor.
Former member of Gov. Walz's battalion says he 'ditched' them, accuses Walz of 'stolen valor'
Veteran Tom Schilling, who served in the same battalion as Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz, said Gov. Tim Walz "ditched" him and other soldiers before they were deployed to Iraq.www.foxnews.com
Tim Walz called out for ‘going behind’ more senior sergeant’s back with ‘fishy’ retirement request
“It’s very rare [for Walz] not to have gone to the next level, to the non commissioned officer … ,” said John Kolb, a retired colonel who served in Walz’s unit.
nypost.com
Stop picking at it. You’re just making it worse.
LOL, New York Post. I guess you can't link the National Enquirer.
This Thomas Behrends guy is a super-MAGA dude who even his friends are advising to chill the irrational hate.
I wonder what JD Vance circa 2016 would say about Trump's running mate in 2024 politicizing the deaths of 13 Afghanistan service members after Trump politicized their deaths at Arlington National Cemetery?
As a former service member and never Trumper, I'm guessing 2016 Vance would agree with a lot of this article.
Ha...I haven't argued anything that is a matter of fact.
I'm usually in utter amazement that several asshats here see and hear him do crazy shit and react somewhere on the 'f*$k yeah!' to collective shrug scale.
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And add PBS to the list of those to be defunded.
PBS host apologizes for reporting Trump pressed Netanyahu to abandon hostage deal: 'This was a mistake' | Fox News
Netanyahu's office called report a 'complete lie'
Say it with me people. No state sponsored media.
I'd think it'd be reassuring that an official apology was issued. I'm fine with media occasionally issuing retractions and apologies as opposed to doubling down on election fraud lies and being sued for libel.And add PBS to the list of those to be defunded.
PBS host apologizes for reporting Trump pressed Netanyahu to abandon hostage deal: 'This was a mistake' | Fox News
Netanyahu's office called report a 'complete lie'
Say it with me people. No state sponsored media.
It's crazy to me that people trash reputable news sources by linking to articles from a source that lacks actually lacks credibility and accountability like Fox News.
There’s more to it than that. Judy Woodruff when originally asked her source for such a claim, pointed to reporting by Reuters and Axios. When approached, it became apparent that Axios and Reuters had never reported any such thing. Axios mistakenly reported that Trump and Bibi had a call discussing Gaza and the hostages. However, there was never any indication even in Axios reporting as to the details, certainly no claim that Trump was recommending shelving the deal.
It was a full blown fabrication. She’s a fabulist and should be shitcanned.
Fox, a private company that doesn’t take American tax dollars, made their own bed. That’s what they get.
PBS takes our tax dollars and employs fabulists. It’s wholly unacceptable.
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Yeah, and NBC, CNN, and WaPo settled with Nick Sandmann, a teenage kid they defamed after the Lincoln Memorial demonstration.
It’s crazy to me that people think there is any difference between the major networks. They’re all hideously biased in one direction or the other.
