Back in the day yes it took four years like cheaney Now it only seems to hurt guys to stay longer. I hate the nba but they draft on potential. Hope he stays but I dont see it
Thoughts about whether Trace will return next year?
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I think it is if you are loyal, going through the program generally treats you right, you're never going to starve for anything at least in life. I think he's a tweener in the NBA and not very draftable. It's kind of up to him and what he wants out of life or basketball. Let's not pretend his dad isn't Dale, I'm certain he's getting goof advice
I thought trace had a step dad and was not really involved with his real dad.
He has both in his life. Take this down.
The topic isn't a poster's ability to score points in college ball. The issue is TJD's skills and how they translate to the NBA. Woodson said he's ready for the pro game, so he should know, but I think he has limited NBA value because at his size he's got to be able to shoot, everybody has to be able to shoot in the NBA today. Unless he plays great defense, which he didn't against St. Mary's, where/how does he play? He has some very quick moves that look like they translate to the NBA, but he will face bigger, stronger bodies in the NBA.
I see G-league or Europe (probably not a good time to be playing in Europe for obvious reasons).
You might be right, but if I had a buck for every time an IU fan said a player was gone as if their opinion was a fact and the player stays I’d have several thousands of bucks from that. Hell, I’d have many thousands from Cody Zeller coming back alone. I’d also have thousands more from TJD playing the last two years. An opinion is stated like, “I think he’s going to try the NBA.” “He gone,” is stated like it’s a fact. It’s not. It may sound snappy and may even be true in the end, but unless TJD announces and hires an agent, it’s not a fact..
I agree with most here that he is likely gone. I don’t think that he’ll be a first round pick, maybe even not a second. It’s sad but true that if TJD would’ve departed after his freshman year, he would’ve most likely been a late first round pick and signed a two year $6M guaranteed contract.
I’m intrigued by the fact that TJD chose not to participate in Senior Night festivities (unlike Race and Parker). Leaving the door a bit open, maybe?
Serious question, what do you know about IU’s NIL program? I don’t know a thing about it. What players are participating? And how does it compare to other teams in the B1G?
I think he stays or he'd already announced he's going. The St. Mary's game holds no standing for his decision. He can increase his production with his right hand and show he can score from 10-14 ft. if he stays. Who better to teach him than an EX-NBA coach? He's already strong but stronger is a + for future performance. Woodson is the biggest influence on him for this decision.
Can’t be a fact until it is. Still doesn’t change the probability that “He gone”…
He might be gone. Probably more likely than not, but it’s not at all definite. Only TJD knows what he’s really leaning towards.
He’s developed a lot this year. If he stays he could have a great year of school and become his much better self.
As does your input. You are on a message board. You are not an expert nor are your teenage girl infatuations with the players. Looking forward to your food reviews with players and their favorite restaurants, along with who is the funniest on the team.
You are full of yourself and as full of shit as I am. The perennial “guess who I rubbed shoulders with” guy. Nobody takes any of your input as some great insight.
I think he's gone, but that he should stay. We have a good class coming in, including JHS who should make an instant impact. We aren't losing anyone (yet) and will probably get a boost from the transfer portal. If he stays, he will finally play on a contender and have the chance to make a real run and boost his value. The biggest knock on him is that he's not a winner, and next year he will have every opportunity to change that.
No argument. At least at 14' it opens up for slashing wings into the middle.
He's still not ready for the NBA. Still needs outside shot beyond 5'. Never shoots face-up more than 5' out, and still very seldom uses his right hand. A 6' 9" Forward in the NBA needs to be able to shoot, and hit, 10-15 ft jumpers, and needs to be able to shoot, and make, 3 pointers. He needs another year under Woodson, to develop those skills, and to get tougher. He may be a first round pick, because of potential, and may be drawn by the money, but he'll wind up in the Development League. With Bates, Geronimo, the incoming guards, one a 5*, and a 4* 6'8" Forward, and, hopefully, Thompson, Galloway and Leal, IU could be a real contender for the BIG championship, and go much further into the NCAA. Wouldn't it be great to see him actually step out and shoot, and make, 3 pointers? Would be awesome, and open so much more, for the offense. I think all the returning players need to spend the summer shooting 3 pointers and free throws. And Trace needs to stay put and help IU back to elite status. Next year he could be a Lottery pick, for sure, and make the big bucks. Stay put, Trayce!
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The only thing we know for sure is that three scholarship players have to move on for three incoming Freshmen. If only three leave there won’t be any players from the portal coming in. A lot of teams are in this situation due to COVID. I’m sure Coach will be sitting with each player and discussing how the season went for each of them and what is best for each of them. It’ll be interesting to see what happens.
My mistake, I should have been clearer. Can anyone with any actual knowledge share information about IU's NIL program?
Actual knowledge? You are barking up the wrong tree.
Go play with your buddies on GBI, they are still trashing IU instead talking about their own game. You will fit right in.
I’m not totally convinced he’s gone. Both choices have their risks and benefits. He can get drafted late in the second round, get paid, and work to prove himself for a second contract. He can stay at IU, build a huge media hype about the upcoming season, and have a chance to win the B10. It’s not a forgone conclusion. Afterall, he knows that he will never start in the NBA.
Thanks. Thought so but wasn't sure. I suspect step dad will have some input this time as well.
There was talk last year he might transfer to MSU. Perfect college player and just what MSU needs. We have a great NIL opportunity (see Tucker) . He was down to MSU ,UCLA and IU originally
Cody Zeller didn't show his shooting skills in college. TJD may not be ready for the NBA, but he will learn how to be a professional player. He won't learn that with another year in college.
We expect college to give us the skills to be successful in our careers. We learn the first day at our first job that college was the first step and we have a lot to learn. The only way to learn is to get started.
Have you spoken to TJD, or are you the one who got deflated? Not judging. I think most of us got at least a little deflated, but I couldn't imagine trying to speculate how the loss would affect TJD emotionally. The truth is the kid needs to develop a right hand, and a medium range jumper, at the very least, if he has hopes to stick in the NBA. To me, the real question is whether he would be better served in the G league or another season at IU. I think it would be the G League.
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